Fake Patek Philippe Nautilus and also fake vintage Blancpain 50 Fathoms Aqualung

[watchluvr]

I tried looking in watches, parts, and accessories on ebay and came up with a couple real beauties.



http://ebay.to/2qvdBGa

shows the fake Patek and scroll down a little further to see the fake vintage Blancpain

I have reported both now.

[Tony64]

At least it's advertised as "replica" and priced accordingly.

Still a violation of eBay rules and good that you reported.

Unlike many of these guys though, he doesn't seem to be trying to deceive.
You did, afterall, use "replica" as your search term... and you found it.

[Cryten]

"extremely rare replica"

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by Cryten

"extremely rare replica"

Yes, but "extremely rare" is a salesmanship superlative that's often applied to authentic items as well. It's not exactly true, but I suppose it's inherently subjective enough that I've learned to just roll my eyes and move on when I hear it.

This was a replica/fake, searched for as such, and described accurately as such.

A violation of eBay (and perhaps federal/state) laws, but not overtly trying to deceive. Therefore nothing to actually "watch out" for unless that's what you're looking for.

[watchluvr]

Originally Posted by Tony64

At least it's advertised as "replica" and priced accordingly.

Still a violation of eBay rules and good that you reported.

Unlike many of these guys though, he doesn't seem to be trying to deceive.
You did, afterall, use "replica" as your search term... and you found it.

Did you see the Blancpain Aqualung 50 Fathoms? That one could easily fool someone down the road. That one is a danger to society.

[watchluvr]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Yes, but "extremely rare" is a salesmanship superlative that's often applied to authentic items as well. It's not exactly true, but I suppose it's inherently subjective enough that I've learned to just roll my eyes and move on when I hear it.

This was a replica/fake, searched for as such, and described accurately as such.

A violation of eBay (and perhaps federal/state) laws, but not overtly trying to deceive. Therefore nothing to actually "watch out" for unless that's what you're looking for.

So here it is more a matter of finding fakes that are being sold as legit rather than fakes that are sold as fakes. Got it.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Tony64

At least it's advertised as "replica" and priced accordingly.

Still a violation of eBay rules and good that you reported.

Unlike many of these guys though, he doesn't seem to be trying to deceive.
You did, afterall, use "replica" as your search term... and you found it.

Counterfeits are counterfeits and they are illegal and counter to everything that is good and decent.

There's no justifying any involvement with these abominations whatsoever.

Both Reported.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by watchluvr

So here it is more a matter of finding fakes that are being sold as legit rather than fakes that are sold as fakes. Got it.

Well in general we don't discuss fakes here, except as a warning to prevent someone from being scammed.

Anyone fooled by that listing into thinking they would receive an authentic Patek is simply unable to read. Literacy isn't a service this forum provides.

Still good that you alerted eBay as it violates their policy.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Counterfeits are counterfeits and they are illegal and counter to everything that is good and decent.

There's no justifying any involvement with these abominations whatsoever.

Both Reported.

Agreed and not attempting to justify. Just not sure what the "watch out" value would be?

The OP searched for "replica" and found one.
No one being fooled, and that's what we're trying to prevent right? Unless we're going to try to take down the entire replica industry. I'm with you either way, but we've got a lot of work to do if that's our goal.

As I said, good that it was reported. eBay should never have allowed its listing.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Tony64

As I said, good that it was reported. eBay should never have allowed its listing.

I should note that the term replica is not the problem. There are many replicas on ebay that are not in violation of any laws, because they do not include any brand names and therefore are not counterfeit.

What we are doing here is pointing out to ebay the counterfeit watches that are a bane to legitimate watch enthusiasts and watch manufactures alike.

It is then up to ebay to take action.

Beyond that, it's just a matter of decency.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by watchluvr

Did you see the Blancpain Aqualung 50 Fathoms? That one could easily fool someone down the road. That one is a danger to society.

Didn't waste my time on it, but again it's clearly listed as "replica".

The only one being fooled is someone who either doesn't read, or doesn't understand what "replica" means. How it gets represented down the road is impossible for me to conjecture.

To be clear, these fakes/replicas/counterfeits should not exist, but they do and likely always will as long as people search for them.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

I should note that the term replica is not the problem. There are many replicas on ebay that are not in violation of any laws, because they do not include any brand names and therefore are not counterfeit.

What we are doing here is pointing out to ebay the counterfeit watches that are a bane to legitimate watch enthusiasts and watch manufactures alike.

It is then up to ebay to take action.

Beyond that, it's just a matter of decency.

Admittedly I'm not an expert on eBay rules and regs and may have been out of line in asserting what is and isn't allowed.

I think the guys that frequent this section do a great job at identifying fakes and preventing folks from getting taken. All I'm trying to say is that anyone who wins this auction is knowingly buying a fake. They are beyond help.

[Tony64]

Originally Posted by watchluvr

So here it is more a matter of finding fakes that are being sold as legit rather than fakes that are sold as fakes. Got it.

If we start linking to every site openly selling fake watches it won't serve any purpose and I think would violate forum rules and decorum.

Report to eBay, but let's not waste bandwidth with self-described and clearly labeled fake/replica/counterfeit watches here. That's my vote and that's the last I'll comment on the subject.

[watchluvr]

Originally Posted by Tony64

Didn't waste my time on it, but again it's clearly listed as "replica".

The only one being fooled is someone who either doesn't read, or doesn't understand what "replica" means. How it gets represented down the road is impossible for me to conjecture.

To be clear, these fakes/replicas/counterfeits should not exist, but they do and likely always will as long as people search for them.

I am thinking of the people who are fooled by the buyer of the replica into thinking that is the quality of a legit Rolex, etc. and the possibility that the watch could be sold down the road as a legit watch.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Counterfeits are counterfeits and they are illegal and counter to everything that is good and decent.

There's no justifying any involvement with these abominations whatsoever.

Both Reported.

x2! How very dare they.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by Tony64

If we start linking to every site openly selling fake watches it won't serve any purpose and I think would violate forum rules and decorum.

Report to eBay, but let's not waste bandwidth with self-described and clearly labeled fake/replica/counterfeit watches here. That's my vote and that's the last I'll comment on the subject.

I'm not sure why you're on this soapbox.

If this thread is in violation of any rules, then I believe that a duly authorized moderator would have weighed in by now.

EBay has the mechanism in place to report counterfeits and reporting them is what we do.

It's what we've always done here for as long as I've been aboard.

I don't think there's a problem here.

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[eelpie]

Patek removed