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10 June 2019, 06:03 AM | #1 |
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Rolex 16570 engraved rehaut movemet
Want to share my experience with my current Rolex Explorer II. I bought this watch 7 months ago. I bought it without performing any tests such as “crown test” / “wiggle test”. I trusted the engraved rehaut and the dealer instead (who btw was a really reputable dealer). After a few months of purchase I was changing hours and noticed that GMT hand wiggles and crown doesn’t as stable as my old Explorer’s. So, both tests failed But I was like “no way, it cannot be true”... Months passed but that thought about 2 failed tests couldn’t leave my mind. So, I went to a watchmaker so that he could open the case and make my worries go away. And... We have 3185 not 3186 inside.. I then called the Dealer and he was like: Yes, it had 3185 inside not 3186 I told you that. So he gave me few hundreds back.. Thank God I bought it at a relatively good price. Also, as we all know, Explorers tend to go only upwards in their value, so at least did not lose so much money on this purchase.
I googled about 3186 Calibers in 16710 and most of them started with Z9 serials. My only concern now is that if my Explorer originally came with 3185 or 3186 as i seen 16570 w/ 3186 without engraved rehaut and have read that dealers swap the movements from 16570 to 16710 in order to make more $. Any opinion on this?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
10 June 2019, 07:02 AM | #2 |
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I've never heard of this, but could absolutely see it happening. I do know engraved rehaut doesn't automatically mean 3186. What serial is your explorer?
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10 June 2019, 07:31 AM | #3 |
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The easiest way to find out if it’s a 3186 is the crown test if a full rotation is 8 or 9 hours 3186 5 or 6 3185
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10 June 2019, 08:11 AM | #4 |
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Please explain the crown and wiggle tests
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10 June 2019, 08:37 AM | #5 |
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Most G, V and M serial 16570s have engraved rehauts but that definitely doesn't mean they have a 3186 in them. I believe the switch was made between M serials so a mix of these with engraved rehauts have both 3185 or 3186.
I also do not believe that a grey seller would source down a spare 3185 to fit in a 3186 16570 in order to make a few bucks, doesn't sound profitable to me factoring in labour and sourcing costs. If your 16570 has a 3185 in it then it most likely had it when Rolex assembled it. |
10 June 2019, 09:22 AM | #6 |
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"Crown Test" is seeing how many hours are jumped in one full rotation of the crown. 3186 should jump 8 hours while the 3185 should jump 6. It's a simple and effective way to see which movement is in the watch without opening it up.
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10 June 2019, 02:24 PM | #7 |
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When I was shopping around, I came across a polar with engraved rehaut...the dealer said it had a 3186, but it failed the wiggle test. Sure enough, my watchmaker opened the case back and confirmed it was a 3185.
A couple weeks later, I found another polar that was a Z serial without an engraved rehaut....with a 3186. There is no rhyme or reason when it comes to which serial has the movement, it I do believe it made its first appearance in the Z serial.
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10 June 2019, 11:18 PM | #8 | |
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11 June 2019, 12:32 AM | #9 |
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My Z serial in the Z6XXXXXX has the 3186. there really is no rhyme or reason to this.
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11 June 2019, 02:14 AM | #10 |
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What is the crown wiggle test?
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