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Old 3 April 2017, 12:28 PM   #31
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Wind by hand

Easy to do on the morning that you intend to wear that watch. I sold all my wonders a few years ago and have never missed them for a minute.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:33 PM   #32
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I think the conventional wisdom from watchmakers is that winders are bad for your watch. I wear my watches for a week at a time, so I just set it once on Sunday night and wear it for the rest of the week.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:37 PM   #33
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I think the conventional wisdom from watchmakers is that winders are bad for your watch. I wear my watches for a week at a time, so I just set it once on Sunday night and wear it for the rest of the week.
This is a pretty bold statement.

I'm sure you can (and have) found a watchmaker who, anecdotally, may have told you this but in the absence of some rock solid, data driven documentation, I think you are out of line to make such a broad sweeping, assertive statement.

Please show us your data.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:40 PM   #34
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What about the constant use of the crown to wind the watch? Doing this say twice a week, does that not cause unneeded stress and wear, whereas if it was on a winder this action would be spared.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:46 PM   #35
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This is a pretty bold statement.

I'm sure you can (and have) found a watchmaker who, anecdotally, may have told you this but in the absence of some rock solid, data driven documentation, I think you are out of line to make such a broad sweeping, assertive statement.

Please show us your data.
LOL, out of line. Disclaimer for those who need it: All anonymous opinions found on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.

Here's one watchmakers opinion.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:48 PM   #36
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:55 PM   #37
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I have automatics that I keep in a safe. No winder. Once every few weeks I pull them out and give them about 20 turns to wind and also run the date wheels through a cycle, or whatever complication it may have. I give the chronographs about 25 turns and start the timing function. What ever I decide to wear I will usually set it the night before or sometimes after I get to work.
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Old 3 April 2017, 12:57 PM   #38
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LOL, out of line. Disclaimer for those who need it: All anonymous opinions found on the internet should be taken with a grain of salt.

Here's one watchmakers opinion.
If you are saying your statement was out of line, I'm impressed, you are a gentleman. It's always nice to see someone with the presence and grace to say that........

If your comment relates to my statement, I have two words for you (and they are not "Happy Birthday.")

I do agree with the advice to take anonymous internet based information with a grain of salt. But this Forum is looked to by many as a trusted source of information. To say you choose not to use winders is fine. As evidenced by this thread, many do not look upon them with favor. To say you are suspicious of their potential to damage a watch is fine too. But to imply there is an abundance of evidence documenting it is out of line.

By the way, the video you offered up does not contain a shred of data or evidence. Nothing. It is a perfect example of something from the internet which should be taken with a grain of salt. Isn't it interesting though that the guys on the video, your experts, suggest taking the most expensive, complicated watches produced and putting them on a winder!!
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Old 3 April 2017, 01:04 PM   #39
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I had a 3 watch winder and never used it. It's ok to let the watch stop. Just wind it up when you decide to wear it again. For me it's part of the fun.
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Old 3 April 2017, 02:00 PM   #40
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I don't know what you're routine is but if you're wearing the watches on a strict 3-day rotation then yes, I would use the winder if you don't like winding and setting your watch every morning.

However if your routine is anything other than this and you're always wearing one of the three, then you shouldn't need to wind your watch every day. For example, if you wake up, wind the sub, and wear it for a couple days you shouldn't need to wind it each of those days. Even if you go sub one day, OP the next, back to sub on the third, then you shouldn't need to wind your sub that morning...and then maybe you wear your DJ once in a while I dunno it all depends on your routine.
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Old 3 April 2017, 02:30 PM   #41
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You know, if winders are so goshdang necessary for the health of an automatic timepiece, then why don't Rolex ADs keep every single example in their shops on winders 24/7 (or at all)?
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Old 4 April 2017, 12:03 PM   #42
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You know, if winders are so goshdang necessary for the health of an automatic timepiece, then why don't Rolex ADs keep every single example in their shops on winders 24/7 (or at all)?
This is a good point. Watches at dealers can sit there for a long time, especially some of the very pricey ones. And I am pretty sure that they are not being wound up by the dealer on any regular basis. I have never seen a dealer display case full of winders for every watch.
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Old 4 April 2017, 12:08 PM   #43
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I also have a winder an AD gave me with a purchase. Used it for about 3 days, realized how silly it was, and just wind and set my watches manually when I wear them. Enjoy doing it too.
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Old 4 April 2017, 02:07 PM   #44
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Hand wind all mine, the only one that makes me consider a winder is my navitimer as it doest offer a quick set date, so it's a pain to set the date if it's more than a day or three behind.

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Old 4 April 2017, 02:57 PM   #45
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I also have a winder an AD gave me with a purchase. Used it for about 3 days, realized how silly it was, and just wind and set my watches manually when I wear them. Enjoy doing it too.


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Old 4 April 2017, 03:29 PM   #46
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6 autos no winder. Wind and wear boys, wind and wear.
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Old 4 April 2017, 03:39 PM   #47
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if it is stopped, just spend 2 minutes setting it in the morning...
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:03 PM   #48
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I just pick one, wind it, set it and wear
Works for me.
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:26 PM   #49
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a winder would be good for your oldest or most vintage piece only because... unscreweing and re-screwing the crown to set the time 1,000's of times eventually wears down the threading in the crown/tube which could lead to sooner than necessary service costs.
Other than that it is all preference :)
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:30 PM   #50
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I have 3 watches and no winder here. I equate winders to leaving your car in idle overnight to keep the ac on. I reason a lot of wear and tear for supposed convenience.


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Old 4 April 2017, 10:30 PM   #51
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I just pick one, wind it, set it and wear
Same here. I have 10 to choose from, so most sit in the safe. I usually wear one for a week and then rotate. The Platona and Smurf are in the rotation more than the others.
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:38 PM   #52
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I have six autos and all are wound by hand to start them up.

The day I need a machine to start a watch is the day I sign into an old folks retirement home.

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Old 4 April 2017, 10:40 PM   #53
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I agree. Winders are a complete waste of money. I let my watches rest when not being worn.

The only reason for a winder is if you have a watch with multiple complications. A simple date watch, I let rest.
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:44 PM   #54
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I don't have a collection at the moment, but when I did I had 3-4 autos. I did not use a winder. Just pick the one I wanted and wind and set.

I really hope that my almost $8k steel watch that can handle the pressure of 1,000ft of water can handle being manually wound a couple times a month.
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:47 PM   #55
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There is always a big difference of opinion with this topic. I own several Orbita Sparta winders. Now, I only really care about the watches that are a pain in the a$$ to set the date. In fact, I've found that the watches need to be re-set after being on a winder anyway, so I've pretty much lost interest in keeping them wound while I'm not wearing them.
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Old 4 April 2017, 10:49 PM   #56
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Seriously, part of the romance of having a mechanical watch, is the pleasure of winding it up when it's run out. I would never put it in a watch-winder for that reason. Every time I wind my sub and feel the tiny cogs turn I get a smile on my face.
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What is your routine? If I end up keeping the sub, that leaves me with three automatic watches. I have only one Wolf winder and I probably won't be buying another. My DJ is on the winder that has a date complication so I would like that to always be accurate. This leaves the OP and Sub on just a pillow.

Do people with multiple watches have winders or do you just manually set it every time you wear it? The reason why I ask is because I read a thread on I think on RF that said manually winding everyday is not recommended as automatics weren't meant to be respring/wound by hand so often. In a bit of a pickle.
At one time I had almost 50 watches in my collection not all Rolex myself in over 30 years of wearing Rolex watches never felt the need for any machine winder.Now if you did have some sort of disability that prevented the use of your fingers to wind and set the watch,then yes a machine would be a convenience.Or if you had a watch with many complications which no Rolex has, then again they could be a convenience.As myself still got the use of two of the most perfect winders in the world, my own wrist,you can keep your machine winders a unnecessary expense.And even on one of these so called watch winders you have to reset the time and date a few times a year.
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What about the constant use of the crown to wind the watch? Doing this say twice a week, does that not cause unneeded stress and wear, whereas if it was on a winder this action would be spared.
What about the millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included they got wound up daily for years.And a automatic watch is just a manual wind watch with a added auto wind complication.
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Old 4 April 2017, 11:09 PM   #59
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What about the millions of manual wind watches with screw down crowns Rolex included they got wound up daily for years.And a automatic watch is just a manual wind watch with a added auto wind complication.


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no winder , winders and fancy display boxes are the best places were watches are stolen .
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