Yachtmaster 42 Ti more rare than normal?

[roadster198]

Having spoken to my AD recently during a purchase I enquired about the YM Ti.

She told me they expect to get 2 tops over the next two years and that was amongst their stores.

I kind of expected it to be rare just not that rare. No laughing at the back.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by roadster198

Having spoken to my AD recently during a purchase I enquired about the YM Ti.

She told me they expect to get 2 tops over the next two years and that was amongst their stores.

I kind of expected it to be rare just not that rare. No laughing at the back.

No Rolex watch is rare some made in smaller numbers but being rare no

[HogwldFLTR]

Rolex has the power to create demand by minimizing availability. It seems that could be the case here. I'm still hoping to get one.

[brandrea]

I’m excited to see one (even an exhibition model).

It’s a polarizing reference, but I like that Rolex has taken the YM in a different direction

[Oldwoods]

Originally Posted by roadster198

Having spoken to my AD recently during a purchase I enquired about the YM Ti.

She told me they expect to get 2 tops over the next two years and that was amongst their stores.

I kind of expected it to be rare just not that rare. No laughing at the back.

I deal with the same AD and was told the same thing, “don’t hold your “ was the message.

[SamArj]

Have been told something similar but I'm hoping that the reality of the situation isn't quite as bad....I really want this watch

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by padi56

No Rolex watch is rare some made in smaller numbers but being rare no

[1William]

I would like to see one in person and when introduced, I wanted one. Now I am not so sure. I am usually good with the game playing and posturing that goes with new releases but either I have tired or there is not enough appeal for me to do much more than shrug my shoulders and move on. The one watch that I might have some enthusiasm for is the Green Dial SS Sky-Dweller on Jubilee. We will see when they start entering the market.

[Catatafish]

Two ADs have told me they don't even expect a display model until late Fall. Neither would even pretend to put me on a list that doesn't exist. I can't wait, I love titanium on a watch, so light...

[bluestreak]

Originally Posted by padi56

No Rolex watch is rare some made in smaller numbers but being rare no

If there are 1800 AD and each is getting 1-2 per year, that means there will be around 3000 of these on the entirety of planet Earth. That’s rare.

What’s the definition of “rare?” How many do there have to be?

[Osmin]

Rare is 25 or 50, as most limited watch runs are.

[Nav01L]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

If there are 1800 AD and each is getting 1-2 per year, that means there will be around 3000 of these on the entirety of planet Earth. That’s rare.

What’s the definition of “rare?” How many do there have to be?

That’s more than many IWC limited editions, that’s not rare.

[PenDelicate]

We perhaps need a more useful word than, "Rare."

We know what you mean by your post, of course, but as pointed out, "Rare," is an absolute term that's almost valueless in terms of Rolex.

In accounting there's a wonderful thing called an, "Equilibrium price," which is the price when supply equals demand. Is there a quantity that is not price, but sheer number? As in: total number products demanded / total number products supplied, in a given year?

Because a good name for that quantity might be, "Desirability," which might be more useful than, "Rarity."

30 FP Journes might be rare, but if only 60 collectors want/can afford them, then that model would have a desirability of 2.

But 10,000 Ti Yachtmasters might have 50,000 collectors who want and can afford them: that model would then have a desirability of 5, so despite not being as rare, they'd be much harder to come by.

[watchwatcher]

I'm interpreting what the OP is trying to say as limited availability to the masses. Which, I would whole heartedly agree with.

If I'm wrong, then, no, it's not (or going to be) rare.

[lab rat]

Oh, linguistics!

Fascinating subject. I always come on this forum hoping somebody will start speaking about syntax, phonetics or at least grammar, and today my wish was granted.

Glorious day!

Very uncommon occasion, indeed. Erm… uncommon… I meant rare. You know, rare - like not occuring very often. Like… I don’t know… Yachtmaster Ti in ADs? Something you don’t see every day.

Scarce, maybe? Like not being able even to see it in ADs until fall, maybe?

Hmmm, I don’t know if this will get tnrough, maybe antonyms will help. I will use them in sentence in order to make them more organic: “This Lady Datejust is frequent and common in ADs, unlike Yachtmaster Ti”.

Come on, guys. Nobody thinks Rolex is hand made from unicorns horns, but if there’s less pieces of a certain model going around, it’s not wrong to say that model is rare.

I’ve been to my AD yesterday, tried the new TT GMT. Strong 80s vibe in mullet kind of way. They told me the same thing for the Celebration OP: late fall display models, january the first ones for sale.

[JSolution]

Originally Posted by padi56

No Rolex watch is rare some made in smaller numbers but being rare no

Made in smaller numbers is literally the definition of rare.

Anyhow, I haven’t enquired about it as not interested but I would of expected it to have the same amount produced as a usual YM, so interesting to see if it’s not.

[CaptT]

Originally Posted by bluestreak

If there are 1800 AD and each is getting 1-2 per year, that means there will be around 3000 of these on the entirety of planet Earth. That’s rare.

What’s the definition of “rare?” How many do there have to be?

Have to agree. Based on what the AD has indicated, it would be a rarity that one would acquire this model, see someone wearing one in public, etc.

“Not found in large numbers”
“Not occurring very often”
“Uncommon”

I believe that 1-2 per AD over a year or two meets this definition, though for some maybe the relative frequency matters. 3000 out of 1m+ annually feels uncommon, not occurring very often - relatively speaking.

And if those who believe “no Rolex is rare” are thinking of DJs and Subs as well as a host of other models (even GMTs and Daytonas), that makes sense. But to make a blanket statement isn’t true.

In 2014 I bumped into someone who was wearing in public the 2012 Rolex Deepsea Challenge. Apparently there are only ~4 made, ever. Got to try it on, it was quite impressive. Rare? For sure.

To the OP and others looking to acquire the new titanium YM, good luck.

[bullies]

I think they'll be "rare", at least initially. I'm looking forward to seeing one too. I think it'll be a pretty cool piece

[TVC15]

Rare = Hard to get at retail

[Mathematoxic]

New models are the freshest carrots that an AD have. Naturally all will be “rare”. I would have done the same if I am an AD.

[Giovannibravo]

I can’t find any on Chrono. I feel the new releases are making their way into the ADs in the next couple of weeks. An OP posted about getting the call about a 12-series Daytona.


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[GB-man]

Rare watches are ones you can’t find on the market at any given time. Examples pop up occasionally or change hands between collectors.

[harvey]

…hoping to see a dummy exhibition watch next weekend (along with the other new releases)…will ask how many they are expecting…along with how many on the ‘waiting list’ already.

[Oystersteel92]

Originally Posted by roadster198

Having spoken to my AD recently during a purchase I enquired about the YM Ti.

She told me they expect to get 2 tops over the next two years and that was amongst their stores.

I kind of expected it to be rare just not that rare. No laughing at the back.

My AD said this would be THE hot model from this years releases. That title may actually go to the goofy bubble dial OP, but the Ti YM is going to be harder to get for several years. Unless of course the happening happens.

[YGRLX]

Mine said it will be the hardest to allocate. 1-2 per year.

[Bxtek]

Isn't 1-2 per year average on any hot sports model watch? I've heard the same amount over the years when inquiring on other models like a Pepsi, Daytona, VTNR, BLNR, etc. If the above is true, I am not surprised to hear the same thing for the Ti YM.

[tenementhall]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Isn't 1-2 per year average on any hot sports model watch? I've heard the same amount over the years when inquiring on other models like a Pepsi, Daytona, VTNR, BLNR, etc. If the above is true, I am not surprised to hear the same thing for the Ti YM.

Those watches are more like 1-2 per month for a mid-sized AD. But the demand is 100x+ greater than for this one

[Bxtek]

Originally Posted by tenementhall

Those watches are more like 1-2 per month for a mid-sized AD. But the demand is 100x+ greater than for this one

Ah okay. Each AD I have visited, I have always heard 1-2 pieces per year of the high demand models. Maybe they were just BSing me!

[George58]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Ah okay. Each AD I have visited, I have always heard 1-2 pieces per year of the high demand models. Maybe they were just BSing me!

they are
rolex makes over a million watches a year
are not rare just hard to get because the whales get it first

[SamArj]

Originally Posted by Bxtek

Ah okay. Each AD I have visited, I have always heard 1-2 pieces per year of the high demand models. Maybe they were just BSing me!

Yup, they were BS'ing you, especially for something like the BLNR, they will get some every month