5980 or 5990

[watchucallit]

i vote for the 5990. There are two complications that do not come together too often in high pieces. These are two complications I actually use. I travel a fair bit. The nice thing about the 5990 is that when traveling it does not stand out and less likely to be a theft target. In addition, when i travel sometimes i do like to time specific events -- e.g. specific travel times etc. I also like the symmetry of the two sub dials. I have a 5712 and 5164 and seriously thought about trading in to get a 5990 but will likely not do that at this point.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by HL65

By the way as a follow up to my post and yours. I don't think as an owner of a 5980r it is a this one or that one scenario. I considered adding a 5980 to my 5980r and decided against it. One can easily add the 5990 to the 5980r and have to compatible yet different watches. If I owned a 5980/1a I would not consider it as they would be somewhat redundant. If I didn't own a 5980/1a and was looking to add a Nautilus I would certainly consider this if I was wanting a steel watch. I will say like most new watches people are unsure of they do have a tendency to grow on us over time. I also think seeing them in person and handling them can change initial reactions.

Originally Posted by lapince

Seeing this old post and your new comments since owning the 5990 I feel you have changed your mind

Oh and I was right it did grow on me and once saw in person it was love at first sight! So I was way wrong at first an the lesson is wait till you see in person before making judgement...Lesson learned!

[autohorology]

Love it love it love it. Gorgeous reference. Love the overall look of the case and dial.

Originally Posted by HL65

Oh and I was right it did grow on me and once saw in person it was love at first sight! So I was way wrong at first an the lesson is wait till you see in person before making judgement...Lesson learned!

[HL65]

Originally Posted by autohorology

Love it love it love it. Gorgeous reference. Love the overall look of the case and dial.

[JorgeCCW]

Not completely convinced on either, like the heft of the 5980 not to keen of the "punch hole protector" look. Love the complications of the 5990, but I have to admit is a little cluttered.
Just glad that I don't have to decide which one

[scrappy]

I checked the Patek 2014 catalog book and it shows the 5990 as being slightly thicker (0.3mm?) than the 5980. Just an FYI in case anyone else was also wondering about it.....

[BNA/LION]

The 5980 is very sharp!

[kb24]

5980 for me

[toomuchtalk]

Thought you had the 5990 Ken?

[HL65]

Originally Posted by toomuchtalk

Thought you had the 5990 Ken?

Look above!

[RussW]

Would be interesting to do the poll again and see what happens. I think the 5990 might win.

[JorgeCCW]

Originally Posted by RussW

Would be interesting to do the poll again and see what happens. I think the 5990 might win.

I think you might be right.....

[Time Exposure]

Originally Posted by Time Exposure

The 5990 has plenty of hands/indicators...you could set them to point to all the scratches you'll have in a month!
Bitter, sorry. Nautilus 5980 was my dream, 3710 was my reality, scratches were my nemesis...distracted by Calatrava. Done with Nautilus for now.

A dream never dies...


I have yet to hold a 5990, but I already formed my opinion. I don't dislike the 5990, I just prefer the 5980 and it's date window and single sub dial. A GMT function is something I never wanted (going back to my early Rolex days). But I do prefer the placement of the chrono pushers on the 5990.
Like most Patek this-or-that comparos, no wrong way to go here!

[subtona]

Originally Posted by RussW

Would be interesting to do the poll again and see what happens. I think the 5990 might win.

What's not to love about the 5990, It's all the 5980 is and more.
But Patek Blue dial is lovely and not available on 5990.

[JorgeCCW]

How about a 5990R ......

[watchucallit]

I remember when the first PP 5990 announcement was released. There were so many negative posts. The usual issues related to crowded dial and price-- all valid were made by quite a few. However the one issue that seems to have been lost is the fact that the chronograph was limited to 60 minutes. In my opinion, this is not a big deal because when i do use a chronograph it is rarely for more than an hour. Also easy to keep track of hours. Anyway-- it just seems like there are a lot of more folks who have come around on this piece. Perhaps ascertainment bias because most in this forum are fans of PP in one way or another.

[unknown]

reading the last posts ….

Like I said before



ALWAYS
Always when a new model is introduced people will prefer the old model and definitely the people who own an old piece will prefer their own piece
If you made such a poll when the 116610 replaced the 16610 people voted for the 16610, when after a few years more and more people own the new piece the new model will win such a poll.
Same with the daytona 16520 and 116520
I would take the 5990 in a heartbeat and I am 100% sure if you make this poll once again in 2016, the result will be exactly the opposite
It is very are when the discontinued watch wins such a poll after a few years




it even doesn't take a few years in this case LOL

[watchucallit]

I think folks try to rationalize why the new model is not so great--- so they won't fork out bucks for the new model.

[subtona]

Originally Posted by unknown

reading the last posts ….

Like I said before



ALWAYS
Always when a new model is introduced people will prefer the old model and definitely the people who own an old piece will prefer their own piece
If you made such a poll when the 116610 replaced the 16610 people voted for the 16610, when after a few years more and more people own the new piece the new model will win such a poll.
Same with the daytona 16520 and 116520
I would take the 5990 in a heartbeat and I am 100% sure if you make this poll once again in 2016, the result will be exactly the opposite
It is very are when the discontinued watch wins such a poll after a few years




it even doesn't take a few years in this case LOL

Astute observation

[JorgeCCW]

there is always some fear to jump 1st with new references because you don't know how that watch is gonna pan out. Once the watch is establish then the poll is more trustworthy.
Rationally the 5990 should be ahead.

[yjfang]

I prefer the 5980 and as such purchased one recently. Reasons being:

1. Cleaner dial. Love the classic blackish blue-ish green dial.
2. Shape of pushers more consistent with the angles and shape of the Nautilus.
3. I don't care for GMT style of function on Patek's. Seems too technical.
4. Prefer digital date for sports watch.

I do like the thinner bezel on the 5990. It is a fantastic watch but just not for me.

[Copasetic]

Start a new thread or continue this one?

[jenniferjanef]

Originally Posted by Copasetic

Start a new thread or continue this one?

Start a new thread

[RussW]

Originally Posted by jenniferjanef

Start a new thread

Agreed. My opinion on the 5990 has evolved since I first posted this. I guess others may have too.

[thurgood]

The 5990 has a cluttered dial, the bullseye dial is way nicer aesthetically

[AK797]

I'd still pick the 5980, clearer dial and blue to boot.

[JJ WA]

Originally Posted by unknown

ALWAYS

I am 100% sure if you make this poll once again in 2016, the result will be exactly the opposite

Wonder if 5990 continues to lag behind in comparison against 5980

[RussW]

Originally Posted by JJ WA

Wonder if 5990 continues to lag behind in comparison against 5980

In this updated poll from November 2015 the 5980 was still more popular.

http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=5990

My feeling is the 5980 is still more popular today.

[ufboy73]

so, i happened to be doing some research on the 5990 and i found some of the comments on here relating to changing opinions over time interesting.

i am curious, do folks still prefer the 5980? how has the 5990 'aged' in peoples minds?

[Watch Admirer]

5990 for me. Love the modern vibe the new PPs are giving