Journe or lange

[shafran]

I am considering one of these 2 on the secondary market.
The lange 1815 chrono, rg white dial, journe cs rose gold white dial, they actually are priced the same. Forgetting what else I own, which would you get and why.

[GB-man]

It’s silly but I would wear the Journe more. I just don’t favor the 1815 chrono even though the movement is maybe without peer.

[Parapraxis]

My head says Lange.
My heart says Journe.

[Dsmith1974]

Originally Posted by shafran

I am considering one of these 2 on the secondary market.
The lange 1815 chrono, rg white dial, journe cs rose gold white dial, they actually are priced the same. Forgetting what else I own, which would you get and why.

The 1815 ticks all the boxes for me. Railroad tracks, club markers, cut away dials, Teutonic font, heritage, assembled twice. Basically the closest you’ll get to a pocket watch on your wrist.

FPJ great too. Just not something I’m close to picking up yet.


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[ts3]

Manual wound PM chronos such as the 1815 don't fit my life style. When I am wearing a PM dress watch I don't need any chrono function and when I could use the chrono function I need to wear a tool watch that can take a beating. Not sure I will ever get a manual wound PM chrono for its horological merits alone w/o getting much wear out of it.

From a design perspective I prefer the RG white dial CS over the 1815 chrono as well. In fact this is exactly the Journe I'd pick if I were to get on the list today. Simple man likes basic kit. My only concern is the 40mm size. The 39mm of the CB is perfect for this design. The bezel looks wide on the 40mm CS and a narrow on the out-of-production 38mm variant.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

My head says Lange.
My heart says Journe.

Completely agreed. It is also kind of apple to orange too.

I would get the Lange for the finish and execution but Journe just for the love of it.

[uscmatt99]

The Lange is more watch, the Journe is the watch I'd wear more.

[BigAppleBill]

Both. Buy the watch you personally want right now and save for the other one to buy later. But if it was me, I'd buy the Journe first if I didn't own one yet. They are just special watches to wear. The Lange is also a very special watch in its own way. Really you can't go wrong with either. So both.

[llngoc]

Another thought. Buy the Lange now at used market and get on the waitlist at the Journe boutique. Save up for the Journe while waiting for the next two years. You may actually come out ahead money wise and end up with both watches.

[shafran]

Originally Posted by llngoc

Another thought. Buy the Lange now at used market and get on the waitlist at the Journe boutique. Save up for the Journe while waiting for the next two years. You may actually come out ahead money wise and end up with both watches.

On the secondary market they are the same. I am not the type who will wait 3 yrs for a watch, my tastes will change by the time I get it. The lang we is the better value, we 3lling uses under list, the journe over list

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by shafran

On the secondary market they are the same. I am not the type who will wait 3 yrs for a watch, my tastes will change by the time I get it. The lang we is the better value, we 3lling uses under list, the journe over list

In that case, I would go with the Journe today with you love it. I know the Lange is very compelling in terms of price and refinement. But Journe is just special. I also feel that if you resell the Journe a few years from now, you may be able to recover more money.

I personally do not sell any of my watches (which I should) but since you said your taste changes often, you may want to consider resale value.

[uniqueMR]

I own both but will vote for Journe - its just have different vibe :)

[rolexpatek363]

Journe.

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by shafran

On the secondary market they are the same. I am not the type who will wait 3 yrs for a watch, my tastes will change by the time I get it. The lang we is the better value, we 3lling uses under list, the journe over list

How much is the Lange 1815 retail vs secondary market?

[crod]

Although I love Lange, I will go Journe I had the CS RG white dial a couple of years ago and LOVED IT!!! I only sold it because I bought the RG CS HAVANANA which I like more haha

[shafran]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

How much is the Lange 1815 retail vs secondary market?

Selling around 50k used

[pdnb]

Wow! Strong representation toward the Journe CS. I. Chose the Pt. Datograph vs. the 1815 Chrono and have been eyeing the CS; with its svelte case and twin barrel RG movement.

I think you would enjoy both immensely. Good luck!


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[flyboyx999]

i own Lange and Journe (both use on weekends), I wear lange more causally and Journe on dressier events

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by ts3

Manual wound PM chronos such as the 1815 don't fit my life style. When I am wearing a PM dress watch I don't need any chrono function and when I could use the chrono function I need to wear a tool watch that can take a beating. Not sure I will ever get a manual wound PM chrono for its horological merits alone w/o getting much wear out of it.

From a design perspective I prefer the RG white dial CS over the 1815 chrono as well. In fact this is exactly the Journe I'd pick if I were to get on the list today. Simple man likes basic kit. My only concern is the 40mm size. The 39mm of the CB is perfect for this design. The bezel looks wide on the 40mm CS and a narrow on the out-of-production 38mm variant.

You make a really good point about a dress watch not needing tool watch complications. That's a good way to look at it.

[mbalmz]

definitely the lange. I prefer lange’s look generally and love the 1815 chrono; but personal taste the idea of possibly the best no-date chronograph on the market being priced the same as a time only fpj just seems bonkers to me.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by mbalmz

definitely the lange. I prefer lange’s look generally and love the 1815 chrono; but personal taste the idea of possibly the best no-date chronograph on the market being priced the same as a time only fpj just seems bonkers to me.

How about Rexhep Rexhepi?

[mbalmz]

Originally Posted by llngoc

How about Rexhep Rexhepi?

personally I much prefer it to fpj. objectively with RR I think you’re paying for the increased scarcity… lot fewer of them out there than FPJs.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by mbalmz

personally I much prefer it to fpj. objectively with RR I think you’re paying for the increased scarcity… lot fewer of them out there than FPJs.

Agreed. I feel that voutilainen is a good middle ground but it is also getting harder to get your hands on it.

I think I am getting OT now…

[macrowatch]

I looked at that FPJ last year before things went even more crazy for FPJ. The watch looked great in photos and on paper, but in the hand, it did nothing for me.

Hopefully it moves you enough to buy.

On paper, I still like the FPJ more than the Lange here.

Out of left field, I went AP after a similar decision to yours.

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by llngoc

How about Rexhep Rexhepi?

How do you get your hands on one? Or a KV?
Where in the secondary market are these even available?

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

How do you get your hands on one? Or a KV?
Where in the secondary market are these even available?

You don’t

KV much easier to get I believe. Possible that’s changed though.

[Parapraxis]

Originally Posted by GB-man

You don’t

KV much easier to get I believe. Possible that’s changed though.

Where can you get one? I don't see any on c24

[unknown]

Journe
Lange is nice but their cases are so boring
German quality but they leave me cold

[enjoythemusic]

Lange is part of the huge conglomerate Richemont, while FP Journe is a true independent. i'd go Journe in this case, let's support high-end independents who truly are making incredible products with outstanding unique movements

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Parapraxis

Where can you get one? I don't see any on c24

RR is impossible. I emailed them and acted one correspondence and they asked which watch I am interested in then never replied my followups anymore.

For KV, I don’t plan to get it used and would rather wait so I can custom design the watch. I believe that is part of the experience to obtain something which is uniquely mine. But I think they do exist in secondary market, a friend bought two used. One last year and an GMT just last month. Just not on C24, but I never asked how he got his as I was not planning to get used. It does not seem like C24 has a lot of interesting independent watches anyway, a search for Journe has 120 results but most are Elegante and CB. There is no Resonance nor CO. Really odd, I have always seen a few CO and Resonance listed there.