When will second hand Rolex dealers get desperate?

[amh]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

Prove it. Daily threads about “back dooring” but never any tangible evidence. Folks alway lament “so many new watches for sale at greys” when exponentially more were quietly delivered by the AD to their valued clients.

It's those "good customers" selling to the greys

[PhilAviate]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

I disagree. In Arizona I have been to the AD and they want you to buy other items and do what they want you to do. Yeah I don’t spend my money except my way and I’m certainly not having some guy who sells jewelry for a living bossing me around.

The AD created the grey market with their snobbish ways so grey it is. Doesn’t matter to me if I get new from dealer or grey. It’s only money and my motto is I’ll make more tomorrow.


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I don't disagree that AD are the source of the problem, they are the ones fuelling the grey dealers through the back door.

But before the nonsense of the last couple years it wasn't worth it to them to do that. Hence the ad experience was good.

But now the greys are trying to keep the hype going, even though it has clearly died, and this is having the knock on effect of making the ad experience bad.

But their false clinging to the dead hype can only last so long, supply is building up rapidly and their lies of scarcity are getting too big to hide.

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

“Bossing you around”? lol

The entitlement on these threads is amazing.

The ADs didn’t create the grey market. The sole thing that created it is a price ceiling that’s different than market value. Greys would go away tomorrow if ADs could charge whatever they wanted.

Imagining that “AD snobbishness” is what started this is pure fan fiction dreamed up by people upset they can’t get a luxury watch.

Well i will put it another way. Some guy making salesman wages and selling watches isn’t going to dictate to me how I spend my FU money ever. He’s not at the top of the food chain by far.


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[Rolex.Journey]

Greys are still going to try and inflate prices and increase their margins for as long as they can. Come tax season we will get a clearer picture of the 2024 economy and I think we’ll have our answer about the state of the secondary market.

Greys have been around for 40 years + providing good prices until recently. Question is whether we will be able to get good deals from them as it has historically been, or if they’re just trying to bend us over a barrel to keep this shtick going.


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[jitdc]

I'm not sure there is a problem or some single actor to blame per se. Watches as status symbols rose dramatically in popularity over the last few years. But like all trends that will change and folks will move on to the next thing. All markets have cycles. Will this one plateau or trend down a bit further? Probably. Will it go back up one day? Probably. Personally, I would rather buy from my AD. I like new and never worn. Not to mention that retail was a discount to market price at one time, just like the secondary sellers were a discount to retail at one point in time.

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

Well i will put it another way. Some guy making salesman wages and selling watches isn’t going to dictate to me how I spend my FU money ever. He’s not at the top of the food chain by far.


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I don’t think of myself as above or below someone because of their occupation or how much money they make, but you do you.

So much of that on these threads and people showing their poor character.

And he’s not dictating to you how you spend your money. He’s got something you want and is telling you the conditions under which he will sell it to you.
Not sure what the issue is.

Nobody is owed a luxury watch. These aren’t food rations.

[Rolex1982]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

Well i will put it another way. Some guy making salesman wages and selling watches isn’t going to dictate to me how I spend my FU money ever. He’s not at the top of the food chain by far.


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Hmm nobody can dictate anybody how they should spend their money. No wages or the amount of money someone has makes any difference in that. And that last remark, people on top of the food chain are people who have everything they need regardless of how much it is compared to others or what others think. They don’t feel the need to compare.. ;) Please don’t compare people on such meaningless stats as wages or what he/she does for a living. Live and let live!

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

Well i will put it another way. Some guy making salesman wages and selling watches isn’t going to dictate to me how I spend my FU money ever. He’s not at the top of the food chain by far.


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Hey, I make salesman wages and I buy Rolexes just like you. You are projecting an image of yourself but I don’t think it’s the image you intend, maybe that’s why the AD won’t sell you a watch.

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Hey, I make salesman wages and I buy Rolexes just like you. You are projecting an image of yourself but I don’t think it’s the image you intend, maybe that’s why the AD won’t sell you a watch.

No I go to an ad in shorts and flops and ask to buy a Rolex. I get told I have to get in a list. Then I’m told I’ll have to take pieces they get in first they want to sell me to get mine.

No it’s their image of acting like they are the ones with the money. Wrong I’m the customer with the money and I’ll be damned if some salesman is going to dictate to me what I’m going to buy.


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[Gaussian]

What an interesting world we all live in.

The AD doesn't need to sell a watch to you and you don't need to buy the watch from them.

[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

No I go to an ad in shorts and flops and ask to buy a Rolex. I get told I have to get in a list. Then I’m told I’ll have to take pieces they get in first they want to sell me to get mine.

No it’s their image of acting like they are the ones with the money. Wrong I’m the customer with the money and I’ll be damned if some salesman is going to dictate to me what I’m going to buy.


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Boo hoo, I go to the AD in camo shorts and high-tops and they have never once mentioned a list to me. In the last five years the longest I’ve waited for a Rolex is 4.5 months. I’ve never bought jewelry from them other than wedding rings and I’ve never been asked to. ADs sell to who they choose to, dig deep and ask yourself why they aren’t choosing you.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

No I go to an ad in shorts and flops and ask to buy a Rolex. I get told I have to get in a list. Then I’m told I’ll have to take pieces they get in first they want to sell me to get mine.

No it’s their image of acting like they are the ones with the money. Wrong I’m the customer with the money and I’ll be damned if some salesman is going to dictate to me what I’m going to buy.


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Sounds like all the gifts you bring them hasn't yeilded.

[Wrathchild]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

No I go to an ad in shorts and flops and ask to buy a Rolex. I get told I have to get in a list. Then I’m told I’ll have to take pieces they get in first they want to sell me to get mine.

No it’s their image of acting like they are the ones with the money. Wrong I’m the customer with the money and I’ll be damned if some salesman is going to dictate to me what I’m going to buy.


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Hey, why not step it up a notch and storm into an AD in your underwear and scream for service.
Demand a watch for your money. See if that image works

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Wrathchild

Hey, why not step it up a notch and storm into an AD in your underwear and scream for service.
Demand a watch for your money. See if that image works

No they would get too much satisfaction


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[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Boo hoo, I go to the AD in camo shorts and high-tops and they have never once mentioned a list to me. In the last five years the longest I’ve waited for a Rolex is 4.5 months. I’ve never bought jewelry from them other than wedding rings and I’ve never been asked to. ADs sell to who they choose to, dig deep and ask yourself why they aren’t choosing you.

Good for you and no I’m not asking myself why so salesman isn’t looking me. You can do that and have your shallow worth. Lmao.

So many things I can say but I’ll leave you alone. Lmao


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[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Onikage

Sounds like all the gifts you bring them hasn't yeilded.

Yeah not begging some 40k a year goon in a suit to spend my money. You boys sure get defensive of your AD.

Hmmmmm


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by amh

It's those "good customers" selling to the greys

It is actually far more folks than you may realize. How many threads here asking should I trade this for that, downsize to one nice or so-so nice. Am I a flipper if I .... The list is endless. This is a fluid market, and many people worldwide buy, sell and trade watches daily much to the delight of the used watch market sellers.

[Onikage]

The underwear really has to be unbuttoned when demanding things for your money.

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

It is actually far more folks than you may realize. How many threads here asking should I trade this for that, downsize to one nice or so-so nice. Am I a flipper if I .... The list is endless. This is a fluid market, and many people worldwide buy, sell and trade watches daily.

I watch the grey dealers on social media and one show he had 10 bnib Rolex show up on a delivery. So I’m sure dealers are selling to grey.


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[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Onikage

The underwear really has to be unbuttoned when demanding things for your money.

My underwear don’t have buttons. Don’t know what weird drawers you wear


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

Good for you and no I’m not asking myself why so salesman isn’t looking me. You can do that and have your shallow worth. Lmao.

So many things I can say but I’ll leave you alone. Lmao


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Shallow worth? It appears that at least one AD has determined that I am a customer of value, not for what I bring them or what I buy in addition to Rolexes but for who I am and how I treat them. And it appears that at least one AD has made a clear value judgement about you. You’ve shown us why.

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Shallow worth? It appears that at least one AD has determined that I am a customer of value, not for what I bring them or what I buy in addition to Rolexes but for who I am and how I treat them. And it appears that at least one AD has made a clear value judgement about you. You’ve shown us why.

You are an idiot. How’s that. I walk in very pleasant and ask about their watches and they have their gimmicks here in Arizona. Sorry I don’t play that game. Especially for a watch of all things.

Sow yes salesman who want you to buy other things or kiss up to them are worthless and hardly quality individuals. And you’re not making a living selling watches in a boutique. Lmao


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[Kevin of Larchmont]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

You are an idiot. How’s that. I walk in very pleasant and ask about their watches and they have their gimmicks here in Arizona. Sorry I don’t play that game. Especially for a watch of all things.

Sow yes salesman who want you to buy other things or kiss up to them are worthless and hardly quality individuals. And you’re not making a living selling watches in a boutique. Lmao


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Well, if you say you are pleasant then it truly is a mystery.

[RTG]

Originally Posted by Onikage

The underwear really has to be unbuttoned when demanding things for your money.

This depends on who is wearing the underwear.

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Kevin of Larchmont

Well, if you say you are pleasant then it truly is a mystery.

No it’s how Arizona AD work and I was warned. Scottsdale AZ is the fakest town in America.


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[bluestreak]

I love when folks, whose odious personalities are clearly only tolerated in most other circumstances because they have money, bristle when called out on their entitled behavior.
They *always* accuse people of “defending ADs” instead of looking inward.

Shouldn’t be a surprise I guess…


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[superpop]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

I love when folks, whose odious personalities are clearly only tolerated in most other circumstances because they have money, bristle when called out on their entitled behavior.
They *always* accuse people of “defending ADs” instead of looking inward.

Shouldn’t be a surprise I guess…


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You cannot buy class, and even a lowly AD sales person can smell a lack of class.

[ArtNouveau]

Originally Posted by superpop

You cannot buy class, and even a lowly AD sales person can smell a lack of class.

Yes. Plenty of posters here clearly show why they can’t get a watch from an AD. Then continue to double down.

[Wrathchild]

Originally Posted by Watchmanaz

My underwear don’t have buttons. Don’t know what weird drawers you wear


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He was having a joke…. Not serious

[Watchmanaz]

Originally Posted by Wrathchild

He was having a joke…. Not serious

I know so was I.


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