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Old 25 October 2020, 08:57 AM   #1
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Would you buy a backup?

For me as a collector, I see these timepieces as wearable kinetic sculptures. It's a wonderful thing to have a particular piece on the wrist and enjoy it 'on the go'. Would anyone here ever buy a 'back up' piece? One to wear with abandon, and one to appreciate in it's perfect unworn state?
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Old 25 October 2020, 09:03 AM   #2
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If only we have crystal ball to know what’s going to happen in the future!
Which model will appreciate or keep the current hype would be largely based on speculation

I don’t do backup models but would understand why someone might
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Old 25 October 2020, 09:15 AM   #3
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I get what you’re saying. And i have done it with other things other than watches. If I loved the watch that much and I could afford to then I would. It’s a strange sort of obsessive compulsive obsession that I don’t think many will understand lol but I totally get you
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Old 25 October 2020, 11:10 AM   #4
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Good luck with that if you want the 5711...impossible to get ONE...let alone TWO! Will be a miracle if your AD decides to sell two to you. Maybe by the time you get the second one, it will be your grandchildren buying it..

So no point except to wear what you have and enjoy!!
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Old 25 October 2020, 06:03 PM   #5
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Never, don’t even understand the concept I’m afraid.
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Old 25 October 2020, 07:24 PM   #6
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I would have used the money to buy another watch to wear. This way I will have 2 watches and double the fun.
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Old 25 October 2020, 08:03 PM   #7
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The motto of collectables is: you actually buy 3. One to wear, one to put away and one to sell.
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Old 25 October 2020, 08:21 PM   #8
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Never, don’t even understand the concept I’m afraid.
Agree with this, I wear my watches and they are not supposed to be safe queens
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Old 25 October 2020, 09:35 PM   #9
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Would you buy a backup?

I get what you’re saying. Not going to lie the thought has crossed my mind. But I haven’t actually done it. I wear everything I own and ultimately I’ve come to peace with the fact that they won’t be perfect but they will be loved.


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Old 25 October 2020, 09:37 PM   #10
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Old 25 October 2020, 09:38 PM   #11
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Never, don’t even understand the concept I’m afraid.
Same here. As the second one is clearly an investment in this case and there are millions of other better places to put your money for investment.
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Old 25 October 2020, 09:55 PM   #12
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Would anyone here ever buy a 'back up' piece? One to wear with abandon, and one to appreciate in it's perfect unworn state?
Not on mass-produced pieces like the PP. Maybe not wear a truly historic / museum piece, yet that's about it imho. All other PPs should be worn as they are not rare / important or anything like that. Though yes, you may want to have a nice backup to wear when your PP is in service for months and months. That's why there's Rolex, F.P. Journe, Panerai, OMEGA, Cartier... and even Bvlgari is giving PP a run for their money at 1/3rd the price.
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Old 25 October 2020, 11:46 PM   #13
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No, when I started in this hobby I heard of people buying and wearing fakes so the real ones sat safely in a safe at home, not sure I ever found many people actually doing this.
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Old 26 October 2020, 12:09 AM   #14
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No, when I started in this hobby I heard of people buying and wearing fakes so the real ones sat safely in a safe at home, not sure I ever found many people actually doing this.
At one point my father in law did this. There was a spate of thefts. So he wore a replica when he took the train to the mall. And left the genuine one at home.

But the replicas he bought are so bad. Not even close
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Old 26 October 2020, 12:49 AM   #15
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I try to do this as often as I can. I buy at multiple AD, so I often get pieces I really like twice. One I wear, one goes into the safe.
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Old 26 October 2020, 12:54 AM   #16
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As a watch guy it’s kind of odd but as a collector it’s quite normal. Whatever makes you happy.
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Old 26 October 2020, 02:57 AM   #17
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Old 26 October 2020, 03:22 AM   #18
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I get what you’re saying. And i have done it with other things other than watches. If I loved the watch that much and I could afford to then I would. It’s a strange sort of obsessive compulsive obsession that I don’t think many will understand lol but I totally get you
Agreed. I think it takes any stress away from seeing it dinged, scratched etc, knowing you have a pristine one
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Old 26 October 2020, 03:54 AM   #19
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I try to do this as often as I can. I buy at multiple AD, so I often get pieces I really like twice. One I wear, one goes into the safe.
Not in the UK, they monitor multiple AD applications to stop this unless you are buying from window stock - which they absolutely should do to stop multiple purchases of the same piece and thereby preventing others having the chance to own popular pieces.
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:04 AM   #20
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So you risk getting mugged for a fake watch. If one has concern (and I do appreciate and understand. that) wear a real cheaper brand watch rather than a fake... Now I have heard of folks keeping a watch winder with a fake in plain site in case of home burglary.

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At one point my father in law did this. There was a spate of thefts. So he wore a replica when he took the train to the mall. And left the genuine one at home.

But the replicas he bought are so bad. Not even close
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:16 AM   #21
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So you risk getting mugged for a fake watch. If one has concern (and I do appreciate and understand. that) wear a real cheaper brand watch rather than a fake... Now I have heard of folks keeping a watch winder with a fake in plain site in case of home burglary.
I thought people used to do this all the time before. They would own a watch or jewelry and put them away for safe keeping. Then out in public they would use a fake. Knowing that they had the real one at home justified that they could wear the fake because when asked, they had the real deal.
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:46 AM   #22
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Life is short. Unless museums are calling you about purchasing your collection it should be your goal to use, abuse, and enjoy them.
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:54 AM   #23
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Not in the UK, they monitor multiple AD applications to stop this unless you are buying from window stock - which they absolutely should do to stop multiple purchases of the same piece and thereby preventing others having the chance to own popular pieces.
Was told the same by Wempe in Germany.
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Old 26 October 2020, 11:46 AM   #24
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Not in the UK, they monitor multiple AD applications to stop this unless you are buying from window stock - which they absolutely should do to stop multiple purchases of the same piece and thereby preventing others having the chance to own popular pieces.
How this could happen? Pieces such as 5711, 5712, 5990 etc are not application pieces and Patek UK doesn't know who is on the AD list and one person can put his name down with several ADs

I can understand they can monitor application pieces like 5231J but not all the popular pieces.
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:22 PM   #25
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How this could happen? Pieces such as 5711, 5712, 5990 etc are not application pieces and Patek UK doesn't know who is on the AD list and one person can put his name down with several ADs

I can understand they can monitor application pieces like 5231J but not all the popular pieces.
Orders to Rhone are centrally controlled and it is the popular pieces in particular such as 5711/12 etc where they wish to stop multiple purchases from different AD’s by the same person. They are not infallible but they are trying.
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Old 26 October 2020, 04:28 PM   #26
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Orders to Rhone are centrally controlled and it is the popular pieces in particular such as 5711/12 etc where they wish to stop multiple purchases from different AD’s by the same person. They are not infallible but they are trying.
Thanks, does it mean ADs need to submit the names of the clients on the list for pieces such as 5711/5712?
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Old 27 October 2020, 02:31 AM   #27
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I brought this up more of a curiosity- for me, the only watch I'd 'back up' is the 5968A! That is probably my favorite in the entire PP line up.
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Old 27 October 2020, 02:54 AM   #28
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It’s hard enough to buy one of these ss pieces (Scarcity), hard to fathom 2
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Old 27 October 2020, 04:26 AM   #29
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Thanks, does it mean ADs need to submit the names of the clients on the list for pieces such as 5711/5712?
It's different for the US vs Europe. Don't beleive we deal with Rhone. There are no checks and balances like this for the US that I know of.
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Old 27 October 2020, 04:48 AM   #30
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I'm pretty OCD, so I will admit to either A) using a different color dial as the backup, e.g. white/black daytona, or B) if the watch is uber expensive, I'll have 'backup' bracelets that really just stay in the safe to scratch the mental itch knowing the condition is perfect and continue to wear the watch with abandon without ever really using that backup bracelet.
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