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ACepero · 31 May 2023, 05:04 AM

Recently picked up this Explorer II 216570. I've been checking out the 216570 thread on this forum and when I compare my piece to others on the site, something seems off. I know what it is, but I was wondering if others see it...

https://i.imgur.com/t6DCO78.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Hcratvg.jpg

hellofromthebay · 31 May 2023, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

Recently picked up this Explorer II 216570. I've been checking out the 216570 thread on this forum and when I compare my piece to others on the site, something seems off. I know what it is, but I was wondering if others see it...

https://i.imgur.com/t6DCO78.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Hcratvg.jpg

Cyclopes magnification?

mgsooner · 31 May 2023, 05:06 AM

Date magnification looks wonky

WatchTimes · 31 May 2023, 05:09 AM

Magnification and the date wheel looks steel (but I imagine that's just the lighting)

Where did you pick it up?

Looks like you need to check the movement.

ACepero · 31 May 2023, 05:09 AM

Yes, the cyclops magnification. This piece came with box and papers so I was under the impression that it is authentic. But, now I am having second thoughts.

khalifam · 31 May 2023, 05:13 AM

Can you scroll to another date? What does 1 look like? Definitely magnification issue

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ACepero · 31 May 2023, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchTimes

Magnification and the date wheel looks steel (but I imagine that's just the lighting)

Where did you pick it up?

Looks like you need to check the movement.

Picked it up in Nashville. A shop that sold a bunch of pieces of Rolex, Omega, etc. The piece came with full kit.

KatGirl · 31 May 2023, 05:15 AM

There ar3 really good clones out there that you can buy, and pay extra for box and papers, so I’d take it to someone for authentication. The magnifier does indeed, look off.

Kat

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zi464 · 31 May 2023, 05:17 AM

The fonts bit off to me.
If I were you I will send it to RSC to see what they say

Undefeatable · 31 May 2023, 05:18 AM

Not saying its fake, but faking box and papers is the easiest part.

ACepero · 31 May 2023, 05:18 AM

Would an AD be able to tell? Would they be able to run the serial number?

ACepero · 31 May 2023, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by khalifam

Can you scroll to another date? What does 1 look like? Definitely magnification issue

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https://imgur.com/a/NEynC8y

khalifam · 31 May 2023, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

https://imgur.com/a/NEynC8y

Oh man, that's really really off

Hoping the outcome is a good one

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PB_nts! · 31 May 2023, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

https://imgur.com/a/NEynC8y

This looks like I, instead of 1

zi464 · 31 May 2023, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

https://imgur.com/a/NEynC8y

The "1" is off man.
Call any AD near you if they have house watchmaker to check the movement.
Or send it to RSC

daveswordfish · 31 May 2023, 05:44 AM

Id be concerned over the date wheel, cyclops, and dial printing and get it authenticated ASAP.

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rmwill · 31 May 2023, 05:49 AM

Put the serial number into google and see if its a common reused number on fakes. It could be genuine but had a damaged dial, date wheel and crystal replaced with aftermarket garbage. Also the pics are pretty bad, so its very hard to say.

doublevanose82 · 31 May 2023, 06:04 AM

You didn't notice this before handing over the $$$??

WatchTimes · 31 May 2023, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

https://imgur.com/a/NEynC8y

That doesn't look right....

train-time · 31 May 2023, 06:21 AM

Despite the magnification, the "1" is really odd looking for a genuine Rolex. Something is not right there.

hutch300 · 31 May 2023, 06:28 AM

Go to a watchmaker or even the place that sold it. Have it checked. I'd talk to the seller asap.

VogelPhoenix · 31 May 2023, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by PB_nts!

This looks like I, instead of 1

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All the ones I see online look like I and not like 1. If it was 1 it would be time for OP to panic.

The magnification however is indeed off, but it's not like Rolex didn't have problems with that in the past. Time to get it checked out.

For reference, date window on my first gen BLNR. The font for the "1" is the same, but magnification in vertical direction seems somewhat different:

yeah, I know, need to clean the watch at some point...

Calatrava r · 31 May 2023, 06:45 AM

I would return it for a full refund, ASAP.

PB_nts! · 31 May 2023, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

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All the ones I see online look like I and not like 1. If it was 1 it would be time for OP to panic.

The magnification however is indeed off, but it's not like Rolex didn't have problems with that in the past. Time to get it checked out.

today is 30, I will wait until tomorrow to tell you what my DJ's 1 look like, or maybe the day after is better

-dustin · 31 May 2023, 06:51 AM

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/f...apers.5468834/

The 1 doesn't seem that far off to me...?

But the magnification seems a bit odd.

ACepero · 31 May 2023, 06:52 AM

Just got back from the RSC on Fifth Avenue. After a 20 minute review, they have confirmed its authenticity, but admit the cyclops is NOT Rolex. One can only speculate why the cyclops is not genuine Rolex.

They are going to keep the watch over the next 48 hours to determine, what else, if anything requires servicing and will replace the cyclops as part of the service.

airchitect · 31 May 2023, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ACepero

Just got back from the RSC on Fifth Avenue. After a 20 minute review, they have confirmed its authenticity, but admit the cyclops is NOT Rolex. One can only speculate why the cyclops is not genuine Rolex.

They are going to keep the watch over the next 48 hours to determine, what else, if anything requires servicing and will replace the cyclops as part of the service.

Did you get it at Genesis? Kings? Or Nashville Watch Exchange or whatever it is? Genesis has stuff they’ve had refurbed which could explain the cyclops/crystal. They aren’t a Rolex AD.

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ACepero · 31 May 2023, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by airchitect

Did you get it at Genesis? Kings? Or Nashville Watch Exchange or whatever it is? Genesis has stuff they’ve had refurbed which could explain the cyclops/crystal. They aren’t a Rolex AD.

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It was actually Nashville Tactical Lounge. Mostly sell guns and knives. Went in there to check out a few things and they had a watch case. I was looking for an Explorer II and they happened to have a 216570.

rmwill · 31 May 2023, 07:00 AM

Garbage aftermarket crystal. The cyclops is not replaced separately.

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Originally Posted by ACepero

Just got back from the RSC on Fifth Avenue. After a 20 minute review, they have confirmed its authenticity, but admit the cyclops is NOT Rolex. One can only speculate why the cyclops is not genuine Rolex.

They are going to keep the watch over the next 48 hours to determine, what else, if anything requires servicing and will replace the cyclops as part of the service.

ACepero · 31 May 2023, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rmwill

Garbage aftermarket crystal.

I'm guessing the seller didn't want to bother with the wait and cost of an RSC...

31 May 2023, 05:04 AM	#1
ACepero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Hoboken, NJ Watch: 116710LN Posts: 35	Something Seems Off Recently picked up this Explorer II 216570. I've been checking out the 216570 thread on this forum and when I compare my piece to others on the site, something seems off. I know what it is, but I was wondering if others see it... https://i.imgur.com/t6DCO78.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Hcratvg.jpg

31 May 2023, 05:06 AM	#3
mgsooner "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2018 Real Name: Matthew Location: Tulsa, OK, USA Posts: 1,906	Date magnification looks wonky __________________ \|Rolex Submariner 114060\|Rolex Datejust 126234 silver dial\| \|Tudor Heritage Chrono 70330B\| \|Grand Seiko SBGT021 day-date quartz\|

31 May 2023, 05:09 AM	#4
WatchTimes 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: JYogi/Jeremy Location: Metro Detroit USA Watch: It's a Rolex! Posts: 5,450	Magnification and the date wheel looks steel (but I imagine that's just the lighting) Where did you pick it up? Looks like you need to check the movement. __________________ "You won't rise to the occasion - you'll default to your level of training." Barrett Tillman Kentucky Colonel, Tennessee Squire & Combat Leprechaun

31 May 2023, 05:18 AM	#10
Undefeatable "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Kevin Location: Irvine, CA Watch: 124060 Posts: 492	Not saying its fake, but faking box and papers is the easiest part. __________________ 2FA

31 May 2023, 05:49 AM	#17
rmwill 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Somewhere Cold Posts: 900	Put the serial number into google and see if its a common reused number on fakes. It could be genuine but had a damaged dial, date wheel and crystal replaced with aftermarket garbage. Also the pics are pretty bad, so its very hard to say. __________________ Rolex GMT Master II 116710LN Rolex Sea-Dweller 16600 Rolex Explorer 224270 Rolex Explorer II 226570 Polar Omega Moonwatch Sapphire Sandwich Panerai PAM00111 2 Factor Authentication

31 May 2023, 05:13 AM	#6
khalifam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,071	Can you scroll to another date? What does 1 look like? Definitely magnification issue Sent from my SM-F936B using Tapatalk

31 May 2023, 05:15 AM	#8
KatGirl 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Kat Location: Northern Ca, USA Watch: 126233 Wimbledon T Posts: 5,404	There ar3 really good clones out there that you can buy, and pay extra for box and papers, so I’d take it to someone for authentication. The magnifier does indeed, look off. Kat Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

31 May 2023, 05:17 AM	#9
zi464 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: us Posts: 218	The fonts bit off to me. If I were you I will send it to RSC to see what they say

31 May 2023, 05:44 AM	#16
daveswordfish "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 535	Id be concerned over the date wheel, cyclops, and dial printing and get it authenticated ASAP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

31 May 2023, 06:04 AM	#18
doublevanose82 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Carlito Location: TX Watch: Rolex DJ 36mm Posts: 183	You didn't notice this before handing over the $$$??

31 May 2023, 06:21 AM	#20
train-time "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Maryland, USA Watch: All gone! Posts: 4,000	Despite the magnification, the "1" is really odd looking for a genuine Rolex. Something is not right there.

31 May 2023, 06:28 AM	#21
hutch300 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: Jeff Location: PNW Posts: 1,306	Go to a watchmaker or even the place that sold it. Have it checked. I'd talk to the seller asap.

31 May 2023, 06:45 AM	#23
Calatrava r 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 10,590	I would return it for a full refund, ASAP.

31 May 2023, 06:51 AM	#25
-dustin 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Dustin Location: A, TX Posts: 1,570	https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/f...apers.5468834/ The 1 doesn't seem that far off to me...? But the magnification seems a bit odd.

31 May 2023, 06:52 AM	#26
ACepero "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Hoboken, NJ Watch: 116710LN Posts: 35	Just got back from the RSC on Fifth Avenue. After a 20 minute review, they have confirmed its authenticity, but admit the cyclops is NOT Rolex. One can only speculate why the cyclops is not genuine Rolex. They are going to keep the watch over the next 48 hours to determine, what else, if anything requires servicing and will replace the cyclops as part of the service.

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