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Ascot · 21 October 2021, 07:12 AM

I am considering buying a Perpetual Calendar as my next watch. The boutique I buy AP from have me on the list and say we'll get one just not sure when. Vacheron Overseas perpetual calendar is available more easily and looks good too.

Whilst I am drawn to AP PC, I haven't been able to actually see one for real.

Could those of you who've had both, or tried both share your experience and preference?

Thanks

macrowatch · 21 October 2021, 08:49 AM

I saw a RG VC once, felt cheap in my hand. Ironically from being too thin.

I preferred the AP, but haven’t been able to get one.

raclaims · 21 October 2021, 09:11 AM

I’d never use cheap to describe the vc
It’s thin for sure but far from cheap
Both are excellent it’s a matter of taste

macrowatch · 21 October 2021, 10:02 AM

I don’t mean to offend, but I do sincerely have that impression when I was shown the piece. I also noticed parts like the bezel and other things didn’t seem to be perfectly flush against the other parts and the gaps were uneven on one side. So maybe it was just that specific piece as I’ve never had that feeling with other overseas

S1mplee · 21 October 2021, 01:58 PM

Haven’t owned either but have seen/handled both. AP for sure hands down wins for me. It’s just AP is more my style and the 3D printed moon is wicked.

Becweb · 21 October 2021, 07:24 PM

Buy what you like most / prefer

startrolexendrolex · 22 October 2021, 10:00 AM

Have both and I can tell you I wear my vc much more.

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Ascot · 22 October 2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by startrolexendrolex

Have both and I can tell you I wear my vc much more.

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Thanks. Would you mind sharing side by side real life pictures of these two?

startrolexendrolex · 22 October 2021, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ascot

Thanks. Would you mind sharing side by side real life pictures of these two?

I don't have a side by side, I do have lots of pics of each watch. Is there something your trying to figure out before making your purchase decision? I feel that you can't go wrong by buying either if your paying msrp. If you brought one and didn't like it, you will get your money back if not more.

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drgoro · 23 October 2021, 02:48 AM

I could and did vote with my wallet for the VC.

Palex · 13 February 2023, 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by startrolexendrolex

Have both and I can tell you I wear my vc much more.

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Why do you wear the VC more?

DonLee · 13 February 2023, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Palex

Why do you wear the VC more?

Wears more easily and in different guise. Bracelet, rubber, leather.
The blue dial is absolutely gorgeous. It’s a more comfortable watch.

But if you want the ultimate bling icon, the AP has more flex

jgottsman11 · 13 February 2023, 03:54 AM

Ap no question

Vince_76 · 13 February 2023, 03:57 AM

AP is my favorite brand, but I really like the overseas PCs. So much so I might lean VC

l_chissle · 13 February 2023, 05:33 AM

Handled both. I'm a massive AP fan, but the VC wins for me (if you ignore the hype). The dial on the VC is incredible and the ultra thin makes it extra special.

EEpro · 13 February 2023, 06:00 AM

I wouldn't buy anything this expensive without seeing in person.

I prefer the AP information display with weeks on the perimeter and easier to read months... but one is ultra thin and I know the VC will wear comfortable and flat on the wrist.

AP's ultra thin is not on your radar?

VogelPhoenix · 13 February 2023, 09:50 AM

Going purely by pictures for VC, I'd strongly consider the WG skeleton PC.

Narbeh · 13 February 2023, 10:43 AM

If history serves me correct AP in the early 50s brought out the first perpetual calendar wristwatch. I’d stick with AP on this one although the Vacheron is very nice. Buy what’s speaks to you. Must handle each in the flesh to know. Cheers.

EEpro · 13 February 2023, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Narbeh

If history serves me correct AP in the early 50s brought out the first perpetual calendar wristwatch. I’d stick with AP on this one although the Vacheron is very nice. Buy what’s speaks to you. Must handle each in the flesh to know. Cheers.

Looks like Patek in 1925. Beautiful watch.

https://revolutionwatch.com/1925-pat...ar-wristwatch/

DonLee · 13 February 2023, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Narbeh

If history serves me correct AP in the early 50s brought out the first perpetual calendar wristwatch. I’d stick with AP on this one although the Vacheron is very nice. Buy what’s speaks to you. Must handle each in the flesh to know. Cheers.

Let alone the Perpetual Calendar... Patek made the Perpetual Calendar Chronograph in 1943, the ref. 1518.

mickyd329 · 13 February 2023, 04:20 PM

Both beautiful watches, but I'm partial to the AP QP.

crispyness87 · 13 February 2023, 04:43 PM

I prefer the AP bracelet (couldn't care about the leather & rubber strap, that's just me), I prefer the Tapisserie over lacquered, and (this is a big one) the moon on the AP.

l_chissle · 13 February 2023, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Going purely by pictures for VC, I'd strongly consider the WG skeleton PC.

This is one where I probably wouldn't go for the skeleton. The dial on the blue is so nice in the sun!

AEV · 14 February 2023, 12:06 AM

I would go for AP. Bracelet, dial set up look better.

Palex · 14 February 2023, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DonLee

Let alone the Perpetual Calendar... Patek made the Perpetual Calendar Chronograph in 1943, the ref. 1518.

Yeah, but not with leap year indicator, if I recall right.

For me the AP all day, the week indicator I would use very much and also the moonphase with aventurine. I considered the ultrathin QP, but it lacks the week indicator.

DonLee · 14 February 2023, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Palex

Yeah, but not with leap year indicator, if I recall right.

For me the AP all day, the week indicator I would use very much and also the moonphase with aventurine. I considered the ultrathin QP, but it lacks the week indicator.

you're the first person i've ever heard that likes the week function

I've always thought, if they had the room to put another hand, why didn't they put a seconds hand, which certainly would be more useful

EEpro · 14 February 2023, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DonLee

you're the first person i've ever heard that likes the week function

I've always thought, if they had the room to put another hand, why didn't they put a seconds hand, which certainly would be more useful

I think there's something romantic but also sobering about a watch hand that rotates only once per year.

It reminds me of how fast children grow up and how many good years I may still have with my parents for example.

Bpan · 14 February 2023, 04:56 AM

Apparently many countries in Europe actually use week numbers regularly.

wiswrist · 14 February 2023, 05:05 AM

I'm partial to the QP as well. Mostly for design reasons. In Ti it's incredible.

Palex · 15 February 2023, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DonLee

you're the first person i've ever heard that likes the week function

I've always thought, if they had the room to put another hand, why didn't they put a seconds hand, which certainly would be more useful

Really? I use it every week;-) When I make week schedules for planning staff, when I plan promotions in my stores, when I make holiday schedules.

On a perpetual calendar, a second hand isn't needed I think. It tells years!

21 October 2021, 07:12 AM	#1
Ascot "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Ascot Posts: 25	Perpetual Calendar - AP (26574) vs. Vacheron Overseas I am considering buying a Perpetual Calendar as my next watch. The boutique I buy AP from have me on the list and say we'll get one just not sure when. Vacheron Overseas perpetual calendar is available more easily and looks good too. Whilst I am drawn to AP PC, I haven't been able to actually see one for real. Could those of you who've had both, or tried both share your experience and preference? Thanks

13 February 2023, 03:54 AM	#13
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13 February 2023, 03:57 AM	#14
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13 February 2023, 06:00 AM	#16
EEpro 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Real Name: Brad Location: Purdue Watch: Daytona Posts: 9,084	Perpetual Calendar - AP (26574) vs. Vacheron Overseas I wouldn't buy anything this expensive without seeing in person. I prefer the AP information display with weeks on the perimeter and easier to read months... but one is ultra thin and I know the VC will wear comfortable and flat on the wrist. AP's ultra thin is not on your radar? __________________ ♛ ✠ Ω 2FA Active

13 February 2023, 09:50 AM	#17
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21 October 2021, 08:49 AM	#2
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,365	I saw a RG VC once, felt cheap in my hand. Ironically from being too thin. I preferred the AP, but haven’t been able to get one.

21 October 2021, 09:11 AM	#3
raclaims "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: NJ Posts: 2,584	I’d never use cheap to describe the vc It’s thin for sure but far from cheap Both are excellent it’s a matter of taste

21 October 2021, 10:02 AM	#4
macrowatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: HK Posts: 4,365	I don’t mean to offend, but I do sincerely have that impression when I was shown the piece. I also noticed parts like the bezel and other things didn’t seem to be perfectly flush against the other parts and the gaps were uneven on one side. So maybe it was just that specific piece as I’ve never had that feeling with other overseas

21 October 2021, 01:58 PM	#5
S1mplee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Usa Posts: 291	Haven’t owned either but have seen/handled both. AP for sure hands down wins for me. It’s just AP is more my style and the 3D printed moon is wicked.

21 October 2021, 07:24 PM	#6
Becweb Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: - Posts: 407	Buy what you like most / prefer

22 October 2021, 10:00 AM	#7
startrolexendrolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: US Posts: 650	Have both and I can tell you I wear my vc much more. Sent from my SM-G988U using Tapatalk

23 October 2021, 02:48 AM	#10
drgoro "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Virginia Posts: 816	I could and did vote with my wallet for the VC.

13 February 2023, 05:33 AM	#15
l_chissle "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: Germany Posts: 614	Handled both. I'm a massive AP fan, but the VC wins for me (if you ignore the hype). The dial on the VC is incredible and the ultra thin makes it extra special.

13 February 2023, 10:43 AM	#18
Narbeh 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: USA Watch: AP Posts: 557	If history serves me correct AP in the early 50s brought out the first perpetual calendar wristwatch. I’d stick with AP on this one although the Vacheron is very nice. Buy what’s speaks to you. Must handle each in the flesh to know. Cheers.

13 February 2023, 04:20 PM	#21
mickyd329 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Socal Watch: AP/PP/Rolex Posts: 1,766	Both beautiful watches, but I'm partial to the AP QP. __________________ PP 5205G-013/ PP 5212A / AP 15416CE /26574 st QP/ AP 50th 16202st /AP 15500st Black / AP 26405CE / AP 77350CE / AP 15551st / AP 67540sk /Daytona C White/Rolex SS BLRO / Rolex Sub Green / Rolex Explorer II/ Rolex DJ Blue

13 February 2023, 04:43 PM	#22
crispyness87 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Earth Posts: 444	I prefer the AP bracelet (couldn't care about the leather & rubber strap, that's just me), I prefer the Tapisserie over lacquered, and (this is a big one) the moon on the AP.

14 February 2023, 12:06 AM	#24
AEV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Europe Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,450	I would go for AP. Bracelet, dial set up look better.

14 February 2023, 04:56 AM	#28
Bpan "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: NYC Watch: 5548BA, 16233G Posts: 54	Apparently many countries in Europe actually use week numbers regularly.

14 February 2023, 05:05 AM	#29
wiswrist 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,076	I'm partial to the QP as well. Mostly for design reasons. In Ti it's incredible. __________________ Instagram: @wiswrist

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