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Old 14 October 2021, 09:01 AM   #31
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Hand held leaf blower batteries last around 30 minutes, then need a 3+ hour charge. There are only a couple of back pack style battery blowers, and they are expensive 80v batteries.

I can see it now, hundreds of landscape trucks mounted with their gas/diesel generators, running non-stop to keep their dozens of batteries charged up while they go house to house to keep the California celebrity yards up to snuff.
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Old 14 October 2021, 09:16 AM   #32
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They make an awful racket and dump a whole bunch of crap into the air. If there are alternatives, great!

Just yelling, “get off my lawn!” doesn’t seem to help.


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Old 14 October 2021, 09:19 AM   #33
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Electric leaf blowers will dump a lot of crap in the air as well.
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Old 14 October 2021, 09:38 AM   #34
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This will make all of the power outages interesting.

The State of California solves numerous problems not needing a solution.
It's that old saying the devil is in the details. It's called SOREs (Small Off-Road Engines) for short.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts.

It's basically every 2-stroke engine.
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Old 14 October 2021, 10:08 AM   #35
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Old 14 October 2021, 10:30 AM   #36
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If I did not have both a commercial grade walk behind leaf blower and a backpack blower, it would take me until the spring thaw to rake all of my leaves.

My home and property is surrounded on all four sides by heavy tree cover.
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:02 AM   #37
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Maybe California can start chopping down residential trees?
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:08 AM   #38
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I'm guessing this is a ban on the sales of these engines, not their use.
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:36 AM   #39
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It's that old saying the devil is in the details. It's called SOREs (Small Off-Road Engines) for short.

The new law will ban the sale of all off-road, gas-powered engines, including generators, lawn equipment, pressure washers, chainsaws, weed trimmers, and even golf carts.

It's basically every 2-stroke engine.

Hey buddy.... way past time to move!!
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:39 AM   #40
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I'm guessing this is a ban on the sales of these engines, not their use.
^correct.

At least CA has a strong power grid for all their residents to recharge each night. Plus, I’m sure all the small(ish) batteries will be eco-friendly from a manufacturing and disposal perspective.
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:51 AM   #41
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Hey buddy.... way past time to move!!
Hey you!!!

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Old 14 October 2021, 11:52 AM   #42
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^correct.

At least CA has a strong power grid for all their residents to recharge each night. Plus, I’m sure all the small(ish) batteries will be eco-friendly from a manufacturing and disposal perspective.
Actually our infrastructure is quite bad. During heat waves we have mandates where owners of EVs aren’t allowed to charge their cars overnight and these last for days.

Seriously.
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Old 14 October 2021, 12:03 PM   #43
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I need my gas leaf blower to dry all of my gas powered ATVs after a wash!


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Old 14 October 2021, 12:38 PM   #44
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Please remember to vote differently than you did in California :)
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Old 14 October 2021, 12:47 PM   #45
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I got a set of battery powered Stihl equipment nearly 10 years ago, it all works, had to get new batteries last year. Maybe they're not as powerful as the gas operated ones, but certainly around 90% or so, the headache is zero, the maintenance the same and it all works (still). So I hope we can all move forward and keep our neighbors sane...I even got a Stihl lawn robot mower and its working perfectly fine, had to replace some wheels after 3 years and the blade anually, but it saves on lawn maintenance, the guys don't have to drive all the trucks over , I don't get any diseases or other seeds carried in, it's super quite and actually entertaining to watch, super quite. The future is here...
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Old 14 October 2021, 12:53 PM   #46
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Actually our infrastructure is quite bad. During heat waves we have mandates where owners of EVs aren’t allowed to charge their cars overnight and these last for days.

Seriously.

Seriously...

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Old 14 October 2021, 02:48 PM   #47
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Unless you have very big areas to cover, rechargeable-battery powered tools are so much more convenient than 2-stroke petrol-powered stuff. I could never get my new petrol chainsaw to start and eventually gave it away. Bought an electric one - starts every time.
Love my rechargeable-battery leaf blower. Not noisy and blows like crazy (I am not one of the inconsiderate people who just blows all their rubbish on to the street or someone elses property) I mainly use it to blow the dust out of the garages.
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Old 14 October 2021, 02:58 PM   #48
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Gas powered lawn mowers too? Wow. How will golf courses and other people with large yards be able to mow? As far as I know, there aren't any large, riding commercial mowers that are battery operated.
There's a couple companies making zero turn battery mowers. I have quite a bit of Ego brand equipment and find the weed whackers, hedge trimmers, etc to be more powerful than the gas stuff I once owned. The biggest drawback I see is the cost of the batteries. I have several sizes, with the smallest battery costing about $150. I don't have any riding equipment, can't imagine what that battery will cost. I need at least two batteries to weed whack and edge my property (I went back to a gas mower when I bought my current property, which is almost two acres). Commercially, it's doable, but gonna be quite an investment to get started and probably ongoing to keep replacing batteries.
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Old 14 October 2021, 03:43 PM   #49
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How on the one hand does one ban ICE engines for personal transportation but on the other hand not go after such a significantly polluting activity as leaf blowers?

Logic and progress. Air and noise pollution to move around leaves is pretty stupid when (if) you think about it.

I remember raking leaves when I was young. That worked just fine and also was a bit of exercise.
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Old 14 October 2021, 04:03 PM   #50
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I work in Landscape construction. Every time I pick up a 22v, 36v, 56v rechargeable battery tool I feel it is safer, more reliable as well as often quieter and cleaner. This change is inevitable. I don't know why this has to be about who you vote for.
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Old 14 October 2021, 05:12 PM   #51
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Damn you Paul, my leaf blower is my absolute favourite lawn and garden tool
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Old 14 October 2021, 08:23 PM   #52
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^correct.

At least CA has a strong power grid for all their residents to recharge each night. Plus, I’m sure all the small(ish) batteries will be eco-friendly from a manufacturing and disposal perspective.
Nobody has this strong an infrastructure for all the charging requirements. Maybe the power companies could actually provide the amount, but their residential distribution infrastructure couldn’t handle the amount of power they will eventually need to EVs and battery everything.
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Old 14 October 2021, 08:51 PM   #53
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Old 14 October 2021, 10:17 PM   #54
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Don’t you love centralized power? As posted before, great ways to solve problems that never existed. All bow down to your leaders and obey...
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:24 PM   #55
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If you cant handle a leaf rake maybe you don't need a yard
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Old 14 October 2021, 11:37 PM   #56
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A two strike gas engine puts as much air pollution into our air in just a couple hours as the average American’s car does in a week. For this reason alone I support this move.

For me, the real benefit would be my neighbor’s yard guy not waking me up with that damn high pitched whine at 7:15 every Saturday morning.
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Old 15 October 2021, 12:00 AM   #57
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Old 15 October 2021, 12:18 AM   #58
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From all the outrage there seems to be a lot of landscape and gardening people on this site.

It's obviously an attempt to move away from fossil fuels, one sector at at time.

Welcome to the 21 Century.
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Old 15 October 2021, 12:19 AM   #59
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