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Mosco · 23 January 2010, 01:26 AM

Another highly suspect DSSD, including the source, being a 0 feedback ebayer with the user ID 'pawnshop01'

Here's the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Deep-Sea-D...item3ca9770047

What I don't like about this particular auction, besides the shady source is the following (there could be more, but the pics are, perhaps deliberately,

ty):

1) Larger than usual gap between the bracelet and the 2 o'clock lug

2) Wimpy-looking crown which is almost flush with the crown-guards. In the genuine article, even when fully tightened, the crown sticks out about 2mm, here it appears to protrude less than 1mm

3) Caseback font MAY BE off, again, hard to tell with the pics

4) NEVER have I seen such a sticker on the caseback, typically it is an all-clear sticker with the green crescent on one of the edges

5) Incorrect box (smaller than the DSSD's I have seen)

6) EXACT SAME packaging as the faulker I received last moth (see sticky) - meaning genuine papers (but no cert), burgundy tag - but no green tag.

Have a sneaking suspicion that if the pics were better, more ugliness would surface. Opinions?

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 01:45 AM

Need to get a closer look at the chapter ring engraving, thats the big give away on these Greg, but with those photos

Naples09 · 23 January 2010, 01:50 AM

I sent the seller an email to see if he would met me at the local watchmaker I use in Cleveland. Lets see what happens.

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naples09

I sent the seller an email to see if he would met me at the local watchmaker I use in Cleveland. Lets see what happens.

Nice one Jim

let the games begin

Mosco · 23 January 2010, 01:52 AM

Good idea, Jim! Keep posted.

Naples09 · 23 January 2010, 01:59 AM

Greg, you know more about the DSSD than I do...should the end links have a number on them? Because in the one pic they do not have a number on them.

Thanks.

Edit to add: I looked at your Beware thread and it seems the DSSD watch does not have numbered end links.

Mosco · 23 January 2010, 02:10 AM

BINGO!!!

Jim - you had me look closer at the back of the bracelet on the real thing. On the last pic of the suspect listing, there's some sort of engraving on the links NEXT to the endlinks. On the real thing - NADA!

The bracelet is definitely fake - what about the rest of the watch? I bet I know the answer

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

BINGO!!!

Jim - you had me look closer at the back of the bracelet on the real thing. On the last pic of the suspect listing, there's some sort of engraving on the links NEXT to the endlinks. On the real thing - NADA!

The bracelet is definitely fake - what about the rest of the watch? I bet I know the answer

Excellent!!! I'm loosing it a bit :-) 3am here, just finished work on a remote server so I might need to get some shuteye, tell me when and the can speaketh! :-)

Naples09 · 23 January 2010, 02:15 AM

I saw that too. That made me ask the question about the end links.

With that said, I'm not expecting a reply to my email!

Mosco · 23 January 2010, 02:52 AM

Verdict - FAULKER!

gt3pilot · 23 January 2010, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosco

BINGO!!!

Jim - you had me look closer at the back of the bracelet on the real thing. On the last pic of the suspect listing, there's some sort of engraving on the links NEXT to the endlinks. On the real thing - NADA!

The bracelet is definitely fake - what about the rest of the watch? I bet I know the answer

Yep. Just went back and looked at the pics, same thing I saw on one of the DSSD fakes at a buy shop here in Indy a month or so ago. Its the bracelet model # which obviously shouldn't be there. It was from the guy that's been selling them from Missouri to Fl.

-Scott B.

Mosco · 23 January 2010, 04:10 AM

Well, we have 5 days to pound ebay with requests to take it down. Let's get on 'em!

Naples09 · 23 January 2010, 04:12 AM

Sent a request about an hour ago.

Still no email reply from the seller.

gt3pilot · 23 January 2010, 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naples09

Sent a request about an hour ago.

Still no email reply from the seller.

+1

-Scott B.

Mosco · 23 January 2010, 07:58 AM

Proddy proddy....

BASSETHOUNDS · 23 January 2010, 08:15 AM

Your right Greg about the links , also what is that submariner booklet doing with it , the COSC tag is fake too . Red stripe clear sticker on case back ?

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 08:54 AM

onkyo · 23 January 2010, 09:00 AM

Great catch Greg .... time to get this

invalidated.

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 09:04 AM

Gone

This listing (260541186119) has been removed, or this item is not available.

cornerstore · 23 January 2010, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idk01

Gone

This listing (260541186119) has been removed, or this item is not available.

Rolex should be paying TRF a fee

cornerstore · 23 January 2010, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick09

Rolex should be paying TRF a fee

And EBay as well

Naples09 · 23 January 2010, 10:54 AM

Good job guys!

idk01 · 23 January 2010, 12:39 PM

I love it when a plan comes together!

23 January 2010, 01:26 AM	#1
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Not so sure about this one.... Another highly suspect DSSD, including the source, being a 0 feedback ebayer with the user ID 'pawnshop01' Here's the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Deep-Sea-D...item3ca9770047 What I don't like about this particular auction, besides the shady source is the following (there could be more, but the pics are, perhaps deliberately, ty): 1) Larger than usual gap between the bracelet and the 2 o'clock lug 2) Wimpy-looking crown which is almost flush with the crown-guards. In the genuine article, even when fully tightened, the crown sticks out about 2mm, here it appears to protrude less than 1mm 3) Caseback font MAY BE off, again, hard to tell with the pics 4) NEVER have I seen such a sticker on the caseback, typically it is an all-clear sticker with the green crescent on one of the edges 5) Incorrect box (smaller than the DSSD's I have seen) 6) EXACT SAME packaging as the faulker I received last moth (see sticky) - meaning genuine papers (but no cert), burgundy tag - but no green tag. Have a sneaking suspicion that if the pics were better, more ugliness would surface. Opinions? __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 01:45 AM	#2
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Need to get a closer look at the chapter ring engraving, thats the big give away on these Greg, but with those photos __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

23 January 2010, 01:52 AM	#5
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Good idea, Jim! Keep posted. __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 02:10 AM	#7
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	BINGO!!! Jim - you had me look closer at the back of the bracelet on the real thing. On the last pic of the suspect listing, there's some sort of engraving on the links NEXT to the endlinks. On the real thing - NADA! The bracelet is definitely fake - what about the rest of the watch? I bet I know the answer __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 02:52 AM	#10
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Verdict - FAULKER! __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 01:50 AM	#3
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	I sent the seller an email to see if he would met me at the local watchmaker I use in Cleveland. Lets see what happens.

23 January 2010, 01:59 AM	#6
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	Greg, you know more about the DSSD than I do...should the end links have a number on them? Because in the one pic they do not have a number on them. Thanks. Edit to add: I looked at your Beware thread and it seems the DSSD watch does not have numbered end links.

23 January 2010, 02:15 AM	#9
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	I saw that too. That made me ask the question about the end links. With that said, I'm not expecting a reply to my email!

23 January 2010, 04:10 AM	#12
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Well, we have 5 days to pound ebay with requests to take it down. Let's get on 'em! __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 04:12 AM	#13
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	Sent a request about an hour ago. Still no email reply from the seller.

23 January 2010, 07:58 AM	#15
Mosco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Greg Location: Cincinnati Watch: I like to... Posts: 18,567	Proddy proddy.... __________________ Instagram - @CaliberSwiss *“A man who procrastinates in his choosing will inevitably have his choice made for him by circumstance.” - Hunter S. Thompson*

23 January 2010, 08:15 AM	#16
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Your right Greg about the links , also what is that submariner booklet doing with it , the COSC tag is fake too . Red stripe clear sticker on case back ?

23 January 2010, 08:54 AM	#17
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	__________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

23 January 2010, 09:00 AM	#18
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	Great catch Greg .... time to get this invalidated.

23 January 2010, 09:04 AM	#19
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	Gone This listing (260541186119) has been removed, or this item is not available. __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

23 January 2010, 10:54 AM	#22
Naples09 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Jim Location: Naples, FL Posts: 1,795	Good job guys!

23 January 2010, 12:39 PM	#23
idk01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Dave Location: Australia Watch: DJ16233TT Posts: 18,485	I love it when a plan comes together! __________________ *Apprentice to Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth*

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