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13 March 2020, 10:16 AM | #1771 |
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Here in Ontario Canada, the province has now extended the March break for another two weeks. This is to deal with vacationers returning from their destination and having 14 days added to self isolate so that children in schools don’t become infected or carriers.
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I plan on watching Steven King's The Stand miniseries this weekend. It seems appropriate in these times.
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Any Docs in here that can DM me what to expect as someone who has viral induced asthma?
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Disney and Universal will be closed til the end of the month.
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One of the last places I would want to be, seems pretty logical.
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Have to say -
4 weeks ago if someone would have said that NBA and NHL leagues would suspend seasons, colleges would send kids home (including mine) for the semester, I’d say you’re crazy. Not to mention scope of infections, the market, jobs etc. Wow. What a complete disaster and tragedy. For some, a medical crisis. For most, medically not an issue. Economics and society- horrible. Stay well all. |
13 March 2020, 12:42 PM | #1777 |
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This sounds like some sort of mass hysteria, War of the Worlds broadcast.
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This article compares two different approaches to deal with COVID19: the lockdown approach (Italy) versus the test-and-track approach (S. Korea). The test-and-track approach is much more effective, the article concludes.
But I'm afraid that the effective test-and-track approach is hard to implement in a big country like US. I just hope that our government won't enforce the Italian lockdown approach. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20Z27P "MILAN/SEOUL (Reuters) - In Italy, millions are locked down and more than 1,000 people have died from the coronavirus. In South Korea, hit by the disease at about the same time, only a few thousand are quarantined and 67 people have died. As the virus courses through the world, the story of two outbreaks illustrates a coming problem for countries now grappling with an explosion in cases." |
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Great points. My question is all the experts say if one family member gets it, not to share plates utensils. Obviously no one would (should) share unwashed plates, but is that what they mean? Who would think that’s a good idea?? Assume that a modern high temp dishwasher sanitizes everything. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Like you say, test and track may not work in the USA. That is not because the country is big but because the authorities are useless. Test and track can not work where there is no effective testing. Prepare for a lock down. To those who still feel like travelling, attending large functions and going to the gym, think about what you are doing and the risk that you are exposing yourself and your loved ones and your co workers to. How would you feel if you caught it at the gym and you then when on to infect someone, or multiple people who died as a result? Not great I imagine. I don't think that changing a person's lifestyle for a month or two is too much to ask to minimize the risk of catching this and spreading it to others. |
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The Governor of Michigan just closed all our public schools for the next 3 weeks.
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I think the answer is so individual, and the risks so varied that ideas you get here are just that ideas - not recommendations. I might consider disposable versus regular dishes/flatware. The ill person does need to be isolated. But if that’s impossible then most modern dishwashers have a sanitize cycle. I’d be sure the ill person’s dishes/utensils were washed separately. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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There is a running sarcastic "joke" by commentators on many Coronavirus youtube videos that one of the symptoms of Coronavirus is the sudden desire to travel internationally, especially when compared to influenza. It really does seem to be the case.. Flu: EWW, Let's stay away from everybody and not spread this #$% around. Coronavirus: When is the next flight to XXXXX?? Never been there, seems like a great time to do some travelling or take a cruise! I kid you not, a person I know decided this was a great time to take his first international cruise. That's right. He just got back yesterday. When his HR dept found out he traveled overseas, they immediately sent him home and told him not to come back without a negative coronavirus test... Well surely he was tested upon re-entry into the US, so he could just use that? Nope. They only tested two passengers who were sick on the ship in the port. They were "negative" so everybody else got off the ship without a test. Problem now is that he can't get a test from the health department as he is not symptomatic and he can't go back to work until he gets one. What a mess. Again...he just suddenly thought it would be great to go on a cruise like 12days ago while the pandemic was ramping up.. |
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Lockdown of 900m people for 2 months seems to work. I hope the lockdown works for the Italians in similar fashion too. Bless them. |
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Re 'Fleetlords' post: This is why epidemics are what they are - because you cannot rely on people to be rational. The one thing you can depend upon is that most people will always do what they (in their infinite wisdom) want to and to hell with everyone else.
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We have a honeymoon planned to Key West from March 28 to April 5.....am I assuming it's probably a bit risky to go?
Who knows what even will be up with commercial air travel by then. Seems the airlines are willing to give a credit for the tickets to be used anytime in the next 12 months.....hotels seems amenable to canceling, too. Thoughts? I mean even if we could go.....you wonder how many places (restaurants, tourist spots, businesses) will be voluntarily closed anyways. |
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It’s interesting to note the sheer number of “celebrities”, sportspeople and politicians who have been confirmed to be infected. The numbers seem to be disproportionate to the number of confirmed cases in places like the UK and USA. This is further evidence of the extent to which the number of reported cases is a significant under estimate: prominent people have the means to get themselves tested in a way the proles don’t.
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Just out of interest, is it an us and them scenario again? Arsenal manager and Chelsea player test positive, both at home, no hospitalisation feeling ok. BUT we are not testing people apparently?! So explain how that works? If an MP shows symptoms I bet money they are tested. Just highlights further inequality and it’s not to do with resources it’s to do with standing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I may be being too cynical: one explanation is that the nature of professional football is that the people involved are closely exposed to players and staff from all over the world so they are more likely to have come into contact with the virus - which would legitimately trigger a test if they were symptomatic. Also, the tests are conducted under the auspices of Public Health England and I believe all of them are reported via a single lab in Colindale in London. There is no facility for private testing in the UK at the current time. Yet still, like you I do wonder if some people are more likely to be tested by virtue of who they are. ‘Twas ever thus.
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Agreed on the status issue Contact doesn’t any longer trigger a test though according to the PM and his advisors yesterday, only if you are bad enough to be hospitalised will you be tested Also they are saying about 70% of cases present as a common cold, so no fever no persistent cough so we carry on?? Potentially passing it to someone who is more vulnerable? The government’s message was very misleading. Being cynical I wonder if not testing everyone with symptoms is not only financial but an issue of standing on the world stage. Less tests, less proved cases we look so much more organised? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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That’s true, but the test results take 2-5 days to be reported so when the individuals mentioned were tested, they may well have met the criteria at the time (contact + symptoms).
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Sorry to bombard you NHS 111 says have you been in contact with someone who has tested positive for Covid-19, how the hell do we now know when we are not testing people?? More confused than ever Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I can't see the point of testing and I never have.
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It is so much better. Only 13,600 cases remaining; 13,171 in Hubei. Number of remaining cases dropping by over 1000 per day. Even if the official figures are wrong, they are close enough. You would not have the top leadership visiting Hubei if things were not dramatically better.
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Just found out one of my clients has tested positive,lucky I’ve been working with him on zoom for the last 2 weeks
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