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lapince · 17 July 2016, 02:27 PM

Hi guys.

Ok don't throw eggs at me yet, just try to imagine it

Like some of you know, I am getting back a 5712 in the collection, will get it on the 3rd of August.

Some of you already know I love the watch, only flipped my previous one for a very interesting investment, could have flipped the AP ce diver but as the serial number is 005 and the age I had when I got it, decided I would want to keep it because of this, yeah I know maybe stupid, and knew I would get back one day or another a 5712.

So I am getting it, and some will cry heresy, but even if I love the watch I always preferred non PCL bracelets, there is no way I will sell this one, do you think asking a pro to brush out the PCL's is crazy or do you think it could be a good idea?

It would look great IMO, and also would make it look different, of course some people who see it and know watches would think it's a fake but that is not a problem I wouldn't care one bit.

I have no idea wether I would want to do it or not, probably won't, brushing PCL's on a Rolex is fine, love to see when people brushed out there's, but on a 30K+ watch it might be wiser to leave it alone, would just like your opinion and thoughts on the matter.

Thanks in advance for your time and comments

Jareddad · 17 July 2016, 02:31 PM

You can do whatever you want with your watch. But personally, I would leave it original and classic.

daytonaTBR · 17 July 2016, 03:16 PM

I think the original polished center links provide a beautiful contrast to the watch and wouldn't have it any other way.

incontrol · 17 July 2016, 05:11 PM

I think it is a bad idea to mess with your Nautilus that way. Maybe, when it is serviced, ask if HSA can brush the center links for you.

lapince · 17 July 2016, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by incontrol

I think it is a bad idea to mess with your Nautilus that way. Maybe, when it is serviced, ask if HSA can brush the center links for you.

Oh don't worry, don't intend to do it, just a thought, and like you say IF EVER I do it, it would clearly be at a service at some point along with a light polishing, since I am not a polishing freak it would not be before 10 years.
No sure Patek would agree doing it though.
I do like how they look but I think it would look even better if the bracelet was totally brushed, much prefer brushed PCL Rolex to original, don't see why it would be different with PP, but like I said doing this on a 10K watch is one thing, a 30K one is another, and of course you don't find pics of PP's on which this was done...

Passionata · 17 July 2016, 07:40 PM

No ,I wouldn t do it actually i like the PCL on my other watches(Daytona ,jubilee)too.

AK797 · 17 July 2016, 10:38 PM

No I wouldn't do it mate, I certainly would not ever on a 5711, maybe more chance on a 12 as the dial is more interesting but still no. I would just wear the AP whenever you need to protect the PP.

HL65 · 17 July 2016, 10:45 PM

Fist off I didn't realize you were getting a 5712 again so this is the first time I have heard that so congrats. Secondly NO that would look awful.

GB-man · 18 July 2016, 01:35 AM

No no no. I advocate brushing oysters because there is historical presidence for brushed rolex bracelets. Doing it to a nautilus would be fugly imo. Also bracelet would be too fragile for that imo.

GarageBMW · 18 July 2016, 02:13 AM

I don't think it would look good.

Hairdude1 · 18 July 2016, 02:20 AM

Congrats on the 5712, its your watch however I wouldn't

mps354 · 18 July 2016, 03:43 AM

I think you should do it...mostly because I'd just like to see what the result is without risking one of my own watches

JS4LUV · 18 July 2016, 04:58 AM

Be the first one to lead us w/ your inspiration!

willski · 18 July 2016, 06:18 AM

Also in the 'no' camp.

Nonetheless, I'd be curious to see how it looks if anyone has a picture?

RUK · 18 July 2016, 08:29 AM

bad idea!

Andrés G · 18 July 2016, 08:48 AM

Please leave it alone. In my opinion, it will look awful.

waspy1 · 18 July 2016, 10:52 AM

Brushing the oyster is easy since the centre links are on the same plane as the sides. On the nautilus, the centre link has a complicated contour, there's no way I can see that you could get the same finish as the sides. Also, the slightest buffing from your shirt etc will make the dome of the centre link look different from the rest. Basically a big 'no' from me.

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beshannon · 18 July 2016, 10:34 PM

Will you also brush the rest of the polished parts, the bezel, case etc?

brettpaul · 18 July 2016, 11:51 PM

I too prefer brushed links, but would rather let the PCL's get a natural patina over time. I think it would be an interesting look for sure and maybe someone with PhotoShop skills will oblige with a pic.

ash20 · 19 July 2016, 02:10 PM

No, for some many reasons no. Really missing the beauty in design of that bracelet if you were to do this imo...

gummy · 19 July 2016, 02:40 PM

congrats!

keep it as is and wear it - a lot

then see how it looks...my guess is it will patina beautifully!

ap1 · 19 July 2016, 04:00 PM

Don't do it.

psv · 19 July 2016, 04:04 PM

I'm fine with modded Rolex, even APs, but Patek... leave it be. It is a dressy sport watch, so the PCL are not out of place. If you don't like them, don't get the watch.

TickTopia · 19 July 2016, 05:05 PM

There is no way that I'd ever alter, a piece like this from it's original form.

.db · 19 July 2016, 05:25 PM

I can't picture this working well with the rest of the watch.

brookish · 19 July 2016, 05:47 PM

Just leave it and enjoy it, after a while the PCL will looked so scratched they will look brushed anyway...

Jetkopite · 19 July 2016, 10:04 PM

Very silly idea and thought in my opinion.. 5712 is not a tool watch.

lapince · 19 July 2016, 10:40 PM

WOW didn't expect so many responses, thanks

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Originally Posted by Passionata

No ,I wouldn t do it actually i like the PCL on my other watches(Daytona ,jubilee)too.

Well I love how it looks George, just since I prefer other watches without the PCL was just wondering how it would look and what you guys thought

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Originally Posted by AK797

No I wouldn't do it mate, I certainly would not ever on a 5711, maybe more chance on a 12 as the dial is more interesting but still no. I would just wear the AP whenever you need to protect the PP.

You're right my friend, won't touch it in ten years when comes service time and maybe light polishing

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Originally Posted by HL65

Fist off I didn't realize you were getting a 5712 again so this is the first time I have heard that so congrats. Secondly NO that would look awful.

Thanks Ken, yes it is waiting for me in Davos, I haven't told really until now, and in October I am getting a second one, a 5167R, wanted an under the radar RG watch and hope I will love it, love the 44RG from AP, but it's not enough under the radar for my tastes, and yeah you're right probably better untouched

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Originally Posted by GB-man

No no no. I advocate brushing oysters because there is historical presidence for brushed rolex bracelets. Doing it to a nautilus would be fugly imo. Also bracelet would be too fragile for that imo.

Yeah you're right Tom

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Originally Posted by Hairdude1

Congrats on the 5712, its your watch however I wouldn't

Thanks Alex, it's definitely my watch, this time it's staying for sure

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Originally Posted by mps354

I think you should do it...mostly because I'd just like to see what the result is without risking one of my own watches

Yeah I would love someone to do it to have an idea of how it looks like, always better when someone else experiments on their 30K watch rather than having to do it on your own

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Originally Posted by JS4LUV

Be the first one to lead us w/ your inspiration!

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Originally Posted by willski

Also in the 'no' camp.

Nonetheless, I'd be curious to see how it looks if anyone has a picture?

I didn't find pics but if someone is good with photoshop, not my case, it should be quite easy to do

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Originally Posted by RUK

bad idea!

Probably, as I said it was just a thought and I knew I would most certainly not do it, wanted to know your thoughts, and it's quite a landslide

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Originally Posted by Andrés G

Please leave it alone. In my opinion, it will look awful.

Don't worry Andrés, it will be left alone

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Originally Posted by waspy1

Brushing the oyster is easy since the centre links are on the same plane as the sides. On the nautilus, the centre link has a complicated contour, there's no way I can see that you could get the same finish as the sides. Also, the slightest buffing from your shirt etc will make the dome of the centre link look different from the rest. Basically a big 'no' from me.
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Yeah you're totally right, getting the bracelet brushed would be much harder than with an Oyster...

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Will you also brush the rest of the polished parts, the bezel, case etc?

I won't brush anything at all, the idea was just for the bracelet, the case is great with polished/brushed surfaces, touching it would be a crime against horology

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Originally Posted by brettpaul

I too prefer brushed links, but would rather let the PCL's get a natural patina over time. I think it would be an interesting look for sure and maybe someone with PhotoShop skills will oblige with a pic.

Yeah definitely better not to do it, and yes would love to see a pic...

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Originally Posted by ash20

No, for some many reasons no. Really missing the beauty in design of that bracelet if you were to do this imo...

No I love the bracelet as well as the rest of the watch, just wanted to see what you guys thought about it, was more or less expecting such a landslide. I had the BLNR before, and didn't like very much the PCL's, when I saw one which had them brushed it looked much nicer, so even if I love the Naut bracelet I thought it might look even better, but with no real intention of doing it...

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Originally Posted by gummy

congrats!

keep it as is and wear it - a lot

then see how it looks...my guess is it will patina beautifully!

Thanks man

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Originally Posted by ap1

Don't do it.

I won't

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Originally Posted by psv

I'm fine with modded Rolex, even APs, but Patek... leave it be. It is a dressy sport watch, so the PCL are not out of place. If you don't like them, don't get the watch.

You are right, I have exactly the same description "dressy sport" watch, or sporty dress watch, and yes they are not out of place at all...

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Originally Posted by TickTopia

There is no way that I'd ever alter, a piece like this from it's original form.

It was a thought but no real intention of doing it

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Originally Posted by .db

I can't picture this working well with the rest of the watch.

Yeah you're probably right, would look off...

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Originally Posted by brookish

Just leave it and enjoy it, after a while the PCL will looked so scratched they will look brushed anyway...

Well I hope the watch will still look good, even after 10-20 years, don't intend to wear it everyday as I will have other watches.

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Originally Posted by Jetkopite

Very silly idea and thought in my opinion.. 5712 is not a tool watch.

Yeah you're right Andy, it is a silly idea, but sometimes I have them, like I guess most people

fai9al · 19 July 2016, 11:07 PM

I wouldn't do it!

sechsgang · 20 July 2016, 02:39 AM

Ill be one in the few saying I think it would look great and I actually think the bracelet that patek uses on the lineup is one of the cheapest ones on the market looks-wise. The PCLs don't help it at all and honestly its one of the reasons I got rid of my 5711. If he was talking about the face/bezel of the watch Id say leave it, but the bracelet, worst case scenario just buy a replacement bracelet...NONE of these watches within our lives will be worth anything different because of a replaced bracelet realistically...

17 July 2016, 02:27 PM	#1
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	Brushed Nautilus bracelet?? Hi guys. Ok don't throw eggs at me yet, just try to imagine it Like some of you know, I am getting back a 5712 in the collection, will get it on the 3rd of August. Some of you already know I love the watch, only flipped my previous one for a very interesting investment, could have flipped the AP ce diver but as the serial number is 005 and the age I had when I got it, decided I would want to keep it because of this, yeah I know maybe stupid, and knew I would get back one day or another a 5712. So I am getting it, and some will cry heresy, but even if I love the watch I always preferred non PCL bracelets, there is no way I will sell this one, do you think asking a pro to brush out the PCL's is crazy or do you think it could be a good idea? It would look great IMO, and also would make it look different, of course some people who see it and know watches would think it's a fake but that is not a problem I wouldn't care one bit. I have no idea wether I would want to do it or not, probably won't, brushing PCL's on a Rolex is fine, love to see when people brushed out there's, but on a 30K+ watch it might be wiser to leave it alone, would just like your opinion and thoughts on the matter. Thanks in advance for your time and comments

17 July 2016, 05:11 PM	#4
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	I think it is a bad idea to mess with your Nautilus that way. Maybe, when it is serviced, ask if HSA can brush the center links for you. __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

17 July 2016, 07:40 PM	#6
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	No ,I wouldn t do it actually i like the PCL on my other watches(Daytona ,jubilee)too. __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

17 July 2016, 10:45 PM	#8
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,398	Fist off I didn't realize you were getting a 5712 again so this is the first time I have heard that so congrats. Secondly NO that would look awful. __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

18 July 2016, 02:20 AM	#11
Hairdude1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Alex Location: Chicago Watch: AP,PP, Rolex Posts: 37,156	Congrats on the 5712, its your watch however I wouldn't __________________ Instagram: @Hairdude Watches in Collection 5070R, 5522A, 214270 MK1, 228238 16750, 26401, 5711, 116718, 116710LN, 116300, 16710"Coke", 372, 15300, 15703 (All Flipped) Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas Int'l GTG 2018

17 July 2016, 02:31 PM	#2
Jareddad "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 326	You can do whatever you want with your watch. But personally, I would leave it original and classic.

17 July 2016, 03:16 PM	#3
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	I think the original polished center links provide a beautiful contrast to the watch and wouldn't have it any other way.

17 July 2016, 10:38 PM	#7
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,225	No I wouldn't do it mate, I certainly would not ever on a 5711, maybe more chance on a 12 as the dial is more interesting but still no. I would just wear the AP whenever you need to protect the PP.

18 July 2016, 01:35 AM	#9
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,859	No no no. I advocate brushing oysters because there is historical presidence for brushed rolex bracelets. Doing it to a nautilus would be fugly imo. Also bracelet would be too fragile for that imo.

18 July 2016, 02:13 AM	#10
GarageBMW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Third Degree Location: Glenfinnan Watch: the step Posts: 1,874	I don't think it would look good.

18 July 2016, 03:43 AM	#12
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,972	I think you should do it...mostly because I'd just like to see what the result is without risking one of my own watches

18 July 2016, 04:58 AM	#13
JS4LUV Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 105	Be the first one to lead us w/ your inspiration!

18 July 2016, 06:18 AM	#14
willski "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Will Location: New York Posts: 500	Also in the 'no' camp. Nonetheless, I'd be curious to see how it looks if anyone has a picture?

18 July 2016, 08:29 AM	#15
RUK "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Real Name: Ruk Location: .ie Watch: 5711,Sub,Daytona,P Posts: 1,232	bad idea! __________________ 'The best watch out there is the one you like the most'

18 July 2016, 08:48 AM	#16
Andrés G "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Guatemala Posts: 3,391	Please leave it alone. In my opinion, it will look awful.

18 July 2016, 10:52 AM	#17
waspy1 Banned Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Jeff Location: Home! Posts: 1,259	Brushing the oyster is easy since the centre links are on the same plane as the sides. On the nautilus, the centre link has a complicated contour, there's no way I can see that you could get the same finish as the sides. Also, the slightest buffing from your shirt etc will make the dome of the centre link look different from the rest. Basically a big 'no' from me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

18 July 2016, 10:34 PM	#18
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	Will you also brush the rest of the polished parts, the bezel, case etc? __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

18 July 2016, 11:51 PM	#19
brettpaul "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Brett Location: Bahrain, Dubai Watch: Rolex and AP Posts: 5,538	I too prefer brushed links, but would rather let the PCL's get a natural patina over time. I think it would be an interesting look for sure and maybe someone with PhotoShop skills will oblige with a pic. __________________ Photostream on Instagram brett_in_bahrain

19 July 2016, 02:10 PM	#20
ash20 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Abram Location: NorCal Watch: Rolex & Patek Posts: 513	No, for some many reasons no. Really missing the beauty in design of that bracelet if you were to do this imo...

19 July 2016, 02:40 PM	#21
gummy 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Thomas Location: Midwest USA Watch: AP PP Rolex Posts: 3,301	congrats! keep it as is and wear it - a lot then see how it looks...my guess is it will patina beautifully!

19 July 2016, 04:00 PM	#22
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,041	Don't do it.

19 July 2016, 04:04 PM	#23
psv "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: North America Posts: 11,062	I'm fine with modded Rolex, even APs, but Patek... leave it be. It is a dressy sport watch, so the PCL are not out of place. If you don't like them, don't get the watch.

19 July 2016, 05:05 PM	#24
TickTopia 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Wild West, USA Posts: 1,408	There is no way that I'd ever alter, a piece like this from it's original form.

19 July 2016, 05:25 PM	#25
.db "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: California Posts: 398	I can't picture this working well with the rest of the watch.

19 July 2016, 05:47 PM	#26
brookish "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Europe Watch: Rolex Deep Blue Posts: 316	Just leave it and enjoy it, after a while the PCL will looked so scratched they will look brushed anyway... __________________ __________________ Current collection: Rolex Sea-Dweller, Rolex Deepsea D-blue, Rolex 116613LB, Rolex Explorer II (black), Omega Speedmaster SS, IWC Ingenieur Chrono, Panerai PAM127, Panerai PAM328, Panerai PAM629, Panerai PAM217, Panerai PAM339, Panerai PAM341, Panerai PAM605, Panerai PAM376

19 July 2016, 10:04 PM	#27
Jetkopite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Andy Location: Dubai Watch: 5131R,6263,5712T Posts: 1,559	Very silly idea and thought in my opinion.. 5712 is not a tool watch.

19 July 2016, 11:07 PM	#29
fai9al "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Jeddah, KSA Posts: 413	I wouldn't do it!

20 July 2016, 02:39 AM	#30
sechsgang "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,443	Ill be one in the few saying I think it would look great and I actually think the bracelet that patek uses on the lineup is one of the cheapest ones on the market looks-wise. The PCLs don't help it at all and honestly its one of the reasons I got rid of my 5711. If he was talking about the face/bezel of the watch Id say leave it, but the bracelet, worst case scenario just buy a replacement bracelet...NONE of these watches within our lives will be worth anything different because of a replaced bracelet realistically...

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