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Demonoid · 31 July 2023, 09:28 AM

Let’s entertain this wild possibility. Same price. Two chronos from Patek, with very different dial designs. One is plat and the other one is rose gold. One is automatic, the other one is manual, one displays the date, the other one doesn’t. What would be your preference and throw the why if you can.

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vitalsigns · 31 July 2023, 09:34 AM

I'd take the 5070P...

The RG Nautilus is much too flashy and I like the manual wind movement of the 5070 more. 5170P might be a contender given the better case size; but I like the 5070 movement more.

HMHM · 31 July 2023, 09:39 AM

I don’t really like the 5070P, if it was a 5170P that would be a different story. The movement for the 5070 was a compromise and it is too small for the case. So would opt for the 5980 in this case.

GGGMT · 31 July 2023, 09:54 AM

Easy. RG. Iconic. Distinctive. Badass.

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dauster · 31 July 2023, 09:54 AM

5980 all the way - not a fan of the 5070 too big bezel / move to doesn’t fit.

5172 salmon on the other hand wins all the way over the 5980 - I can admire it but can’t pull it off

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fluffybunny · 31 July 2023, 10:07 AM

5070P. Too big for me but more elegant, traditional design wins it for me.

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mps354 · 1 August 2023, 12:55 PM

5070p…manual wind trumps auto for me. I have the g, it’s one of my favorites

Nana7 · 1 August 2023, 01:53 PM

5980/1R

Rose gold and black look amazing together.

ts3 · 1 August 2023, 02:44 PM

I'd much rather have a choice between 5170P and 5968A.

Don't like any pushers mess with the Nautilus case and like Nautilus thin and I prefer the look and size of 5170P over 5070P no matter its relevance.

John Doyle · 1 August 2023, 05:02 PM

Design wise i prefer the Nautilus...

77T · 1 August 2023, 09:41 PM

Platinum trumps RG for me.

If the metals were reversed, then the Nautilus for me.

Have only had a single RG watch in 50 years.

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brandrea · 1 August 2023, 09:59 PM

I’ll take the Nautilus please. I prefer the full PM experience

worldofoyster · 2 August 2023, 12:19 AM

tough choice, both are beautiful. i would go with the RG

bobernet · 2 August 2023, 03:32 AM

5170P

I’ve never loved the Nautilus, and it’s worse, now, with the hype and nonsense.

I live in a temperate climate, and have come to prefer watches on leather. My 5270J and 5370P are my most worn watches.

In full PM, I’d rather have an AP or Rolex over the Nautilus.

I guess I have a lot of reasons.

watchnwine · 2 August 2023, 03:50 AM

Am I the only one that really dislikes the Nautilus? I just don't get it...

raclaims · 2 August 2023, 04:06 AM

I have the nautilus...but would def trade it for the 5070p

Just my own preferences really...the nautilus is awesome...I just slightly prefer the 5070p...both are stellar

Bearxj86 · 2 August 2023, 06:22 AM

Me, I would go 5070p.

The 5070p is more collectible. Production numbers around 200. Very low production and iconic design and good looks (for me at least). Lemania chrono. Its a great dress chrono. Finishing is better on it. Platinum case is better.

The 5980r is very flashy. If you like that then I would go with the 5980. I personally would go with the 5980A or a 5711r over it. The pushers are sticky (not a great movement imho). You do get a flyback feature.

Nlwatches · 2 August 2023, 07:12 AM

5980 for me!

nyc2la · 2 August 2023, 07:15 AM

5070p between the two options, and it’s not even close.

yoast · 2 August 2023, 05:03 PM

5070 of the 2, but I'd go for a 5970g for less

erics · 2 August 2023, 09:38 PM

5070p all day every day and twice on Sunday

The other one is everything that is wrong with PP these days

myk7000 · 3 August 2023, 01:56 AM

5070p in a heartbeat!

flyboyx999 · 3 August 2023, 01:58 AM

5070P it's a classic

goog53 · 3 August 2023, 12:29 PM

5070P is absolutely stunning. 5980 is a chunky scratch magnet so easy choice for me

Ichiran · 3 August 2023, 12:41 PM

The 42mm 5070P is too big for my wrist so I choose the 5980. The 5980 is thicker but sits very nicely on the wrist with the 40mm squarish case that looks smaller than the 40mm quoted diameter. I also love the Nautilus design.

That said I hope Patek reissue the 40mm-size lateral clutch chronograph like the 5170. Thankfully the current 5204 is still that size albeit thicker.

Vasco · 3 August 2023, 07:31 PM

For me, it's very simple, the Nautilus is too visible for where I live and too big for my wrist. But I'm fond of the Nautilus models and this 5980 might be more appealing than the 5070P to me.

However, if I had to spend the money, I would go for the 5070P. You can find a Nautilus (this one or another) nearly anytime while the 5070P is rare.

The 5070P is, as everyone said, an icon of PP chronos now (volume sold, PT, size/shape, movement).

Now it depends also on the frequency one would enjoy each of them. If you clearly want to wear the Nautilus much more often, then the 5070P is maybe mostly a collectible piece you want to have in your collection because it's iconic. That's a nice watch to get but it's "collectability" versus "wearing enjoyment".

The fact that one would hesitate could maybe mean that he doesn't want the 5070P enough?

cts · 3 August 2023, 11:07 PM

Platinum for the win!

Rushne · 4 August 2023, 06:11 PM

I don't like the 5980, but I like it a little more than the 5070. Unfortunately the 5070 is my least favorite version of this chrono series. The bezel is too wide/thick and just looks strange ... in pictures at least.
So the 5980 is my choice, but only just.

rolexperfect · 5 August 2023, 06:38 AM

One like forever? I'd take the Chrono. Timeless. We don't know how a RG Nautilus will stand the test of time.

Calatrava r · 5 August 2023, 08:17 AM

I would opt for the 5070P, but the two watches are not really comparable. Totally different to me.

31 July 2023, 09:28 AM	#1
Demonoid 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Logan Location: USA Posts: 2,416	You can only have one… Let’s entertain this wild possibility. Same price. Two chronos from Patek, with very different dial designs. One is plat and the other one is rose gold. One is automatic, the other one is manual, one displays the date, the other one doesn’t. What would be your preference and throw the why if you can. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 August 2023, 09:41 PM	#11
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,899	Platinum trumps RG for me. If the metals were reversed, then the Nautilus for me. Have only had a single RG watch in 50 years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

2 August 2023, 07:15 AM	#19
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,183	5070p between the two options, and it’s not even close. __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

2 August 2023, 05:03 PM	#20
yoast "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: HK Posts: 2,263	5070 of the 2, but I'd go for a 5970g for less __________________ IG: @yoast.watch https://www.instagram.com/yoast.watch/

3 August 2023, 12:29 PM	#24
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,061	5070P is absolutely stunning. 5980 is a chunky scratch magnet so easy choice for me __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

31 July 2023, 09:34 AM	#2
vitalsigns "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: USA Posts: 520	I'd take the 5070P... The RG Nautilus is much too flashy and I like the manual wind movement of the 5070 more. 5170P might be a contender given the better case size; but I like the 5070 movement more.

31 July 2023, 09:39 AM	#3
HMHM "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Real Name: HM Location: 🇲🇾 Posts: 2,379	I don’t really like the 5070P, if it was a 5170P that would be a different story. The movement for the 5070 was a compromise and it is too small for the case. So would opt for the 5980 in this case.

31 July 2023, 09:54 AM	#4
GGGMT 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Itinerant Watch: 79010sg Posts: 8,099	Easy. RG. Iconic. Distinctive. Badass. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 July 2023, 09:54 AM	#5
dauster "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,884	5980 all the way - not a fan of the 5070 too big bezel / move to doesn’t fit. 5172 salmon on the other hand wins all the way over the 5980 - I can admire it but can’t pull it off Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 July 2023, 10:07 AM	#6
fluffybunny "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Earth Posts: 239	5070P. Too big for me but more elegant, traditional design wins it for me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 August 2023, 12:55 PM	#7
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,977	5070p…manual wind trumps auto for me. I have the g, it’s one of my favorites

1 August 2023, 01:53 PM	#8
Nana7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: California Watch: Patek Posts: 47	5980/1R Rose gold and black look amazing together.

1 August 2023, 02:44 PM	#9
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,252	I'd much rather have a choice between 5170P and 5968A. Don't like any pushers mess with the Nautilus case and like Nautilus thin and I prefer the look and size of 5170P over 5070P no matter its relevance.

1 August 2023, 05:02 PM	#10
John Doyle "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Location: US Posts: 593	Design wise i prefer the Nautilus...

1 August 2023, 09:59 PM	#12
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 74,161	I’ll take the Nautilus please. I prefer the full PM experience

2 August 2023, 12:19 AM	#13
worldofoyster "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Real Name: Vincent Location: 215 Watch: SS Sub Posts: 1,853	tough choice, both are beautiful. i would go with the RG

2 August 2023, 03:32 AM	#14
bobernet "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Bob Location: Mountains Watch: ALS, AP, PP, Rolex Posts: 2,900	5170P I’ve never loved the Nautilus, and it’s worse, now, with the hype and nonsense. I live in a temperate climate, and have come to prefer watches on leather. My 5270J and 5370P are my most worn watches. In full PM, I’d rather have an AP or Rolex over the Nautilus. I guess I have a lot of reasons.

2 August 2023, 03:50 AM	#15
watchnwine "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2023 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 86	Am I the only one that really dislikes the Nautilus? I just don't get it...

2 August 2023, 04:06 AM	#16
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,584	I have the nautilus...but would def trade it for the 5070p Just my own preferences really...the nautilus is awesome...I just slightly prefer the 5070p...both are stellar

2 August 2023, 06:22 AM	#17
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,806	Me, I would go 5070p. The 5070p is more collectible. Production numbers around 200. Very low production and iconic design and good looks (for me at least). Lemania chrono. Its a great dress chrono. Finishing is better on it. Platinum case is better. The 5980r is very flashy. If you like that then I would go with the 5980. I personally would go with the 5980A or a 5711r over it. The pushers are sticky (not a great movement imho). You do get a flyback feature.

2 August 2023, 07:12 AM	#18
Nlwatches "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: USA Posts: 22	5980 for me!

2 August 2023, 09:38 PM	#21
erics "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: london Watch: 5712r, XX, 1675 Posts: 189	5070p all day every day and twice on Sunday The other one is everything that is wrong with PP these days

3 August 2023, 01:56 AM	#22
myk7000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: LA Watch: ♛ & ✠ Posts: 244	5070p in a heartbeat!

3 August 2023, 01:58 AM	#23
flyboyx999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: charlotte, NC Posts: 256	5070P it's a classic

3 August 2023, 12:41 PM	#25
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,672	The 42mm 5070P is too big for my wrist so I choose the 5980. The 5980 is thicker but sits very nicely on the wrist with the 40mm squarish case that looks smaller than the 40mm quoted diameter. I also love the Nautilus design. That said I hope Patek reissue the 40mm-size lateral clutch chronograph like the 5170. Thankfully the current 5204 is still that size albeit thicker.

3 August 2023, 07:31 PM	#26
Vasco "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Europe Posts: 575	For me, it's very simple, the Nautilus is too visible for where I live and too big for my wrist. But I'm fond of the Nautilus models and this 5980 might be more appealing than the 5070P to me. However, if I had to spend the money, I would go for the 5070P. You can find a Nautilus (this one or another) nearly anytime while the 5070P is rare. The 5070P is, as everyone said, an icon of PP chronos now (volume sold, PT, size/shape, movement). Now it depends also on the frequency one would enjoy each of them. If you clearly want to wear the Nautilus much more often, then the 5070P is maybe mostly a collectible piece you want to have in your collection because it's iconic. That's a nice watch to get but it's "collectability" versus "wearing enjoyment". The fact that one would hesitate could maybe mean that he doesn't want the 5070P enough?

3 August 2023, 11:07 PM	#27
cts "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: USA Posts: 888	Platinum for the win!

4 August 2023, 06:11 PM	#28
Rushne 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Watch: White 116500LN Posts: 864	I don't like the 5980, but I like it a little more than the 5070. Unfortunately the 5070 is my least favorite version of this chrono series. The bezel is too wide/thick and just looks strange ... in pictures at least. So the 5980 is my choice, but only just. __________________ Omega: Seamaster Professional 300M 2220.80.00 Rolex: Daytona White Dial 116500LN Rolex: Sky-Dweller Blue Dial Jubilee 336934 Rolex: DateJust 36 Roman White Dial Oyster 126234 Rolex: OP 36 Celebration Dial 126000 Panerai: PAM 422 Patek Philippe: Aquanaut 5167A A. Lange & Söhne: 1815 Annual Calendar @mechanicaltom Stolen: IWC Portuguese 500107 Case number 3853222

5 August 2023, 06:38 AM	#29
rolexperfect "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: around the world Watch: 116506 Posts: 1,370	One like forever? I'd take the Chrono. Timeless. We don't know how a RG Nautilus will stand the test of time. __________________ “buy what you like, and be done with it“

5 August 2023, 08:17 AM	#30
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,680	I would opt for the 5070P, but the two watches are not really comparable. Totally different to me.

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