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Old 26 August 2019, 12:51 AM   #1
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Regulating a watch at RSC

Just curious, if I wanted to have my GMT regulated at the RSC in NYC, how long would a watch typically need to be left there for that service?

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Old 26 August 2019, 01:09 AM   #2
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Just curious, if I wanted to have my GMT regulated at the RSC in NYC, how long would a watch typically need to be left there for that service?

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Well in the real world regulation is the most task that any watchmaker performs takes around 30-40 minutes.But if done by the RSC depending on there work load expect 3-4 weeks before watch is returned.By how much is your watch out of spec is just a few seconds or is it more.
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Old 26 August 2019, 01:22 AM   #3
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Not NYC mind you, but my 126710BLRO took approx 5 weeks to get regulated at the Toronto RSC. Their service standard for an adjustment is 6 weeks with a full movement service at 8 weeks.
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Old 26 August 2019, 02:12 AM   #4
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My most recent movement service at Dallas RSC took 4 weeks door to door.
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Old 26 August 2019, 02:15 AM   #5
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Just curious, if I wanted to have my GMT regulated at the RSC in NYC, how long would a watch typically need to be left there for that service?

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What is the deviation? If a few seconds, is regulation worth being without your watch for several weeks?
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Old 26 August 2019, 02:31 AM   #6
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Thanks for the replies. I'm tracking it now, and I'm somewhere between -1.7 to -2sec a day. If it goes over -2, then I will think about getting it serviced. But I am going on a trip in Oct, and would like to have this watch with me, which is why I'm wondering how long the service will take.

I know -2sec is probably insignificant, but personally, I don't like my watches running slower. In fact, my SD4K is about +3.6 per day, and I have no plans to have that regulated. I would take +4 over -2 any day.
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Old 26 August 2019, 02:50 AM   #7
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Thanks for the replies. I'm tracking it now, and I'm somewhere between -1.7 to -2sec a day. If it goes over -2, then I will think about getting it serviced. But I am going on a trip in Oct, and would like to have this watch with me, which is why I'm wondering how long the service will take.

I know -2sec is probably insignificant, but personally, I don't like my watches running slower. In fact, my SD4K is about +3.6 per day, and I have no plans to have that regulated. I would take +4 over -2 any day.

Yeah I wouldn't touch it given the small deviation but you gotta do what you gotta do. Be aware any time the case is opened other issues can be introduced.
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Old 26 August 2019, 04:01 AM   #8
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The San Francisco RSC (RIP, although they're still there independently) took two weeks with my GMT under warranty. It doesn't take long to actually do the regulation, but the RSC keeps it for a minimum period to track the ongoing accuracy before they'll sign off on it.
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Be aware any time the case is opened other issues can be introduced.
Very, very true.
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Old 26 August 2019, 06:38 AM   #10
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Avoid unnecessary opening of your watch case. Issues will arise which will essentially bother you more than few seconds off. Just FYI, my Sub is more accurate on my wrist than on a watch winder...
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Old 26 August 2019, 07:19 AM   #11
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Toronto RSC will allow you to wait for the regulation, I called and they said I could wait. Ran into an issue as I was not the original owner, so they had to keep it and it took them maybe 2 weeks not more.
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Old 26 August 2019, 07:38 AM   #12
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Your watch is fine and VERY accurate. Wear it in good health and enjoy it.
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Old 26 August 2019, 07:43 AM   #13
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Don’t worry about the -2 SPD, that’s keeping great time.
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Old 27 August 2019, 12:57 PM   #14
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Just an update...I tracked my watch a little more over the weekend. When I wore it continuously all day, which included a decent amount of spirited piano playing, I got a loss of -3.9sec/day. While resting it overnight, it got a deviation of 0 sec. So it seems like the more active I am, the more time it loses. If I rest it with the dial perfectly up, then I can make up a little bit of time with it.

I am still debating if I should get it serviced because I am not sure completely comfortable losing almost 4 sec/day by wearing it.
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Old 29 August 2019, 04:48 AM   #15
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After a few more days, I can definitely conclude that it is now losing about 4 sec/day with solid wear during the day. If I put it dial up overnight, I can stop the slowing down of it where it has no loss at all. When I first got the watch, I would lose about 1 sec/day, with a gain of 1-1.5sec when resting overnight. So it seem that it has lost the ability to gain any seconds back now, and running slower than before.

How many feel this is now worth having regulated? I just don't want it to get to the point of where it's losing 5-10 sec/day.
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Old 29 August 2019, 07:24 AM   #16
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Gaining seconds I can handle, but losing more than a couple is annoying. -5/day would be my absolute limit with any watch, but a Rolex under warranty, should be running slightly on the positive side. Only you can really determine what is a bigger bother; the loss of the seconds versus being without your watch for a few weeks.
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Old 29 August 2019, 07:51 AM   #17
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Regulating a watch at RSC

Losing time is annoying. My smurf was losing 4 seconds per day. I took it to my AD who is also a Rolex watchmaker. Took him about 10 minutes while I waited and it now runs +0.3 seconds per day. Perfect in my opinion.


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Old 29 August 2019, 08:24 AM   #18
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Losing time is annoying. My smurf was losing 4 seconds per day. I took it to my AD who is also a Rolex watchmaker. Took him about 10 minutes while I waited and it now runs +0.3 seconds per day. Perfect in my opinion.


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This is probably the best way to deal with it.

As long as it is consistent, let the watchmaker know what results you are seeing on wrist. On wrist is really the only performance that matters. If you are using a watch winder or just letting it sit for extended periods, your results will be skewed. In a resting position, face up or down will run the fastest. Crown up or crown down should run slower.

FYI, my DJ41 runs a little faster in the dial down position. I would try that before regulating. You could possibly gain a little more with the dial down to get into a sweet spot.

If not, have an AD watchmaker, or independent watchmaker tweak it a little.






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Old 30 August 2019, 11:49 AM   #19
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The San Francisco RSC (RIP, although they're still there independently) took two weeks with my GMT under warranty. It doesn't take long to actually do the regulation, but the RSC keeps it for a minimum period to track the ongoing accuracy before they'll sign off on it.
Is the SF RSC you're referring to the one inside Kern's in Burlingame?
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Old 30 August 2019, 02:04 PM   #20
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How many feel this is now worth having regulated? I just don't want it to get to the point of where it's losing 5-10 sec/day.


It is not worth regulating due to a 4 second per day loss. All that loss means is you’re off a minute every fortnight.

A watch’s accuracy won’t decay rapidly - it is affected by several factors. But the geartrain and free-spring balance is going the percolate consistently until something inside requires a service.

Quick question - when you rested the watch overnight, was it laid flat with the dial facing up?




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Old 30 August 2019, 02:33 PM   #21
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Is the SF RSC you're referring to the one inside Kern's in Burlingame?
There's a rather small list of official Rolex service centers. I think North America is now down to LA, Dallas, New York, Toronto, and Mexico City? There used to be one in downtown SF in the Shreve Building, a famous watchmaker building -- they're still there (and excellent) but no longer an official service center.

Kern's is definitely not an RSC, presumably just an authorized dealer with an on-site watchmaker.
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Old 30 August 2019, 05:33 PM   #22
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Just an update...I tracked my watch a little more over the weekend. When I wore it continuously all day, which included a decent amount of spirited piano playing, I got a loss of -3.9sec/day. While resting it overnight, it got a deviation of 0 sec. So it seems like the more active I am, the more time it loses. If I rest it with the dial perfectly up, then I can make up a little bit of time with it.

I am still debating if I should get it serviced because I am not sure completely comfortable losing almost 4 sec/day by wearing it.
Take my advice get rid of that tracking app before you get the deadly constant checking time syndrome, which looks like its already taken the enjoyment of wearing your Rolex watch.
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Old 31 August 2019, 03:34 AM   #24
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Thanks for the replies. Yep, I have been laying the watch flat at night with dial up. I have found that any slow deviation from this will also make the watch run slow. If the dial is not perfectly straight up in the air, it loses time. Previously, I could gain about 1 sec a day with it face up, but not anymore.
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