126710 spring bar comparison

[HNIC]

Had a little time today and was hoping to post some pics of the jubilee from the BLRO (#69200) on some other models (Daytona, Submariner, and BLNR). However I discovered the pins on this model are different from others. Specifically, the ends of the BLRO pins that insert to the case are thicker. Further, the BLRO pins are thinner along the middle, than say the pins from a Daytona or super jubilee (1.8mm).

Here are all three pins:
1. BLRO / bracelet 69200
2. Daytona / bracelet 78590
3. Submariner / bracelet 97200



Thickness of the ends of the pins vary with pin 1 for the BLRO being the fatter of the three:



I have seen info posted the oyster with polished center links (#78590) will fit the BLRO which I don’t doubt. But Rolex did switch up the pins making the jubilee not universal using OEM pins. I am sure with the right aftermarket pins it could work on other sports models.

A few more pics for fun....
BLRO on top
Daytona 116500 bottom



BLRO - 69200


The tape job...


No scratches...


Done playing with bracelets for the night...


Anyway- just wanted to share info on the pins. I apologize if this is old news. ⌚️


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[HNIC]

Additional note:
The BLRO jubilee with the factory pins do not work with the Daytona (116500) because their ends are too fat. They click into place but do not lock in... with a little pressure pop out of the case.

The other two sets of pins (pictured and labeled 2 & 3) won’t fit the BLRO jubilee because their middle width is too wide to fit into the bracelet. Hopefully this makes sense-


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[toxicavenger]

If I am not mistaken the tips on the #3 the Sub should be 1.2mm in size. So what size is the BLRO? 2mm maybe? Which is crazy to say the least.

[DoctorA]

Thanks for the info
It would make more sense for Rolex to make All spring bara the same size to make life a little easy on us!!

[exador]

Thanks, first time I've seen the lug holes on one of these.

So it seems that the 126710 takes 1.6 mm(?) spring bars with 1.5 mm(?) pins.

Thus those that have installed an Oyster using the standard 1.8 mm spring bars with 1.2 mm pins would have a sloppy fit.

[HNIC]

Originally Posted by exador

Thanks, first time I've seen the lug holes on one of these.

So it seems that the 126710 takes 1.6 mm(?) spring bars with 1.5 mm(?) pins.

Thus those that have installed an Oyster using the standard 1.8 mm spring bars with 1.2 mm pins would have a sloppy fit.

I don’t know the measurement and don’t have something at the cabin to measure pins this small.

I think you are right, the oyster with the 1.8s must be a sloppy fit due to the holes in the case being a larger diameter than the pins.


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[HNIC]

Originally Posted by DoctorA

Thanks for the info
It would make more sense for Rolex to make All spring bara the same size to make life a little easy on us!!

They know what they’re doing to us.... And it isn’t making life easier.


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[WS9D]

Very interesting. Thanks for the comparison.

[Porsche]

wow, many thanks. Detailed discussions on spring bars are few and far between, so this is an excellent resource...

[toxicavenger]

Originally Posted by Porsche

wow, many thanks. Detailed discussions on spring bars are few and far between, so this is an excellent resource...

You are right and they are super important. It would be cool if the op could get some measurements also.

[HNIC]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

You are right and they are super important. It would be cool if the op could get some measurements also.

If a forum member knows or can chime with the spring bar measurements, please do. If not, tomorrow I can get some measurements and I’ll post them here.


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[imgook]

Thanks for sharing. Pictures say 1000 words.

[zack777es]

OP, thanks for taking the time to put this up.
Great info.

[Enoch]

I discovered the difference in pins and lug holes this week..

Had to use generic 20mm pins to do this

[T01]

Neat comparison, thanks for sharing

[incontrol]

Interesting that Rolex would spend so much time engineering different size spring bars just to mess with us switching bracelets. Seems childish!

[Chadridv]

thanks for taking the time to post this!

Mix matching spring bars has always been part of the game if you like to tinker with bracelets (like I do).

For example, the 63600 jubilee has it's own spring bars that basically follow the bracelet. The Sub Glidelock bracelet will fit my 116710 but will require the spring bars from a YM (neither the original sub spring bars or GMT spring bars will work with that combo).

[HNIC]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

The Sub Glidelock bracelet will fit my 116710 but will require the spring bars from a YM (neither the original sub spring bars or GMT spring bars will work with that combo).

That’s odd, I had no issue with standard 2.0mm spring bars for my BLNR with the 97200 glidelock (pictured).



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[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by HNIC

That’s odd, I had no issue with standard 2.0mm spring bars for my BLNR with the 97200 glidelock (pictured).



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I couldn’t get mine to seat with anything but the 1.8mm spring bars. Specifically from a YM. The BLNR and Sub spring bars both wouldn’t seat for me.

Have you been wearing it around like that? No issues. Just double check to make sure they’re clicked in all the way.

[HNIC]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

I couldn’t get mine to seat with anything but the 1.8mm spring bars. Specifically from a YM. The BLNR and Sub spring bars both wouldn’t seat for me.



Have you been wearing it around like that? No issues. Just double check to make sure they’re clicked in all the way.

Yes, spring bar 3 pictured and have worn it like this approximately a year. I’ve also used the same spring bar for my 16610LV and another 97200 glidelock with no issues.


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[HNIC]

Originally Posted by Enoch

I discovered the difference in pins and lug holes this week..



Had to use generic 20mm pins to do this

Looks beautiful. I have a random assortment of aftermarket spring bars but after “tinkering” with them, it’s obvious they are not created equally. I would be a little nervous with their fit and durability but that’s my aftermarket version, yours may be nicer.



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[R!$]

I try to keep everything original but nice collection

[Tools]

Originally Posted by HNIC

Yes, spring bar 3 pictured and have worn it like this approximately a year. I’ve also used the same spring bar for my 16610LV and another 97200 glidelock with no issues.


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Check your ceramic Sub lug holes. They should be the larger size and not the same as a 16610, and use spring bars with the larger pivots.

[toolr]

Very interesting, thanks!

[mikkoi]

Great! Thanks for share this. Very useful!


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[gt0279a]

SD43 also has those new style spring bars, thinner with larger pivots.

[Rashid.bk]

That's some solid information. Very useful in helping to find a solution in the future if one wants to tinker.
Thanks for posting.

[pvl86]

Many thanks. I have both the BLRO and the BLNR. What spring bars would be needed for the jubilee work on the BLNR?

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[HNIC]

Originally Posted by toxicavenger

You are right and they are super important. It would be cool if the op could get some measurements also.

Spring Bars / Pin
1. 1.4mm / 1.1mm (BLRO - 69200)
2. 1.7mm / .80mm (Daytona - 78590)
3. 1.92mm / .80mm (Submariner - 97200)

I used a digital caliper and triple checked.

Re-inserting pics so you don’t have to scroll to the top.






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[HNIC]

Originally Posted by pvl86

Many thanks. I have both the BLRO and the BLNR. What spring bars would be needed for the jubilee work on the BLNR?

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None of the spring bars pictured. As far as I can tell, you will need to get spring bars no more than 1.4mm diameter with .8mm pins/pivots for the jubilee/69200 to work with BLNR, Subc, and Daytona.

The size/shape of the jubilee/69200 seems to match up to the Daytona case really nice and I’m guessing it will be the same for mentioned models with the right spring bars.


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