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Old 7 July 2018, 05:23 AM   #61
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I have yet to throw a bitch fit.
He told me his story. I hear him and I am willing to wait.
Giving him more time to get it sorted out.

But time and time again, nothing was done and I haven't see anything except his calls to me to assure me about him being trustworthy.

he told me he's returning me part of the money by paying me from his own pocket which he should have (he sounded like he's doing me a favor go assure me).

Very disappointed

Monday, i will release everything. screenshots, bank accounts, chat log and his photo from his whatsapp picture.

Mike - if you're reading this, please, do me and yourself a favour, return my money and i will call it a day. there's no point playing games.
I don't like games and i don't like exposing any of your personal info online but if it's the last straw, yes i will. please don't make me do that.
Yes, when I searched for his name, it's too broad. Need to include his phone number, addresss, etc so that employers or anyone else can link his name to this crime. He is going to throw his life away, but it's his choice. The FBI and law enforcement will dig up dirt once they start investigation on him.

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Old 7 July 2018, 06:42 AM   #62
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*latest update*

Mike just sent me a screen shot of a wire of $2700 USD first. At about 1.5 hours ago.
He didn't do the first wire i guess.

The name that he typed may not match my bank records.
Will call the bank and verify.

another $5800 USD to go.
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Old 7 July 2018, 06:45 AM   #63
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Does not matter that you are not a citizen. You can report this to any law enforcement agency that will listen.
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Not at all. You appear to be a trusting person. Throwing a fit will elevate your BP and elevate your cortisol.
i don't see a point to rage yet, at least there's hope of money back. I rather maintain a optimistic POV to know that my money are coming back.

However, my patience is getting real thin right now.

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If you can contact him, test him. If his story is legit he'll appreciate any efforts you can make to pressurize the AD. Ultimately his business is with the AD using your cash. You need to know who his contact is at the AD, proof that funds were paid, a copy of the contract/receipt for the payment stating what the monies were being used for ie specific make and model watch in X condition with or w/ou box and papers.
Right now, i am not even sure if its a AD or his watch broker.

He also just told me that his watch broker may have screw him over.
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Old 7 July 2018, 06:55 AM   #64
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Right now, i am not even sure if its a AD or his watch broker.

He also just told me that his watch broker may have screw him over.
At this point I wouldn't believe a word he says. What happened to the $4k he promised to wire earlier in the week?
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Old 7 July 2018, 06:57 AM   #65
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*latest update*

Mike just sent me a screen shot of a wire of $2700 USD first. At about 1.5 hours ago.
He didn't do the first wire i guess.

The name that he typed may not match my bank records.
Will call the bank and verify.

another $5800 USD to go.
lies after lies.... I can guarantee you that he never wired the money to AD...and now "his broker" LOL.... I wouldn't care less what his side of the story, He needs to pay you back in full...even if he needs to borrow it from the bank or sell the new car he just bought with your money.

Anyhow, it's up to you how you want to handle it.
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Old 7 July 2018, 08:28 AM   #66
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I think our help has pretty much run the gamut on this scammer who stole your funds.

Further optimism is likely futile as to whether you’re ever going to see the funds. If it serves the horological community to make your official crime reports public, please feel free. But that appears to be the only route open now.


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Old 7 July 2018, 08:35 AM   #67
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Well, it might have cost you $8000+ to go to school, but learn you did and you might have saved a soul or two along the way.


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If you can keep this person engaged, it is obvious that he does not have the capital to pay you back ipso facto. Maybe you can set up a payment plan that will allow you to recoup your money over the long haul?

Say $500 x month?
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Old 7 July 2018, 08:46 AM   #68
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*latest update*

Mike just sent me a screen shot of a wire of $2700 USD first. At about 1.5 hours ago.
He didn't do the first wire i guess.

The name that he typed may not match my bank records.
Will call the bank and verify.

another $5800 USD to go.
Date of wire?
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Old 7 July 2018, 08:53 AM   #69
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This guy likely doesn't have the cash or the watch. Time for the authorities.
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Old 7 July 2018, 01:13 PM   #70
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Just seeing this... ****, sorry man

I’ve dealt with Gaoxing84 on multiple transactions, he’s a good dude!

This sucks, honest opinion; get proof of the wire from the bank. 3 way call his bank, you make the call, have him verify the wire on that call. If he won’t do that or the wire isn’t on the way, you need to call the cops now. International wire fraud, I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure there is a serious felony in there somewhere.

Where is he located? If he’s in NY/NJ shoot me a text and I’d be happy to help.
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Old 7 July 2018, 01:28 PM   #71
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This loser is in Chicago
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Old 7 July 2018, 02:06 PM   #72
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This loser is in Chicago
Six Michael Le in Chicago area....just need a phone number or address.
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Old 8 July 2018, 07:25 AM   #73
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lies after lies.... I can guarantee you that he never wired the money to AD...and now "his broker" LOL.... I wouldn't care less what his side of the story, He needs to pay you back in full...even if he needs to borrow it from the bank or sell the new car he just bought with your money.

Anyhow, it's up to you how you want to handle it.
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This guy likely doesn't have the cash or the watch. Time for the authorities.
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Just seeing this... ****, sorry man

I’ve dealt with Gaoxing84 on multiple transactions, he’s a good dude!

This sucks, honest opinion; get proof of the wire from the bank. 3 way call his bank, you make the call, have him verify the wire on that call. If he won’t do that or the wire isn’t on the way, you need to call the cops now. International wire fraud, I’m not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure there is a serious felony in there somewhere.

Where is he located? If he’s in NY/NJ shoot me a text and I’d be happy to help.
yes it is. he's in chicago but he says he goes around for work.
I have no idea which AD or Broker he is working with.

1) He told me it was in process (assuming $4,000 from the first call he made to me on Sunday (1st of July).
2) Gave him my full wire information
3) He told me he's on to it and have the wire done on Tuesday (3rd of July)
4) He told me its in process on Wednesday (4th of July, which is a holiday)
5) No contact made from him till he called me on Friday (6th of July) when i asked for confirmation screenshot or proof.
6) He told me he's going to get it and send me.
7) Only in the early morning of Saturday (7th of July, my time here in Singapore), i received this attached photo of the wire being, a total of $2,700 and he told me he's going have another $2,700 sent out on following Monday)
8) Called my bank on Saturday (7th of July, bank told me that there is no pending funds incoming, if its done 1 day before, they should see funds pending).
9) Shot him a text and told him, my name and address that he keyed into the wire details are incorrect and it doesn't match my bank record.
He told me he didn't received any rejection notification and he's going to check.

that's the last contact i have with him.

this is the photo that he sent me.
My name is incorrect because is not my full name as per my bank records.
Address is wrong too, the first line is correct but not the second line.

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Old 8 July 2018, 07:43 AM   #74
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Call the authorities ASAP. This is ridiculous. Unless you don’t care to ever get your $$ back...
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Old 8 July 2018, 07:51 AM   #75
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Call your bank and see if the confirmation code 235983180 is valid.
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Old 8 July 2018, 09:02 AM   #76
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Call the authorities ASAP. This is ridiculous. Unless you don’t care to ever get your $$ back...
This deal is not simple. OP is in Singapore and the other guy is in USA.
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Old 8 July 2018, 12:37 PM   #77
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Sorry to hear of your experience.

Are the shown last 3 digits of your account number correct? If the account number and name/address do not match the payment may be put in an exception queue by your bank for handling. If the differences are minor e.g they are still able to make out you are their customer and which account it goes to they will likely still credit to your account. Otherwise they will reject and inform the sender’s bank they can’t credit. It can take a few days before the sender is informed.

As a bro above suggested, check with your bank with the details and confirmation code.

It seems rather weird that he made such mistakes given that he refunded you before and should have you added as a bank payee. Hope it is not another farce to stall for time.

Good luck.
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Old 8 July 2018, 12:46 PM   #78
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His lack of follow up is concerning.
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Old 8 July 2018, 01:50 PM   #79
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This deal is not simple. OP is in Singapore and the other guy is in USA.
Yep, fully understood. However, if I’m in the US and my seller is in Singapore, and pulling this on me..I’m calling the authorities in Singapore. $8K is worth my time.
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Old 8 July 2018, 02:58 PM   #80
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Michael Le AKA Goldcoastwatches - Anyone knows him personally? Need your help

I find it funny this Michael Le doesn’t want to explain his situation to this thread. After all he is a member on this forum.

I still don’t get it. OP gave Michael 8000 in full and we see a screen shot for $2700? I expect $8000 in full return.

Did he ever show proof he sent the money to AD or so called broker like he stated? Or just another lie?

OP there are different ways to handle your situation but at the end of the day, it’s up to you how you want to resolve the issue.
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No proof and no clarification of who the AD was suppling the watch? Some mighty strange purchasing decisions being made these days.
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Old 8 July 2018, 04:22 PM   #82
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Sorry to hear of your experience.

Are the shown last 3 digits of your account number correct? If the account number and name/address do not match the payment may be put in an exception queue by your bank for handling. If the differences are minor e.g they are still able to make out you are their customer and which account it goes to they will likely still credit to your account. Otherwise they will reject and inform the sender’s bank they can’t credit. It can take a few days before the sender is informed.

As a bro above suggested, check with your bank with the details and confirmation code.

It seems rather weird that he made such mistakes given that he refunded you before and should have you added as a bank payee. Hope it is not another farce to stall for time.

Good luck.
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Call your bank and see if the confirmation code 235983180 is valid.

the way of ibanking works alittle different in the USA and Singapore.
I called the Singapore bank, they say everything have to match entirely before funds will be accepted.
its normal as when i do wiring to the states, everything have to match.
I have got rejected funds from the bank because there's a missing comma or something.
it's very sensitive as it involves money.

yes, Kman, i have dealt with him many times and he did refund me money when i send it twice erroneously.
so i have no idea what's going on with him. it's ok to reply alittle slower but ensure you walk the talk and do the things that you promised.
so far, i have seen nothing yet.

here's another screenshot he sent me and the transaction/confirmation matches with the other screenshot.
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Old 8 July 2018, 04:24 PM   #83
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I find it funny this Michael Le doesn’t want to explain his situation to this thread. After all he is a member on this forum.

I still don’t get it. OP gave Michael 8000 in full and we see a screen shot for $2700? I expect $8000 in full return.

Did he ever show proof he sent the money to AD or so called broker like he stated? Or just another lie?

OP there are different ways to handle your situation but at the end of the day, it’s up to you how you want to resolve the issue.
$8,500. he's paying out from his pocket and he's out of funds.
no proof was given to me that he have sent to AD or broker.

yes i know that, now that there's a screenshot of a first payment of $2,700 and it may get rejected, i will get him to send me again on monday.

i will keep yall updated on the situation.
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Old 8 July 2018, 04:25 PM   #84
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Yep, fully understood. However, if I’m in the US and my seller is in Singapore, and pulling this on me..I’m calling the authorities in Singapore. $8K is worth my time.
100%, there's a few gentlemen here who PM me asking if I need their help in the states. which i might need once things gets ugly.

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