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Old 25 November 2021, 09:28 PM   #1
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Deepsea 126660 - Warranty Card confusion

Hello there,

Very new to the forum, so apologies if I'm asking something that has been asked before!

I just acquired a Rolex Deepsea "James Cameron" - 126660, so we are talking about mk2. For what I understand, it has been officially released around mid-2018.

The watch came with its original warranty card. The serial number on the card matches the serial on the watch.
My question is related to the original purchase date handwritten on the card, which shows 2017.

The seller said that it is normal that a Rolex is purchased some time before its release, therefore this is the reason why the warranty card has a purchase date which is preceeding 2018.

Any thoughts on this?


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Old 25 November 2021, 09:36 PM   #2
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Very weird. Are the serial number matching between the bill, card, and rehaut?
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Old 25 November 2021, 09:44 PM   #3
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Weird indeed... the bill matches with the warranty card, but it has been written (printed) by the seller himself, so that wouldn't be really a sign of trust.

I'm in the process of double checking the rehaut to verify the serial matching with what printed on the card.

The seller has a good reputation so this whole thing seems very odd.
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Old 25 November 2021, 09:50 PM   #4
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Congratulations on a great diver watch!! Just bring watch to a RSC and ask to verify watch . Good luck and welcome to forum !!
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Old 25 November 2021, 10:00 PM   #5
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Thanks for the advice. By RSC you mean a Rolex Boutique or it needs to be a specific store/centre?

Other noob question... what happens if I bring it there and it is found out that it's not authentic? :D
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Old 26 November 2021, 01:00 AM   #6
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It’s not normal, regardless what the seller states.

RSC is the official Rolex Service Center owned by Rolex.
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Old 26 November 2021, 01:33 AM   #7
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Just confirming that the warranty card code and the rehaut engraved code are matching 100%

I'll check if I can get some help from an RSC
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Old 26 November 2021, 05:54 AM   #8
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post a pic of the watch and people here will be able to verify it
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Old 26 November 2021, 06:02 AM   #9
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Not normal. Probably some goon at the AD forgot which year it was. A common cognitive error, especially in the month on January each year.
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Old 26 November 2021, 06:45 AM   #10
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Not normal. Probably some goon at the AD forgot which year it was. A common cognitive error, especially in the month on January each year.
And thus why one shouldn’t leave its home without a proper QP watch.
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Old 26 November 2021, 07:18 AM   #11
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A few bad quality pics of the watch here

Will add more as soon as I can.

If there is a specific side or particular that you need to see, let me know and I will share.
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Old 26 November 2021, 12:03 PM   #12
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Hello there,

Very new to the forum, so apologies if I'm asking something that has been asked before!

I just acquired a Rolex Deepsea "James Cameron" - 126660, so we are talking about mk2. For what I understand, it has been officially released around mid-2018.

The watch came with its original warranty card. The serial number on the card matches the serial on the watch.
My question is related to the original purchase date handwritten on the card, which shows 2017.

The seller said that it is normal that a Rolex is purchased some time before its release, therefore this is the reason why the warranty card has a purchase date which is preceeding 2018.

Any thoughts on this?


Thanks!
Forget the garbage the seller in spinning you.

It looks like the watch was originally bought grey with an incompletely filled out warranty card and for some reason(whatever that may be) the dodgy date was subsequently written on it.

Don't worry about it too much unless you are having some anxiety around the validity of the warranty and expiry date.
Once it's out of warranty, throw the card in the bin or hang onto it a while longer in case Rolex may decide on granting a bit of good will in the event something goes wrong with the watch

Congratulations on your watch and enjoy it to the full
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Old 26 November 2021, 03:34 PM   #13
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Just confirming that the warranty card code and the rehaut engraved code are matching 100%

I'll check if I can get some help from an RSC

This man nothing. O would send the watch to an RSC center.


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Old 26 November 2021, 03:36 PM   #14
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Thanks for the advice. By RSC you mean a Rolex Boutique or it needs to be a specific store/centre?

Other noob question... what happens if I bring it there and it is found out that it's not authentic? :D

If they find out it’s not authentic you confront the seller with the fact and get your money back


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Old 26 November 2021, 05:48 PM   #15
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Forget the garbage the seller in spinning you.

It looks like the watch was originally bought grey with an incompletely filled out warranty card and for some reason(whatever that may be) the dodgy date was subsequently written on it.

Don't worry about it too much unless you are having some anxiety around the validity of the warranty and expiry date.
Once it's out of warranty, throw the card in the bin or hang onto it a while longer in case Rolex may decide on granting a bit of good will in the event something goes wrong with the watch

Congratulations on your watch and enjoy it to the full

Yes, I thought about this possibility because the warranty card - which also seems original) has all the matching printed details. It displays the AD's name (a store in Bahrain), but no customer name. This corroborates the grey market theory. The purchase date is handwritten, so it could have been added randomly at later stage.

I don't mind about the warranty at this point. The watch is pretty much in almost mint condition. The idea is to keep it long term and service it in 2025-2028 (if I will still be alive).

As someone else is stating, in case something goes wrong, I may be able to challenge the seller. The seller has a very reputable store on Chrono24 (thousands of reviews) and they released their own certificate of authenticity. I would believe that if at any point this is found to be untrue, they should be liable. I'll clarify this with the seller anyways.
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Old 26 November 2021, 08:30 PM   #16
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As someone else is stating, in case something goes wrong, I may be able to challenge the seller. The seller has a very reputable store on Chrono24 (thousands of reviews) and they released their own certificate of authenticity. I would believe that if at any point this is found to be untrue, they should be liable. I'll clarify this with the seller anyways.
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Don't believe anything. Reviews can be bought, certificates are meaningless unless made by actual certifications agencies (COTECNA, SGS) or official companies (RSC).
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Old 26 November 2021, 08:33 PM   #17
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Have the watch checked and ask him to give you a new price "without papers"
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Old 26 November 2021, 08:59 PM   #18
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Have the watch checked and ask him to give you a new price "without papers"
This is a good point, the papers supplied are essentially worthless so the price should be reviewed (downwards).

For what I understand, the only way to ensure that the watch is genuine, would be to have it serviced by Rolex at this point.
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Old 26 November 2021, 09:51 PM   #19
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Doesn't make sense.
As you stated, the revised 126660 was introduced in 2018. There shouldn't be any with a 2017 warranty card.
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Old 26 November 2021, 10:08 PM   #20
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Rolex had Green Tags in 17
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Old 26 November 2021, 10:25 PM   #21
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Rolex had Green Tags in 17
Yep, good catch... Green tag from 2015 onwards. I suspect that it has just been added to the watch so the seller could say that it is a full package
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Old 26 November 2021, 10:32 PM   #22
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Buying a watch, an expensive watch, with a 'story' is never a good idea.

Your call of course, but I'd be looking elsewhere. There are plenty for sale in the UK and Europe.

For example, I have no affiliation with this dealer, but I've bought from them before, their watches are always 'correct'.

https://www.watches.co.uk/watches/ro...s/sea-dweller/

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.



[EDIT] Oh, I see you've already bought it. As you were, then.
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Old 26 November 2021, 11:18 PM   #23
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Buying a watch, an expensive watch, with a 'story' is never a good idea.

Your call of course, but I'd be looking elsewhere. There are plenty for sale in the UK and Europe.

For example, I have no affiliation with this dealer, but I've bought from them before, their watches are always 'correct'.

https://www.watches.co.uk/watches/ro...s/sea-dweller/

Good luck, whatever you decide to do.



[EDIT] Oh, I see you've already bought it. As you were, then.

Yes, already bought it but still within the 14 days period during which I can return it to the seller.


Anyways, more pictures added here


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Good luck OP. I’d want clarity from RSC at this stage
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Old 26 November 2021, 11:39 PM   #25
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Hi I’d think about returning it, a few things don’t stack up there are lots of others out there. No green tag papers incorrect and seller stating that it’s normal to have a date before they were released??? I’d walk away and get your money back
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Can you post some photos of the card. ? Without showing the serial number
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Old 27 November 2021, 12:12 AM   #27
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Can you post some photos of the card. ? Without showing the serial number

Thanks for reading my post Danny!

I've just added 2 pictures showing front/back of the warranty card. You can find them here.

I've also obscured the original shop's name, which does exist.
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Old 27 November 2021, 12:14 AM   #28
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I suspect the warranty card will have been left blank maybe and then someone with out production dates knowledge has written a date relevant to them as the purchase date.
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Yes, already bought it but still within the 14 days period during which I can return it to the seller.



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Hi I’d think about returning it, a few things don’t stack up there are lots of others out there. No green tag papers incorrect and seller stating that it’s normal to have a date before they were released??? I’d walk away and get your money back
This ^ is what I'd do.

But, as always, your choice.

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I suspect the warranty card will have been left blank maybe and then someone with out production dates knowledge has written a date relevant to them as the purchase date.
This. I once bought a watch that had a 2010 date written on the card but the watch wasn’t released until 2014. Rolex confirmed the true date of sale by looking up the serial number (ended up being 2016).
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