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AardTech · 6 October 2007, 05:51 PM

Spotted this on ebay yesterday when it was bid at a few hundred GBP.

Now it is substantially more than that. I'm no expert but this looks fake to me; here's why:

1. The second hand is fractionally too long.
2. Hologram sticker looks all wrong
3. Alignment of 1000ft/300m text above Superlative Chronometer is wrong
4. height of the hour markers are too tall
5. Crown guards dont look right
6. Box looks cheap and nasty
7. Cyclops bubble looks like it's shot to sh*t

Am I right or am I wrong? Answers on a postcard please...

If I'm right should this be reported to ebay before someone gets well and truly fleeced?

BiG JeEzY · 6 October 2007, 05:55 PM

I think the crown logo on the winding crown is not done correctly as well.

I think the watch is a replica too and the hour markers dont seem to look accurate for a maxi dial.

I say its a replica but other members of TRF will respond and add on their observations...

Destroy · 6 October 2007, 06:03 PM

Look at the size of the LEC!!!!!

AardTech · 6 October 2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroy

Look at the size of the LEC!!!!!

What's that?

vrolok · 6 October 2007, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AardTech

1. The second hand is fractionally too long.
2. Hologram sticker looks all wrong
3. Alignment of 1000ft/300m text above Superlative Chronometer is wrong
4. height of the hour markers are too tall
5. Crown guards dont look right
6. Box looks cheap and nasty
7. Cyclops bubble looks like it's shot to sh*t

all correct! it's a fake and not even of good quality. we should let ebay know of it.
cheers

Destroy · 6 October 2007, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AardTech

What's that?

Laser Etched Crown

AardTech · 6 October 2007, 06:24 PM

Ah ok. So, is that too big or too small? Also mine does not have this anyway - presumably this is only on a few models or is not done anymore?

mike · 6 October 2007, 07:08 PM

Nothing is right with that thing.

SPACE-DWELLER · 6 October 2007, 10:55 PM

Yet another FAKE

SPACE-DWELLER · 6 October 2007, 10:58 PM

Aw, yeah, for all it's worth, here is a nice link about FAKE and REAL Sub LV's:

"Interesting comparison between REAL and FAKE "LV" ". CLICK!

AardTech · 6 October 2007, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spacedweller

Aw, yeah, for all it's worth, here is a nice link about FAKE and REAL Sub LV's:

"Interesting comparison between REAL and FAKE "LV" ". CLICK!

Excellent link, thanks for pointing that out.

SPACE-DWELLER · 6 October 2007, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destroy

Look at the size of the LEC!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AardTech

What's that?

"Abbreviations". CLICK + scroll down!

timebroker · 6 October 2007, 11:54 PM

The whole front including bezel looks too bent (not flat enough) as well?

Rawhyde · 7 October 2007, 01:33 AM

Utter fake. It's GOTTA be bad for me to spot it from a pic! The hands are all wrong, a real LV will have the Maxi-dial hands (extra fat). It is packaged in the wrong box too!

I'm pretty east to fake out in pics, but I've yet to have a fake in my hand go undetected...

steve-o · 7 October 2007, 02:12 AM

Fake. LEC is way too big and easy to spot, Rolex symbol and three dots on crown look too big as well when compared to what is on my wrist.

Run Forest, Run.

pol · 7 October 2007, 03:09 AM

I agree, it looks pretty bad

. For me to be able to tell its gotta be pretty bad...either that or I'm getting a little better at looking at these watches from my time on the boards. Either way, I would avoid it like the plague.

txrob779 · 7 October 2007, 06:02 AM

This is easy, all good points made but the biggest give away is what the replica guys call the "rehaut"... or the "case depth"? The shape of we call "the chapter ring" is conical. It looks like two pieces, not a nice striaght cut ring. That and the thick wrong shaped crown guards give it away. Even if it is modded to correct the CG's, they cannot fix that chapter ring. The sad thing is, most average people will never know what WE as WIS's know.

Letsgodiving · 7 October 2007, 06:10 AM

That thing isn't even close. Also, the last 2 sales he has made, which are the only ones you can see, are for 2.00 pounds each. Now he sells a Rolex.

BLSampson · 7 October 2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Letsgodiving

That thing isn't even close. Also, the last 2 sales he has made, which are the only ones you can see, are for 2.00 pounds each. Now he sells a Rolex.

He was starting small to test the waters.

RolexUtopia · 7 October 2007, 06:43 AM

Some poor guy bought it for £670.00

timebroker · 7 October 2007, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLSampson

He was starting small to test the waters.

He will drown very soon if he keeps this up.

JJ Irani · 7 October 2007, 01:24 PM

Check the deep notch on the secure clasp opening. Way too exaggerated.

Here's the real thing....so that one's gotta be a fake!!

6 October 2007, 05:51 PM	#1
AardTech Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 67	The real thing? Or not? Spotted this on ebay yesterday when it was bid at a few hundred GBP. Now it is substantially more than that. I'm no expert but this looks fake to me; here's why: 1. The second hand is fractionally too long. 2. Hologram sticker looks all wrong 3. Alignment of 1000ft/300m text above Superlative Chronometer is wrong 4. height of the hour markers are too tall 5. Crown guards dont look right 6. Box looks cheap and nasty 7. Cyclops bubble looks like it's shot to sh*t Am I right or am I wrong? Answers on a postcard please... If I'm right should this be reported to ebay before someone gets well and truly fleeced?

6 October 2007, 05:55 PM	#2
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,350	I think the crown logo on the winding crown is not done correctly as well. I think the watch is a replica too and the hour markers dont seem to look accurate for a maxi dial. I say its a replica but other members of TRF will respond and add on their observations... __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

6 October 2007, 10:55 PM	#9
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Yet another FAKE __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

6 October 2007, 10:58 PM	#10
SPACE-DWELLER "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Bo Location: Denmark Watch: Rolex, of course! Posts: 22,436	Aw, yeah, for all it's worth, here is a nice link about FAKE and REAL Sub LV's: "Interesting comparison between REAL and FAKE "LV" ". CLICK! __________________ With kind regards, Bo LocTite 221: The Taming Of The Screw...

7 October 2007, 02:12 AM	#15
steve-o "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Real Name: Steve-O Location: Naplis, Merlin Watch: Blue TT Sub Posts: 857	Fake. LEC is way too big and easy to spot, Rolex symbol and three dots on crown look too big as well when compared to what is on my wrist. Run Forest, Run. __________________

6 October 2007, 06:03 PM	#3
Destroy Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: AJ Location: Australia Posts: 732	Look at the size of the LEC!!!!!

6 October 2007, 06:24 PM	#7
AardTech Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK Posts: 67	Ah ok. So, is that too big or too small? Also mine does not have this anyway - presumably this is only on a few models or is not done anymore?

6 October 2007, 07:08 PM	#8
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Nothing is right with that thing.

6 October 2007, 11:54 PM	#13
timebroker "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Filip Location: Belgium Posts: 1,619	The whole front including bezel looks too bent (not flat enough) as well?

7 October 2007, 01:33 AM	#14
Rawhyde Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Craig Location: NW Georgia Watch: Blue Sub+Tud Chron Posts: 834	Utter fake. It's GOTTA be bad for me to spot it from a pic! The hands are all wrong, a real LV will have the Maxi-dial hands (extra fat). It is packaged in the wrong box too! I'm pretty east to fake out in pics, but I've yet to have a fake in my hand go undetected...

7 October 2007, 03:09 AM	#16
pol "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Joe Location: Missouri, USA Watch: YG Day-Date/SS Sub Posts: 273	I agree, it looks pretty bad . For me to be able to tell its gotta be pretty bad...either that or I'm getting a little better at looking at these watches from my time on the boards. Either way, I would avoid it like the plague. __________________ Rolex...the only way to go...

7 October 2007, 06:02 AM	#17
txrob779 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Real Name: Rob Location: Ft.Worth, Texas Posts: 488	This is easy, all good points made but the biggest give away is what the replica guys call the "rehaut"... or the "case depth"? The shape of we call "the chapter ring" is conical. It looks like two pieces, not a nice striaght cut ring. That and the thick wrong shaped crown guards give it away. Even if it is modded to correct the CG's, they cannot fix that chapter ring. The sad thing is, most average people will never know what WE as WIS's know.

7 October 2007, 06:10 AM	#18
Letsgodiving "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Mike Location: Virginia, US Watch: SD 16600 Posts: 4,309	That thing isn't even close. Also, the last 2 sales he has made, which are the only ones you can see, are for 2.00 pounds each. Now he sells a Rolex.

7 October 2007, 06:43 AM	#20
RolexUtopia Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Randy Location: Scotland Posts: 44	Some poor guy bought it for £670.00

7 October 2007, 01:24 PM	#22
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,320	Check the deep notch on the secure clasp opening. Way too exaggerated. Here's the real thing....so that one's gotta be a fake!! __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

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