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Old 6 September 2016, 02:20 PM   #1
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Fake 16610LV

A 16610 LV with a green dial and lug holes!!




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Old 6 September 2016, 02:22 PM   #2
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Not fake, just aftermarket parts added to a 16610.
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Old 6 September 2016, 02:36 PM   #3
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Not fake, just aftermarket parts added to a 16610.
Franken = fake to me. Also, I didn't see it disclosed on the add that it was modified. So at best it's undisclosed Franken. At worst, it's fake. Either way, I wouldn't buy it. But I'd also not report it.
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Old 6 September 2016, 02:41 PM   #4
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Franken = fake to me. Also, I didn't see it disclosed on the add that it was modified. So at best it's undisclosed Franken. At worst, it's fake. Either way, I wouldn't buy it. But I'd also not report it.
If you look at the description they claim "customized" for the bezel and dial, which to someone who does not know what they are doing it is unfortunate if they buy it. I agree with you... Whatever you call it - Fake or aftermarket- same thing.
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Old 6 September 2016, 03:03 PM   #5
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Fake 16610LV

Custom crap and a poor job t25 dial come one. There is a difference between true aftermarket and fake, aftermarket has no trademarks on it. Adding a custom dial and bezel does not make a 16610 and lv


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Old 6 September 2016, 09:45 PM   #6
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Custom crap and a poor job t25 dial come one. There is a difference between true aftermarket and fake, aftermarket has no trademarks on it. Adding a custom dial and bezel does not make a 16610 and lv


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Old 7 September 2016, 01:36 AM   #7
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Ok I understand. I stand corrected. Not fake. Painful to look at though.
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Old 10 September 2016, 10:20 AM   #8
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really a shame,i don't understand why do this unless it had problems in the past and they had to change out bezel,dial,crystal etc...

BUT,i'd glady take it if it was cheap,and then i would buy a new dial and bezel...

if it's cheap and original,why not?
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Old 10 September 2016, 01:14 PM   #9
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BUT,i'd glady take it if it was cheap,and then i would buy a new dial and bezel...

if it's cheap and original,why not?
Therein lies the problem. These frankens are never cheap. They take a well used/worn 16610 that would normally sell for +/- $4000-$4500, slap a fake dial and bezel in it, do a quick/dirty polish job, label it as "custom", and jack the price up +/- $1000. Then they sell the original dial and bezel as well. The problem is that there are plenty of uninformed/uneducated buyers out there that eventually buy such abominations. Sigh...
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Old 11 September 2016, 12:09 PM   #10
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Therein lies the problem. These frankens are never cheap. They take a well used/worn 16610 that would normally sell for +/- $4000-$4500, slap a fake dial and bezel in it, do a quick/dirty polish job, label it as "custom", and jack the price up +/- $1000. Then they sell the original dial and bezel as well. The problem is that there are plenty of uninformed/uneducated buyers out there that eventually buy such abominations. Sigh...
yes,you're absolutely right,it probably had a full service done to it,and they changed hands,dial,crystal,bezel,i can't say why,maybe it fell really hard,got run over,smashed by a hammer,who knows!

thing is,it's hard to pay this amount for a watch without any of the history behind it...

it's not rare,nor special,or in good shape (as you can see from the crown on the clasp,probably polished 3-4 time already

if it was a 2k watch,i'd def consider buying and wearing it proudly,but for this price? hell no.

you are also right when you say they sell the original dial and bezel insert,and you can see this happens all the time with tt datejusts,day-dates and etc.
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Old 13 September 2016, 01:25 AM   #11
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It won't be accepted by RSC for servicing.
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