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Old 24 January 2020, 05:58 PM   #1
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Please HELP checking my new Rolex Submariner

Hey guys,

I just found this forum today and joined.
I've recently got a used submariner 116610LN around my location,
dealer was 100% confident about the authenticity of the watch
but as you know, there are even more replica ones than genuine out there and wanted to get help from you guys checking this and to make sure if there's no problem with mine.
Would you guys please be able to take a sharp look and check ?

Both serial #s on guarantee card and engraving match,
Country code : 888 (looks like Hong Kong)
1st invoice date : Apr. 2013

Thanks!!!
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Old 25 January 2020, 01:38 AM   #2
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Old 25 January 2020, 02:50 AM   #3
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Its real but the clasp is fake
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Old 25 January 2020, 04:25 AM   #4
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Its real but the clasp is fake
I'm not convinced the rest of the watch is genuine. Should have the case back removed to see movement, IMO
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Old 25 January 2020, 04:57 AM   #5
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OP please post pics of the warranty card. You may cover up part of the serial #
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:21 AM   #6
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There’s a few things I don’t like about it but who knows.


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Old 25 January 2020, 05:26 AM   #7
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No good.
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:30 AM   #8
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There’s nothing wrong with it.
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:41 AM   #9
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There’s nothing wrong with it.
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:46 AM   #10
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Could be a genuine case and bracelet with a fake movement. I'm not commenting.
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:48 AM   #11
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I'm not convinced the rest of the watch is genuine. Should have the case back removed to see movement, IMO
I think externally ok
But not against this too
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:51 AM   #12
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I can't elaborate further on what has been said. I'm not 100% confident. Let's say that.
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Old 25 January 2020, 05:56 AM   #13
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Does the crystal have the crown laser etching ?



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Old 25 January 2020, 06:09 AM   #14
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I am no expert but there is no way I would buy the most replicated watch without getting it looked at before hand.

As others have said there are a few things even in my eyes that would have thrown up some flags. Far as the crown laser etching, this has been replicated for many years and is no indication of 100% genuine.
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Old 25 January 2020, 06:31 AM   #15
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Could be a genuine case and bracelet with a fake movement. I'm not commenting.
But you did..
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Old 25 January 2020, 06:44 AM   #16
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Means nothing. Some fake laser etchings are done better than the genuine ones.
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:06 AM   #17
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I'd need to give the watch a feel to make a decision.
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:30 AM   #18
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I don’t like this watch at all!

I don‘t want to imagine, what abuse the watch went thru (if genuine) to get the ceramic inlay damaged like it is!
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:32 AM   #19
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I don’t like this watch at all!

I don‘t want to imagine, what abuse the watch went thru (if genuine) to get the ceramic inlay damaged like it is!
What damage to inlay. Looks perfect to me.
Those marks are finger marks.
No scratches or dropout
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:39 AM   #20
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What damage to inlay. Looks perfect to me.
Those marks are finger marks.
No scratches or dropout
There appears to be a deep scratch on the ceramic at the 54 mark. Could be a hair, however.
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:43 AM   #21
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There appears to be a deep scratch on the ceramic at the 54 mark. Could be a hair, however.
Yes, it could be - but ceramic numbers are perfect, the fakes tend to have dropout and not the "3D" effect.
Not sure if 'black' ceramic would scratch to 'white'?

any one seen a scratched black ceramic bezel?

see here - seems to scratch to black!
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Old 25 January 2020, 07:55 AM   #22
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Yes, it could be - but ceramic numbers are perfect, the fakes tend to have dropout and not the "3D" effect.
Not sure if 'black' ceramic would scratch to 'white'?

any one seen a scratched black ceramic bezel?

see here - seems to scratch to black!
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=542185
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If it is a scratch, it could be the lighting making it look white. I agree with you, the bezel looks good as far as it being real.
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:09 AM   #23
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The scroll printing on that clasp blade looks sub-par at best.
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:11 AM   #24
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I see deep damages between 5 minutes and 15.
I don’t think that these are fingerprints
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:12 AM   #25
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Why do folks guess? OP asked for help, not beliefs and guesses.

Crowd sourcing authenticity seems like a poor way to make this determination.
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Old 25 January 2020, 08:19 AM   #26
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Why do folks guess? OP asked for help, not beliefs and guesses.

Crowd sourcing authenticity seems like a poor way to make this determination.
Let's put things into perspective. OP buys perhaps the most faked Rolex in the world. Spends several thousands of $$ Then comes here for authentication?
Would you do the same? I sure as hell wouldn't. I asked him for images of the warranty card. We will see if he comes back or is just trolling for a fake watch.
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Old 25 January 2020, 10:24 AM   #28
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One post... Ghost. If OP were concerned, he's be back by now- it's an $ 8,000 + watch.
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Old 25 January 2020, 10:34 AM   #29
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so here's the tell OP, you said "first invoice 2013"- maybe i'm not understanding- but this isn't a 2013 watch from what I can see- i'd put it at 2016+.

I always love these threads where the OP has posted 1 time about an $ 8,000+ watch and disappears - if I were seriously concerned about this, I'd be responding by now- all leads to probable fake - who knows...
The first character in the rehaut serial is a "G". Looks like 7 characters there, so if the watch is indeed genuine it would be a 2010 watch. And I emphasize the word "IF".
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Old 25 January 2020, 12:02 PM   #30
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OP is online now. OP, where are the rest of the pics?
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