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JoeyT · 18 July 2015, 02:28 PM

So I recently sold an omega on eBay. The buyer stated it was a gift and gave me the address to send the watch too (my first mistake, I know I should had only sent it to PayPal verified address) I shipped the watch with insurance/signature confirmation required. The watch got to the address but no one was able to sign for it, several redilivered attempts were made and then as of 3 days ago, the tracking number stopped progressing. Then out of the blue, PayPal awards the buyer a full refund without my knowledge. So now I'm out the cash and the watch. I'm going to try my hardest to figure it out with the post office in the hopes they can stop the delivery of the package and send it back. I did some digging on the "buyer" and found he is a 56 year old priest in WI, I called him and we spoke. Supposedly he feels his identity was stolen because he didn't make the purchases. Well I ran a background check and he used to live in Philadelphia, the same town that the eBay buyer requested I ship the watch too as a gift for someone. It all seems fishy and now I'm afraid I'm out the cash and my omega. Any advice?

Presa canary · 18 July 2015, 02:33 PM

Don't respond to the Nigeria dudes offering you 500,000k for a measly $7500 down payment....

JoeyT · 18 July 2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Presa canary

Don't respond to the Nigeria dudes offering you 500,000k for a measly $7500 down payment....

Haha I wonder who falls for crap like that. When I used to rent, I searched renting websites for decent apartments and at least once a day I got an email form a "homeowner" who would say something along the lines of "I'm in Nigeria on a rescue mission for poor children, I'm not sure how long I will be so I'm looking to find someone to rent my house and take care of it while I'm gone. You can drive by and see the property but in order to be taken inside the reality company requires a security deposit" blah blah blah it's a bunch of Bologna. I'm usually good at catching scams but this one caught me off guard

zhleez · 18 July 2015, 03:05 PM

I don't quite get the part 'several redilivered attempts were made and then as of 3 days ago, the tracking number stopped progressing'. Is the item still with the post office or someone has signed it off? If it is the latter, then there should be a scanned copy of proof of delivery which can be obtained from the post office. This is what I can get from my country. You can show paypal the proof of delivery and the correspondence between you and the buyer on the requested delivery address and there is no reason paypal will not award in your favour.

crowncollection · 18 July 2015, 05:27 PM

If you did not ship to verified address shown in PayPal no seller protection applies. Pretty harsh, but it's in the policy as far as I know, I wish you the best of luck. Start by getting copy of delivery etc the matter is one of fraud and the police may need to come into play IMHO.

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JoeyT · 20 July 2015, 12:28 PM

Sorry I have not updated the situation but it's pretty interesting. So I found the contact information for the supposed "buyer". I gave him a call to see what's going on and he had no idea a watch was purchased in his name. We had a long conversation and it was determined that his identity must be compromised because there were multiple purchases on his credit card that he was not aware of. I immediately contacted USPS to find out what's going on with the package and here is where things get cooky. The mailman refused to deliver the package because the recipients ID did not match the package. The crook then got furious and verbally assualted the mailman (all this was told to me when I contacted the post office directly) so the crook attempted to go online and schedule redilivered multiple times but the post office did not release the package because they had a feeling something was wrong. I was very happy to learn that the manager of the post office had the package on his desk and once we spoke it was concluded that the package was going to be shipped back!!!!! So tomorrow I will get my omega back. Lesson learned, never ship to a different address, and stay away from selling on eBay because they are very one sided towards the buyer. Thanks all for your support

Andad · 20 July 2015, 12:38 PM

Buy a lottery ticket Joey, it's your lucky day.

JoeyT · 20 July 2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

Buy a lottery ticket Joey, it's your lucky day.

That's a good idea!!! And if I win I would go out and buy another speedy. This time a vintage

bankerX · 20 July 2015, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directioneng

Buy a lottery ticket Joey, it's your lucky day.

+1

You got lucky ...Be careful next time!

bdex75 · 20 July 2015, 01:59 PM

Skirted disaster there. Glad you will get your watch back and I hope the guy that stole the priests gets what he has coming.

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kronograf · 20 July 2015, 03:30 PM

PayPal Verified Address and signature required (cost only extra $2) that's what I normally do. Glad to hear that you got your watch back.

crowncollection · 20 July 2015, 06:09 PM

Good news

MonBK · 20 July 2015, 06:20 PM

Great.

hunterp27 · 21 July 2015, 12:42 AM

That's luckier than a three peckered dog. Good for you and I hope the criminal gets snared by the officials. Definitely go purchase a lottery ticket.

bayerische · 21 July 2015, 01:06 AM

Awesome outcome! Now the Police should take interest and put this scammer in jail where he belongs.

roadsterdoc · 23 July 2015, 05:44 AM

I'm glad it worked out for you. I'd like to know how PayPal refunded the payment if it was sent as a gift. Especially without notification.

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123Blueface · 23 July 2015, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by roadsterdoc

I'm glad it worked out for you. I'd like to know how PayPal refunded the payment if it was sent as a gift. Especially without notification.

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They didn't.
He got the watch he shipped back via a smart postal service mailman.

jhcam8 · 23 July 2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by roadsterdoc

I'm glad it worked out for you. I'd like to know how PayPal refunded the payment if it was sent as a gift. Especially without notification.

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The buyer said it was a gift. He didn't send a PP gift payment, apparently.

Good one, Joey.

Knappo 1307 · 23 July 2015, 09:09 AM

Once the watch is back, I'd send the postman a little something. He saved you.....

gbx · 23 July 2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

Once the watch is back, I'd send the postman a little something. He saved you.....

Definitely! I'd call the manager you spoke with and ask him for the mailing address and information of the person he reports to. Then send a well-written thank-you letter about the employees involved. These go a long way in many circumstances and most employees will happily give up their supervisors information if they know a letter of commendation is coming.

Runfar · 23 July 2015, 10:42 AM

Wow you are definitely so lucky and agree send something that man saved you and that priest needs to go to confession

toneafficianado · 23 July 2015, 10:47 AM

A happy ending is so rare with a story like this! Congrats.

18 July 2015, 02:28 PM	#1
JoeyT Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 221	eBay/PayPal scam. So I recently sold an omega on eBay. The buyer stated it was a gift and gave me the address to send the watch too (my first mistake, I know I should had only sent it to PayPal verified address) I shipped the watch with insurance/signature confirmation required. The watch got to the address but no one was able to sign for it, several redilivered attempts were made and then as of 3 days ago, the tracking number stopped progressing. Then out of the blue, PayPal awards the buyer a full refund without my knowledge. So now I'm out the cash and the watch. I'm going to try my hardest to figure it out with the post office in the hopes they can stop the delivery of the package and send it back. I did some digging on the "buyer" and found he is a 56 year old priest in WI, I called him and we spoke. Supposedly he feels his identity was stolen because he didn't make the purchases. Well I ran a background check and he used to live in Philadelphia, the same town that the eBay buyer requested I ship the watch too as a gift for someone. It all seems fishy and now I'm afraid I'm out the cash and my omega. Any advice?

18 July 2015, 05:27 PM	#5
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	If you did not ship to verified address shown in PayPal no seller protection applies. Pretty harsh, but it's in the policy as far as I know, I wish you the best of luck. Start by getting copy of delivery etc the matter is one of fraud and the police may need to come into play IMHO. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

20 July 2015, 12:38 PM	#7
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,792	Buy a lottery ticket Joey, it's your lucky day. __________________ E

20 July 2015, 01:59 PM	#10
bdex75 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Real Name: Brandon Location: Indianapolis Watch: my money vanish Posts: 8,506	eBay/PayPal scam. Skirted disaster there. Glad you will get your watch back and I hope the guy that stole the priests gets what he has coming. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 July 2015, 06:09 PM	#12
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Good news __________________ watches many

18 July 2015, 02:33 PM	#2
Presa canary "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Justin Location: Pa Watch: Explorer ii Posts: 3,150	Don't respond to the Nigeria dudes offering you 500,000k for a measly $7500 down payment....

18 July 2015, 03:05 PM	#4
zhleez "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Singapore Posts: 59	I don't quite get the part 'several redilivered attempts were made and then as of 3 days ago, the tracking number stopped progressing'. Is the item still with the post office or someone has signed it off? If it is the latter, then there should be a scanned copy of proof of delivery which can be obtained from the post office. This is what I can get from my country. You can show paypal the proof of delivery and the correspondence between you and the buyer on the requested delivery address and there is no reason paypal will not award in your favour.

20 July 2015, 12:28 PM	#6
JoeyT Banned Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: USA Posts: 221	Sorry I have not updated the situation but it's pretty interesting. So I found the contact information for the supposed "buyer". I gave him a call to see what's going on and he had no idea a watch was purchased in his name. We had a long conversation and it was determined that his identity must be compromised because there were multiple purchases on his credit card that he was not aware of. I immediately contacted USPS to find out what's going on with the package and here is where things get cooky. The mailman refused to deliver the package because the recipients ID did not match the package. The crook then got furious and verbally assualted the mailman (all this was told to me when I contacted the post office directly) so the crook attempted to go online and schedule redilivered multiple times but the post office did not release the package because they had a feeling something was wrong. I was very happy to learn that the manager of the post office had the package on his desk and once we spoke it was concluded that the package was going to be shipped back!!!!! So tomorrow I will get my omega back. Lesson learned, never ship to a different address, and stay away from selling on eBay because they are very one sided towards the buyer. Thanks all for your support

20 July 2015, 03:30 PM	#11
kronograf "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: KC Location: NoVA Watch: More than 1. Posts: 43	PayPal Verified Address and signature required (cost only extra $2) that's what I normally do. Glad to hear that you got your watch back.

20 July 2015, 06:20 PM	#13
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,281	Great.

21 July 2015, 12:42 AM	#14
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	That's luckier than a three peckered dog. Good for you and I hope the criminal gets snared by the officials. Definitely go purchase a lottery ticket.

21 July 2015, 01:06 AM	#15
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Awesome outcome! Now the Police should take interest and put this scammer in jail where he belongs. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

23 July 2015, 05:44 AM	#16
roadsterdoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Chris Location: Houston Watch: Tudor Pelagos Posts: 84	I'm glad it worked out for you. I'd like to know how PayPal refunded the payment if it was sent as a gift. Especially without notification. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 July 2015, 09:09 AM	#19
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	Once the watch is back, I'd send the postman a little something. He saved you.....

23 July 2015, 10:42 AM	#21
Runfar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Colorado Posts: 336	Wow you are definitely so lucky and agree send something that man saved you and that priest needs to go to confession

23 July 2015, 10:47 AM	#22
toneafficianado 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Alan Location: Australia Posts: 2,201	A happy ending is so rare with a story like this! Congrats.

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