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PureCoconut · 12 September 2019, 08:16 AM

Received this today and as it is my first Datejust, it felt a bit off to me. Thoughts on clasp, crown and dial?

mrcardoc · 12 September 2019, 08:29 AM

Hard to say my friend. The datejusts have been 1:1 reverse engineered almost to 90% perfect now. Without paperwork on the diamond dial or opening it up I can’t tell. If you open it up or take it to jeweler ......... look at the balance and see if it has balance screws on the wheel. Also insure it has a single piece balance bridge. The replicas have gotten that good all the way down to the movement. They interchange with gen parts. Also you can run the numbers on the bracelet. The date codes are usually never correct.

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mrcardoc · 12 September 2019, 08:32 AM

Also I don’t know if it’s the lighting or angle but the diamonds are not vsi and are not centered correctly. Rolex or even a jeweler would never let that fly

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armybuck041 · 12 September 2019, 08:35 AM

Here’s pics of my old DJII with a diamond dial:

Fit and finish was perfect. No slop on the bracelet and links etc.

watchnut100 · 12 September 2019, 06:21 PM

Clasp looks wrong to me

GLADIATOR · 12 September 2019, 11:21 PM

Get it checked.
Lots of "poor" details, albeit poor photos
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dxbtousa · 12 September 2019, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GLADIATOR

Get it checked.
Lots of "poor" details, albeit poor photos
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For once I agree with you Mr. Gladiator.

Get it checked.

PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dxbtousa

For once I agree with you Mr. Gladiator.

Get it checked.

DavidSW typically has a great reputation, would be shocked if its fake

dxbtousa · 13 September 2019, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PureCoconut

DavidSW typically has a great reputation, would be shocked if its fake

So if you already have an opinion on the watch, what is the point of this thread? Should have lead with all the information in the original post then?

My opinion still stands based on the evidence from original post.

Replies will always air on the safe side and as others have said; bad photos raise skepticism.

PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dxbtousa

So if you already have an opinion on the watch, what is the point of this thread? Should have lead with all the information in the original post then?

My opinion still stands based on the evidence from original post.

Replies will always air on the safe side and as others have said; bad photos raise skepticism.

I'll tell you whatever I want about the watch. Everybody on here is a fanboy of his; rather than all of you butthurt fanboys rushing to his defense, I'd rather see an unbiased opinion of my actual question. You'll be mad at this because its true.

What on earth does "bad photos raise skepticism" mean? Do you actually read before you post? Look at the pictures, give me an unbiased and snark-free opinion, and move on; quite simple! Wanted to like this forum, back to the AP forums I go.

locutus49 · 12 September 2019, 11:24 PM

Poor photos is a red flag.

PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by locutus49

Poor photos is a red flag.

Makes no sense but ok

locutus49 · 13 September 2019, 11:57 PM

People who sell fakes frequently post poor photos so the average person cannot tell if it is a fake. In this modern day there is no excuse for poor photos.

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Makes no sense but ok

Noonan · 12 September 2019, 11:26 PM

Where did you receive it from? That's all you should need to know to determine if it's authentic or not.

PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noonan

Where did you receive it from? That's all you should need to know to determine if it's authentic or not.

DavidSW

Mrjohnhuo · 13 September 2019, 07:18 PM

Yeah I agree, it look off. Case, looks strange.

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Andad · 13 September 2019, 07:36 PM

Adam is seldom wrong.

Pass.

mrcardoc · 13 September 2019, 09:45 PM

Unfortunately this place is getting filled with a bunch of uneducated snobs. They use google and automatically become watch oficialnados. I’m a third generation smith and only speak when needed. There are sooo many different variations of case sets and also sooo many people that sell honestly other than an authorized dealers. Until everyone knows all the facts don’t thread crap. Peoples two cents are not worth the time reading. Let this person enjoy the watch until all the facts are out. It looks right to me and I handle a 2 million dollar inventory on a daily basis. It’s a nice watch and looks good. Without physically holding it or opening it up it looks correct.

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PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardoc

Unfortunately this place is getting filled with a bunch of uneducated snobs. They use google and automatically become watch oficialnados. I’m a third generation smith and only speak when needed. There are sooo many different variations of case sets and also sooo many people that sell honestly other than an authorized dealers. Until everyone knows all the facts don’t thread crap. Peoples two cents are not worth the time reading. Let this person enjoy the watch until all the facts are out. It looks right to me and I handle a 2 million dollar inventory on a daily basis. It’s a nice watch and looks good. Without physically holding it or opening it up it looks correct.

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Thanks again and appreciate the fresh perspective around here ... saw these replies and couldn't help myself

herts9 · 13 September 2019, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardoc

Unfortunately this place is getting filled with a bunch of uneducated snobs. They use google and automatically become watch oficialnados. I’m a third generation smith and only speak when needed. There are sooo many different variations of case sets and also sooo many people that sell honestly other than an authorized dealers. Until everyone knows all the facts don’t thread crap. Peoples two cents are not worth the time reading. Let this person enjoy the watch until all the facts are out. It looks right to me and I handle a 2 million dollar inventory on a daily basis. It’s a nice watch and looks good. Without physically holding it or opening it up it looks correct.

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This.

Poor photos are not a true benchmark of authenticity. Not everybody has a $2000 digital camera to take the best shots, and I personally could not take any better than what the OP provided.

That said, I do not see anything out of the ordinary. The only real way to know for sure is to have someone qualified open it up and take a look inside.

Knappo 1307 · 13 September 2019, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PureCoconut

DavidSW

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Originally Posted by herts9

This.

Poor photos are not a true benchmark of authenticity. Not everybody has a $2000 digital camera to take the best shots, and I personally could not take any better than what the OP provided.

That said, I do not see anything out of the ordinary. The only real way to know for sure is to have someone qualified open it up and take a look inside.

I have to agree with this. Some on here, state bad or poor photos when in actuality they have no idea and should not be commenting to begin with. To the OP, if you do have a concern bring it up with David. I'm sure he would be more than willing to educate and straighten out any concerns you have.

PureCoconut · 13 September 2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

I have to agree with this. Some on here, state bad or poor photos when in actuality they have no idea and should not be commenting to begin with. To the OP, if you do have a concern bring it up with David. I'm sure he would be more than willing to educate and straighten out any concerns you have.

Wanted to keep him out of it but if concerns were raised I was going to give him a call. Until I could get to an AD (I thought) this was a viable option. As TRF sometimes proves, it is not.

Knappo 1307 · 13 September 2019, 11:28 PM

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Knappo 1307 · 14 September 2019, 12:33 AM

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

Syed117 · 14 September 2019, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

A classic thread by pure coconut

If he did really get it from David, I don't think there is any chance of it being a fake.

Who knows what's going on in the mind of a pure coconut.

PureCoconut · 14 September 2019, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

A classic thread by pure coconut

If he did really get it from David, I don't think there is any chance of it being a fake.

Who knows what's going on in the mind of a pure coconut.

Somebody is finally getting this

PureCoconut · 14 September 2019, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

Inception

jinikari01 · 14 September 2019, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

CorradoBrit · 14 September 2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

Thats a thing? Who knew

digitalcrocodile · 14 September 2019, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

Are you kidding me???

12 September 2019, 08:16 AM	#1
PureCoconut 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Real Name: Coco Location: ��& Watch: 5711 Posts: 611	Datejust II legitimate? Received this today and as it is my first Datejust, it felt a bit off to me. Thoughts on clasp, crown and dial?

12 September 2019, 08:32 AM	#3
mrcardoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Diego Socal Posts: 16	Datejust II legitimate? Also I don’t know if it’s the lighting or angle but the diamonds are not vsi and are not centered correctly. Rolex or even a jeweler would never let that fly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 September 2019, 08:35 AM	#4
armybuck041 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Fred'ton Canada Watch: Easy Come, Easy Go Posts: 304	Here’s pics of my old DJII with a diamond dial: Fit and finish was perfect. No slop on the bracelet and links etc. __________________ Easy come, easy go....

12 September 2019, 11:21 PM	#6
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Get it checked. Lots of "poor" details, albeit poor photos a __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

13 September 2019, 07:36 PM	#17
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,807	Adam is seldom wrong. Pass. __________________ E

12 September 2019, 08:29 AM	#2
mrcardoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Diego Socal Posts: 16	Hard to say my friend. The datejusts have been 1:1 reverse engineered almost to 90% perfect now. Without paperwork on the diamond dial or opening it up I can’t tell. If you open it up or take it to jeweler ......... look at the balance and see if it has balance screws on the wheel. Also insure it has a single piece balance bridge. The replicas have gotten that good all the way down to the movement. They interchange with gen parts. Also you can run the numbers on the bracelet. The date codes are usually never correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12 September 2019, 06:21 PM	#5
watchnut100 SCUMBAG Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 341	Clasp looks wrong to me

12 September 2019, 11:24 PM	#11
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Poor photos is a red flag.

12 September 2019, 11:26 PM	#14
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	Where did you receive it from? That's all you should need to know to determine if it's authentic or not.

13 September 2019, 07:18 PM	#16
Mrjohnhuo "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: Submariner. Posts: 80	Yeah I agree, it look off. Case, looks strange. Sent from my SM-N975F using Tapatalk

13 September 2019, 09:45 PM	#18
mrcardoc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: San Diego Socal Posts: 16	Unfortunately this place is getting filled with a bunch of uneducated snobs. They use google and automatically become watch oficialnados. I’m a third generation smith and only speak when needed. There are sooo many different variations of case sets and also sooo many people that sell honestly other than an authorized dealers. Until everyone knows all the facts don’t thread crap. Peoples two cents are not worth the time reading. Let this person enjoy the watch until all the facts are out. It looks right to me and I handle a 2 million dollar inventory on a daily basis. It’s a nice watch and looks good. Without physically holding it or opening it up it looks correct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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14 September 2019, 12:33 AM	#24
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=696391

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