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Old 3 April 2021, 04:45 PM   #61
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So, current WG Pepsi owners would be upset because now it would look like they own a mere steel Rolex? They should own WG for themselves, not to impress a stranger that they can afford more than a steel Rolex. They should get over it.
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Old 3 April 2021, 04:45 PM   #62
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Big no if they put out a GMT on oyster for me. Part of what set the new GMT’s apart from the rest of the sports collection is the jubilee. It would still be a great watch, but it would lose some of its charm for me.
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Old 3 April 2021, 04:46 PM   #63
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IF this is true - what will happen with resale on the current jubilees?
Through the roof due to such a short production run. Especially 126710BLRO
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Old 3 April 2021, 04:48 PM   #64
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GMT Master II’s Jubilee bracelet to be discontinued and replaced with Oyster

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My guess would be a new Submariner model...

For Rolex to revert the GMT II bracelet back to the Oyster so soon might be seen as akin to admitting it was a mistake.....

When did Rolex ever admit to a mistake..... this would weaken the brand, no?

I agree. I don’t think the GMT will see any change, too soon. Every scene in the teaser hint to a new Explorer.


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Old 3 April 2021, 05:56 PM   #65
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The teaser video is for the new Explorer 2 -> Cyclops is visible, Brushed clasp, Twinlock crown and Mountain in the background. GMTs have a triplock crown so clearly the watch in the video is not a new GMT. May make sense if they upsize all GMTs to the new 41mm case shape like the subs with thinner lugs. Would hate to see the jubilee bracelets discontinued though.
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Old 3 April 2021, 06:11 PM   #66
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GMT Master II SS moving from Jubilee to a fully brushed Oyster bracelet. That's my best guess.
For me, that would be the perfect combination.

Seems a bit soon after the SS BLRO, let alone the current BLNR. A short time frame for a Rolex model, but not unheard of.
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Old 3 April 2021, 06:12 PM   #67
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Why speculate we will all know in less than a week.
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Old 3 April 2021, 07:48 PM   #68
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I think more people prefer the Oyster over the Jubilee, so if anything, we might see demand for the Jubilee drop?
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Old 3 April 2021, 10:20 PM   #69
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I think more people prefer the Oyster over the Jubilee, so if anything, we might see demand for the Jubilee drop?
Assuming they keep the BLNR color scheme, the only thing that would drop is the BLNR on Oyster but like most I doubt the GMT changes at all.

My guess is changes to Explorer, Cellini and less likely Daytona. Most of the other models have been updated recently- maybe Sea Dweller too? Fun to speculate.
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Old 3 April 2021, 10:39 PM   #70
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I think more people prefer the Oyster over the Jubilee, so if anything, we might see demand for the Jubilee drop?

I did until I got my blro. Now I rarely wear my blnr. The jubilee is far more comfortable. But alas I think Mr Goldberg is way off as all watch components shown in the teaser are obviously the Explorer2. This year she’s the Belle of the ball


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Old 3 April 2021, 11:07 PM   #71
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I did until I got my blro. Now I rarely wear my blnr. The jubilee is far more comfortable. But alas I think Mr Goldberg is way off as all watch components shown in the teaser are obviously the Explorer2. This year she’s the Belle of the ball


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Agree. Yet he said he had it on good authority from a Rolex insider. Who knows?
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Old 3 April 2021, 11:43 PM   #72
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So a dog trainer on youtube is now the authority on Rolex. Please.
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Old 3 April 2021, 11:48 PM   #73
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So a dog trainer on youtube is now the authority on Rolex. Please.
He is the first and the only one that predicted exactly what happened last year. The videos are still there if you want to check.
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Old 3 April 2021, 11:48 PM   #74
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So a dog trainer on youtube is now the authority on Rolex. Please.

Seems proportional to the authority given to certain political leaders.
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Old 4 April 2021, 12:38 AM   #75
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I think more people prefer the Oyster over the Jubilee, so if anything, we might see demand for the Jubilee drop?
Try to buy one at MSRP
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Old 4 April 2021, 03:16 AM   #76
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According to Marc Goldberg, both the Batgirl and Pepsi are to come in Oyster bracelet only and the jubilee will be discontinued.

He predicted the 41mm Sub spot on last year so should be taken seriously me thinks.

If it were to be true, do you think the prices pf those reference skyrocket, considering the relatively short production span of 3 years?


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Old 4 April 2021, 03:52 AM   #77
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According to Marc Goldberg, both the Batgirl and Pepsi are to come in Oyster bracelet only and the jubilee will be discontinued.
As someone who absolutely hates the jubilee, thank freaking goodness. Not that we'll have an easier time getting any of these pieces — but aesthetically, the Oyster is where it's at.
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Old 4 April 2021, 03:59 AM   #78
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I don’t understand why people keep talking about the clasp being shown in the promo video. Am I missing something? That seems like the same class, or a variation of, that is currently on previous generations so why is this such a flag for people???!
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Old 4 April 2021, 04:03 AM   #79
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Also, why is it out of the realm of possibilities for them to offer both Jubilee and Oyster for the GMT? For SS and PM?

Has everyone forgotten the Jubilee full Everose GMT Rootbeer they debuted at Basel that never came out? I think they’ve always had plans to offer both band options.
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Old 4 April 2021, 04:48 AM   #80
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Old 5 April 2021, 01:24 PM   #81
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The best guess so far!
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Old 5 April 2021, 01:35 PM   #82
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The teaser video is for the new Explorer 2 -> Cyclops is visible, Brushed clasp, Twinlock crown and Mountain in the background. GMTs have a triplock crown so clearly the watch in the video is not a new GMT. May make sense if they upsize all GMTs to the new 41mm case shape like the subs with thinner lugs. Would hate to see the jubilee bracelets discontinued though.
I would agree that the teaser is all about the Explorer II, like someone said, she's the prom queen for 2021. The Batgirl is already debuted with the new movement so I doubt it'll receive another upgrade even if it's just the strap. Then again, who knows, maybe the Beagle trainer knows more than any of us.
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Old 5 April 2021, 02:16 PM   #83
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I never like to try and guess what Rolex is going to do. But this time I think they may be updating the GMT II case as they did with the Sub, 41mm with a lug width of 21mm. But who knows. Then that will do away with the maxi case on all the Professional models.
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Old 5 April 2021, 02:19 PM   #84
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I'm shocked this is still a mystery. How could Rolex telegraph it any more clearly for you?

Northern lights? Cave imagery? The enhanced photos showing the 24 hours bezel? 50th anniversary of the Explorer II? The fact people are debating this as anything other than the Explorer is odd. (to me).
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Old 5 April 2021, 04:32 PM   #85
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I'm shocked this is still a mystery. How could Rolex telegraph it any more clearly for you?

Northern lights? Cave imagery? The enhanced photos showing the 24 hours bezel? 50th anniversary of the Explorer II? The fact people are debating this as anything other than the Explorer is odd. (to me).
Last year's teaser was about two watches at the same time. It could be explorer and GMT bracelet this year just because it doesn't make sense to show the oyster clasp at the end. Plus this guy, Marc, is the only one that predicted the 41mm sub months before it's announcement last year.
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Last year's teaser was about two watches at the same time. It could be explorer and GMT bracelet this year just because it doesn't make sense to show the oyster clasp at the end. Plus this guy, Marc, is the only one that predicted the 41mm sub months before it's announcement last year.

How far in advance did he actually predict 41mm specifically. Everyone knew sub would be replaced. I don’t recall him mentioning 41mm until it was already leaking out to the general public


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Old 5 April 2021, 05:18 PM   #87
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How far in advance did he actually predict 41mm specifically. Everyone knew sub would be replaced. I don’t recall him mentioning 41mm until it was already leaking out to the general public


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Four to five months in advance he posted two videos. One saying that the hulk is discontinued and another one showing a leaked picture of the exact 41mm sub. They are still in his channel in case you want to check, uploaded in May 2020. I remember everyone was making fun of him at that time about both predictions that where actually leaks from his source, and in fact 100% correct.
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Four to five months in advance he posted two videos. One saying that the hulk is discontinued and another one showing a leaked picture of the exact 41mm sub. They are still in his channel in case you want to check, uploaded in May 2020. I remember everyone was making fun of him at that time about both predictions that where actually leaks from his source.

Yes, this is true, and I have to confess. I was one of the folks who made fun of him. I admit I was wrong and he apparently has a legitimate inside source.


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Lies, damned lies, and statistics" is a phrase describing the persuasive power of numbers, particularly the use of statistics to bolster weak arguments. Or
Goldberg trying to increase his you tube ratings
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Yes, this is true, and I have to confess. I was one of the folks who made fun of him. I admit I was wrong and he apparently has a legitimate inside source.


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that's right, so I think there's at least 50% chance that the jubilee pepsi will be discontinued in 2 days time!
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