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Old 29 October 2014, 11:55 PM   #91
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Not even close Jorge. There is a long wait for one of these here and used selling for mid $70's not $60K. In fact find me one for $60k today used and I will gladly buy it guaranteed! I know grey dealers who would for a fact gladly pay $70K for used complete one as well. This is a hard watch to source from AD make no mistake about that.
Agree with this statement. I tried sourcing one in the states. Hard to find nd when I found one best for BNIB was 80-85k.
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Old 29 October 2014, 11:58 PM   #92
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THat 5990 with the Blue Dial of the 5980/1AR = INSTANT WINNER!

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Old 30 October 2014, 12:01 AM   #93
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THat 5990 with the Blue Dial of the 5980/1AR = INSTANT WINNER!



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That would be an awesome watch !
Don't want think the Retail for that one !!!


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Old 30 October 2014, 01:30 AM   #94
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THat 5990 with the Blue Dial of the 5980/1AR = INSTANT WINNER!

Ken - Email Patek ;)
Haha they won't listen to me!

For me glad it is dark grey dial as I have the 5711 blue so wanted different color!
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Old 30 October 2014, 03:59 AM   #95
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ahh all this discussion is making me waver/slight buyers remose on whether i should flip the newly acquired 5711 for a 5712....
some good points to switch are its only a few thousand more for quite a bit of complications, but none of the complications are actually useful to me except maybe the PR.. date seems actually harder to read than the window display on the 5711 and i'm not a total fan of the asymmetric layout.... however i feel like i should get a patek with complications...
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Old 30 October 2014, 04:17 AM   #96
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ahh all this discussion is making me waver/slight buyers remose on whether i should flip the newly acquired 5711 for a 5712....

some good points to switch are its only a few thousand more for quite a bit of complications, but none of the complications are actually useful to me except maybe the PR.. date seems actually harder to read than the window display on the 5711 and i'm not a total fan of the asymmetric layout.... however i feel like i should get a patek with complications...

Get an AC , it should give you the content feeling you are looking for

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Old 30 October 2014, 04:47 AM   #97
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i'm sorry but what is AC?
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Old 30 October 2014, 04:57 AM   #98
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i'm sorry but what is AC?

Annual calendar
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Old 30 October 2014, 05:19 AM   #99
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Annual calendar

Reference 5726. Better balanced dial, date in a window (with month and day in separate windows), center sweep seconds, 24-hour (AM/PM) dial surrounding the moonphase, no power reserve indicator (which isn't really necessary on a watch with a 45-hour power reserve, is it?)
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Old 30 October 2014, 05:24 AM   #100
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Old 30 October 2014, 05:31 AM   #101
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Reference 5726. Better balanced dial, date in a window (with month and day in separate windows), center sweep seconds, 24-hour (AM/PM) dial surrounding the moonphase, no power reserve indicator (which isn't really necessary on a watch with a 45-hour power reserve, is it?)
looks awesome and perfectly fits my bill. but from my search, looks like the grey dial face doesn't seem to come on a ss bracelet?
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Old 30 October 2014, 05:37 AM   #102
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Yes Annual Calendar. Keep your 5711 and get an annual calendar. Perfect pair: 5711 + 5205r white or black dial ( whatever is your preference






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Old 30 October 2014, 06:03 AM   #103
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Old 30 October 2014, 06:38 AM   #104
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You're absolutely right Jorge
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Nice 5146
I had that watch before in the slate grey dial, that color of your 5146 is very different, I like it
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Old 30 October 2014, 07:38 AM   #106
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Even more than 5980R Ken????
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Old 30 October 2014, 07:44 AM   #107
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looks awesome and perfectly fits my bill. but from my search, looks like the grey dial face doesn't seem to come on a ss bracelet?

The website disagrees...
I would post a pic, but this Crapatalk app has different ideas...
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Even more than 5980R Ken????
Favorite SS one! I think overall I could end up liking more as time goes by!
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Old 30 October 2014, 07:56 AM   #109
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The website disagrees...
I would post a pic, but this Crapatalk app has different ideas...
ah i know... they each have their appeal which is why this decision is so much harder!
i've temporarily decided to try on both the 5712 and 5726 at a store after thanksgiving and reevaluate then what is it that i truly want.... hopefully the resale on the 5711 isn't entirely terrible for a 1 month old piece...

a part of me just feels 'cheated' for getting a patek without any complications
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Old 30 October 2014, 08:12 AM   #110
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Favorite SS one! I think overall I could end up liking more as time goes by!
Agree....
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Old 30 October 2014, 08:38 AM   #111
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ahh all this discussion is making me waver/slight buyers remose on whether i should flip the newly acquired 5711 for a 5712....
some good points to switch are its only a few thousand more for quite a bit of complications, but none of the complications are actually useful to me except maybe the PR.. date seems actually harder to read than the window display on the 5711 and i'm not a total fan of the asymmetric layout.... however i feel like i should get a patek with complications...
I don't think it's buyers remorse you are feeling, but the highly addictive patek factor!!! You've just bought a 5711 and realised it might not be the end you thought it was and are wanting more. I'd keep the 5711 as its a fantastic watch and start saving as it won't end with a 5712 either
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Old 30 October 2014, 12:15 PM   #112
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I don't think it's buyers remorse you are feeling, but the highly addictive patek factor!!! You've just bought a 5711 and realised it might not be the end you thought it was and are wanting more. I'd keep the 5711 as its a fantastic watch and start saving as it won't end with a 5712 either
i figured that's another option lol... keep the blue 5711 and get a white 5726 years down the line for that symmetric moon :D
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Old 30 October 2014, 01:34 PM   #113
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I dont think a "why" is necessary on that piece.


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Old 31 October 2014, 01:56 AM   #114
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Nice 5146
I had that watch before in the slate grey dial, that color of your 5146 is very different, I like it
George, not 5146. 5450P Advanced R limited in salmon dial.
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Old 31 October 2014, 01:59 AM   #115
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George, not 5146. 5450P Advanced R limited in salmon dial.

Oh crap ! I wish I would of own that instead.
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Old 31 October 2014, 12:05 PM   #116
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ah i know... they each have their appeal which is why this decision is so much harder!
i've temporarily decided to try on both the 5712 and 5726 at a store after thanksgiving and reevaluate then what is it that i truly want.... hopefully the resale on the 5711 isn't entirely terrible for a 1 month old piece...

a part of me just feels 'cheated' for getting a patek without any complications
In Europe used 5711's especially almost new, sell either for or over retail, probably because of the 6-12 months waiting period, the 5711 is great, especially what I like is the date window, sometimes the 5712 date isn't easy to read and the central sweep second hand, but I really felt that if only 1 Patek, don't plan getting a second, I had to have some kind of complication, even if the moon phase and PR are not the most useful in the world. Really like the 5726 but as I understood the bracelet comes in white dial, which does nothing to me, if it was grey dial and bracelet then it would be another story... Anyways I would keep the 5711 and buy something else later.
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Old 31 October 2014, 12:16 PM   #117
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Here it is my favorite Nautilus. I had to sell the 5712 to fund the 5980 plus selling one of my kidneys. Just a really great piece. Has the girth that I want that the 5712 was lacking.
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Old 31 October 2014, 12:20 PM   #118
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Here it is my favorite Nautilus. I had to sell the 5712 to fund the 5980 plus selling one of my kidneys. Just a really great piece. Has the girth that I want that the 5712 was lacking.
Yeah, that is beautiful.
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Old 31 October 2014, 01:04 PM   #119
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In Europe used 5711's especially almost new, sell either for or over retail, probably because of the 6-12 months waiting period, the 5711 is great, especially what I like is the date window, sometimes the 5712 date isn't easy to read and the central sweep second hand, but I really felt that if only 1 Patek, don't plan getting a second, I had to have some kind of complication, even if the moon phase and PR are not the most useful in the world. Really like the 5726 but as I understood the bracelet comes in white dial, which does nothing to me, if it was grey dial and bracelet then it would be another story... Anyways I would keep the 5711 and buy something else later.
the 5726 gray dial does have a bracelet version, it is just much more expensive than the black leather... like about 5k usd more!
and yes! i think that is actually what i am going to do. keep the 5711 and save money to also buy a 5726 in the future :) kinda just wish i would've gone and gotten those in reverse order though lol since it probably won't be for a while until i can get the 5726 and a more busy dial is probably more suitable for a younger age than a clean simple dial
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the 5726 gray dial does have a bracelet version, it is just much more expensive than the black leather... like about 5k usd more!
and yes! i think that is actually what i am going to do. keep the 5711 and save money to also buy a 5726 in the future :) kinda just wish i would've gone and gotten those in reverse order though lol since it probably won't be for a while until i can get the 5726 and a more busy dial is probably more suitable for a younger age than a clean simple dial
Even for a 5K difference I would still get the bracelet version, on strap it's nice but the bracelet for me goes better on a Nautilus if it's SS
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