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Old 26 May 2020, 01:48 AM   #1
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Would you?!

I recently acquired two bronze Tudors, a BNIB blue Bucherer and a preowned brown face one

My question is, would in any way harm the watch or affect its value to dip it in vinegar and salt to remove the patina off?

I don’t plan to ever selling it but want to make sure its value isn’t affected

In the coin collection world, that’s a big no no! And wasn’t sure what’s it like in the watch world

Finally, for those who own bronze watches, what’s your experience been like and what have you used to clean/remove patina?

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Old 26 May 2020, 02:37 AM   #2
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Interesting question... People usually frown on polishing, but not sure the effects of salt and vinegar on bronze...

Here is a video I found from Christopher Ward:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ature=emb_logo
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Old 26 May 2020, 02:39 AM   #3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ExvZ0-Pwc

Here is a guy doing it to a Tudor Bronze.
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Old 26 May 2020, 03:12 AM   #4
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Never heard of this. Does it have that effect on gold too?
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Old 26 May 2020, 03:15 AM   #5
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Don't worry, it's a dime a dozen Tudor. Value? Lol

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Old 26 May 2020, 03:25 AM   #6
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Would you?!

Since bronze has only recently been reintroduced into horology, nobody truly knows what factors increase or decrease value over time. Since you have 2 bronze watches, I propose you select one as a control group and the other as an intervention group. 20 years from now, we’ll find out

Also, may I suggest the Bucherer blue to be your control?
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Old 26 May 2020, 03:27 AM   #7
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Never heard of this. Does it have that effect on gold too?
Gold is less likely to oxidize so it doesn’t get a “patina“ while bronze is a lot more likely!
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Old 26 May 2020, 03:40 AM   #8
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Interesting videos, thanks for sharing!


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Old 26 May 2020, 06:07 AM   #9
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ExvZ0-Pwc

Here is a guy doing it to a Tudor Bronze.
I don't know if I feel comfortable using a buffer on my watch
I wonder what 4 hours soaked in lemon juice might do to seals and gaskets!
Vinegar does the same job in about 5 minutes

I guess from a chemistry stand point either will do the job, my question is, would it affect the value of the watch in any way?

Thank you for sharing the videos!
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Old 26 May 2020, 06:29 AM   #10
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I don't know if I feel comfortable using a buffer on my watch
I wonder what 4 hours soaked in lemon juice might do to seals and gaskets!
Vinegar does the same job in about 5 minutes

I guess from a chemistry stand point either will do the job, my question is, would it affect the value of the watch in any way?

Thank you for sharing the videos!

It's not a rare watch, so I doubt it would have any effect on the value. It's going to build up a new patina anyway.
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Old 26 May 2020, 08:44 AM   #11
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The Tudor’s aluminum bronze alloy will never patina as boldly as the CuSn8 alloy used by Panerai and most others. I removed patina once on my Kaventsmann by soaking it in lemon juice. Amongst the bronzo afficionados I don’t think “resetting” the look affects value at all.
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Old 26 May 2020, 08:54 AM   #12
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IMHO the point of the bronze is having the unique patina. At least that's why I bought mine and I have no intention of removing it. Why? And I don't care what the "value" is in either case. I buy what I like. I don't ponder "what will this be worth in X years?"
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Old 26 May 2020, 09:34 AM   #13
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Crazy. Maybe someone will post a video using Brasso metal cleaner next.
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Old 26 May 2020, 10:15 AM   #14
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I recently seen a YouTuber who cleaned his bronze watch with lemon juice to bring it back to factory look.

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Old 26 May 2020, 11:09 AM   #15
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Don't worry, it's a dime a dozen Tudor. Value? Lol

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A dime a dozen?

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Old 26 May 2020, 11:14 AM   #16
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Bronze has a lot of copper and copper will go aqueous in a strong acid such as lemon juice. You can dissolve a 1980s penny for example. I would not do anything of the sort. If you don't like copper patina don't buy a bronze watch (obviously I jest but seriously. Don't do it)
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