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jag32 · 3 October 2019, 02:55 PM

Called USAA today to add my 5130R World Time onto my valuable personal property policy and was told that it will put my collection over the threshold ($150k) for requiring a safe and they will not insure me until I obtain a safe and send them photos and the make/model, serial no. of the safe. They also would not provide any recommendations or even tell me what type or level of safe I needed, just that my collection needs to be in a safe for continuation of my policy. So this brings me to my fellow Patek WIS buddies on here who find themselves in a similar position and wanted a recommendation on what you guys use? I don’t want some ugly safe and I really enjoy displaying my collection. Any recommendations on elegant safes would be appreciated!

martinr · 3 October 2019, 03:44 PM

Amsec BF 3416. Not very elegant but it’s a safe. That and an engraved 1911 and your covered.

Pateks · 3 October 2019, 03:47 PM

Liberty gun safe. Don’t own any guns but lots of watches.

d11n · 3 October 2019, 03:56 PM

brown safe

https://www.brownsafe.com/man-safe/index.html

https://www.brownsafe.com/jewelry-safes/index.html

WatchLurv · 3 October 2019, 04:53 PM

My policy said my safe had to be over 150 Kg (330 lbs) for them to cover some sort of home insurance policy against theft/burglary.

Since you live in America, a gun safe would probably be a better option. Those are all well-above 150 kilos.

If you want to go balls-out on a safe, buy a Buben & Zorweg. They do cost an arm and a leg.

Russell996 · 3 October 2019, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jag32

Called USAA today to add my 5130R World Time onto my valuable personal property policy and was told that it will put my collection over the threshold ($150k) for requiring a safe and they will not insure me until I obtain a safe and send them photos and the make/model, serial no. of the safe. They also would not provide any recommendations or even tell me what type or level of safe I needed, just that my collection needs to be in a safe for continuation of my policy. So this brings me to my fellow Patek WIS buddies on here who find themselves in a similar position and wanted a recommendation on what you guys use? I don’t want some ugly safe and I really enjoy displaying my collection. Any recommendations on elegant safes would be appreciated!

I'm amazed they won't tell you the level of safe, my insurance company stipulated the category and the safe company I used had to verify the safe with the insurer before installation.

chunkythebulldog · 3 October 2019, 05:31 PM

First thing you need to speak to your insurers to see what they require.
In England they usually specify a safe with a cash rating value.

eg, cash rating of £10000.00 = contents cover of £100000.00 (multiple of 10 x cash)

I'm no expert on gun safes but I don't think that they have a cash rating value making the purchase pointless and would void your insurance.
Also why would you want to install a gun safe that is designed for a 4 foot long shotgun / rifle etc when you can pick up a safe to suit your needs a quarter of that size.

cascavel · 3 October 2019, 05:44 PM

Casoro.

mongrelnomoad · 3 October 2019, 07:21 PM

As above - the manufacturers will sell you a safe based on the insurance requirements (usually separate cash and contents value). Work from there.

1688 · 3 October 2019, 11:27 PM

Brown safe with ballistic glass and ballistic armor...

Russell996 · 4 October 2019, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Brown safe with ballistic glass and ballistic armor...

Wow!

(and ballistic price?

)

GoingPlaces · 4 October 2019, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1688

Brown safe with ballistic glass and ballistic armor...

Wow again!

1688 · 4 October 2019, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell996

Wow!

(and ballistic price?

)

Price is not as expensive as Buben & Zorweg. Brown safe with all the bells and whistles runs approx $35k including delivery. After market support is awesome...had some issues with the drawers.

KBM · 4 October 2019, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GoingPlaces

Wow again!

Make that three!

Josh1000 · 4 October 2019, 01:00 AM

Basically if they safe is stolen with no watches inside you still weep

Chiboy · 4 October 2019, 01:09 AM

Asking for a friend: Is it overkill to have more invested in the safe than the contents thereof?

Ichiran · 4 October 2019, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Brown safe with ballistic glass and ballistic armor...

Mind asking if the top piece is a 5711/1p Tiffany please?

locutus49 · 4 October 2019, 01:24 AM

USAA acted like I was the first person to ask for insurance for two precious metal Rolexes. I told the lady to check the policies of some of the Generals and get back to me. She finally insured them. We have over 100K in art, which was not a problem. We have about 80K in jewelry.

1688 · 4 October 2019, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ichiran

Mind asking if the top piece is a 5711/1p Tiffany please?

Wow..u have a really good eye! It certainly is...

Ichiran · 4 October 2019, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Wow..u have a really good eye! It certainly is...

Mic drop!
Wowwwwwwwwwwwx

WatchLurv · 4 October 2019, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Wow..u have a really good eye! It certainly is...

Please post it. Side by side with your 5711/1A

1688 · 4 October 2019, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchLurv

Please post it. Side by side with your 5711/1A

Now you know why I need a ballistic safe...

V25V · 4 October 2019, 02:17 AM

Is the T&Co stamp crooked?

Plastique999 · 4 October 2019, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Price is not as expensive as Buben & Zorweg. Brown safe with all the bells and whistles runs approx $35k including delivery. After market support is awesome...had some issues with the drawers.

Is it bolted to the floor?

Sent from my Zeitwerk

1688 · 4 October 2019, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

Is the T&Co stamp crooked?

Not sure why it looks that way but both are perfectly aligned...here’s a close up

1688 · 4 October 2019, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Plastique999

Is it bolted to the floor?

Sent from my Zeitwerk

Had them bolt it to the studs underneath...that is why is is kind of in the middle of the room.

V25V · 4 October 2019, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 1688

Not sure why it looks that way but both are perfectly aligned...here’s a close up

It was a bit of a joke in reference to another thread in here, some will understand.

Mr Naultilus · 4 October 2019, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

Is the T&Co stamp crooked?

1688 · 4 October 2019, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by V25V

It was a bit of a joke in reference to another thread in here, some will understand.

Yes I know...I posted on that thread and said the piece was a 1/1...piece unique. But the first side by side picture on top certainly appears slightly offset and gives an illusion the stamp was not level.

ts3 · 4 October 2019, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ichiran

mic drop!
Wowwwwwwwwwwwx

+1

3 October 2019, 02:55 PM	#1
jag32 Banned Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: DC Watch: PP/AP/BP/UN Posts: 1,015	Elegant safes for Patek and expensive collections Called USAA today to add my 5130R World Time onto my valuable personal property policy and was told that it will put my collection over the threshold ($150k) for requiring a safe and they will not insure me until I obtain a safe and send them photos and the make/model, serial no. of the safe. They also would not provide any recommendations or even tell me what type or level of safe I needed, just that my collection needs to be in a safe for continuation of my policy. So this brings me to my fellow Patek WIS buddies on here who find themselves in a similar position and wanted a recommendation on what you guys use? I don’t want some ugly safe and I really enjoy displaying my collection. Any recommendations on elegant safes would be appreciated!

3 October 2019, 11:27 PM	#10
1688 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Patekville Posts: 175	Brown safe with ballistic glass and ballistic armor... Last edited by cop414; 5 October 2019 at 07:41 AM..

4 October 2019, 01:09 AM	#16
Chiboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona Posts: 5,380	Asking for a friend: Is it overkill to have more invested in the safe than the contents thereof? __________________ Datejust w/black Tapestry dial (1985) / Daytona (2016)

3 October 2019, 03:44 PM	#2
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,099	Amsec BF 3416. Not very elegant but it’s a safe. That and an engraved 1911 and your covered.

3 October 2019, 03:47 PM	#3
Pateks Banned Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: USA Posts: 327	Liberty gun safe. Don’t own any guns but lots of watches.

3 October 2019, 03:56 PM	#4
d11n "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: UTC/GMT -8 hours Watch: yes Posts: 415	brown safe https://www.brownsafe.com/man-safe/index.html https://www.brownsafe.com/jewelry-safes/index.html

3 October 2019, 04:53 PM	#5
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	My policy said my safe had to be over 150 Kg (330 lbs) for them to cover some sort of home insurance policy against theft/burglary. Since you live in America, a gun safe would probably be a better option. Those are all well-above 150 kilos. If you want to go balls-out on a safe, buy a Buben & Zorweg. They do cost an arm and a leg.

3 October 2019, 05:31 PM	#7
chunkythebulldog "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Northern Monkey Posts: 463	First thing you need to speak to your insurers to see what they require. In England they usually specify a safe with a cash rating value. eg, cash rating of £10000.00 = contents cover of £100000.00 (multiple of 10 x cash) I'm no expert on gun safes but I don't think that they have a cash rating value making the purchase pointless and would void your insurance. Also why would you want to install a gun safe that is designed for a 4 foot long shotgun / rifle etc when you can pick up a safe to suit your needs a quarter of that size.

3 October 2019, 05:44 PM	#8
cascavel 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 1,852	Casoro.

3 October 2019, 07:21 PM	#9
mongrelnomoad "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Here and there... Posts: 1,844	As above - the manufacturers will sell you a safe based on the insurance requirements (usually separate cash and contents value). Work from there.

4 October 2019, 01:00 AM	#15
Josh1000 Banned Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 505	Basically if they safe is stolen with no watches inside you still weep

4 October 2019, 01:24 AM	#18
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	USAA acted like I was the first person to ask for insurance for two precious metal Rolexes. I told the lady to check the policies of some of the Generals and get back to me. She finally insured them. We have over 100K in art, which was not a problem. We have about 80K in jewelry.

4 October 2019, 02:17 AM	#23
V25V 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: USA Posts: 4,340	Is the T&Co stamp crooked?

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