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View Poll Results: what is better Classic Calatrava?
5296 14 20.29%
5227 39 56.52%
why not try 5296 Sector Dial? 16 23.19%
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Old 21 September 2019, 02:32 PM   #1
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5296 vs 5227 - 2 Ultimate Classic Dress Calatrava

Both the watch are very similar, except that they 5227 have a hunter Caseback and the 5296 have 1mm smaller size (!?)

I actually prefer the marker on 5296 (don't know why). So which one will you choose between those 2 and why?

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P/S: Also the 5296 sector dial is also an option, but I do not like those hand since I think the dauphine hand make Calatrava look like "Calatrava"... and very Dressy

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Old 21 September 2019, 03:23 PM   #2
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I would go non-sector 5296 for its classic dial design. The sector dial doesn't work well w the date window IMO and I don't like "triangular" markers, neither on the 5227 nor on many modern JLCs and VCs. In the end I find the 5296 and 5227 very large for basic, empty-dial dress watches and prefer the 3998.
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Old 21 September 2019, 07:06 PM   #3
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5227 or 5107/5127 if you prefer a smaller dress watch.
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Old 21 September 2019, 07:41 PM   #4
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5227 all the way for me (especially the R version, which I own). I find the 5296 a little too flat like a pancake and too angular, while the 5227 curves down to fit the wrist better even with the larger 39mm size, plus the scalloped lugs and sloped/curved bezel/case add a lot of character and nuance (reminiscent of the classic 2526). And of course the opening caseback, the ultimate stealth feature, is hard to beat. The 5227 exudes quiet confidence and presence, classic lineage with a modern touch.

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Old 21 September 2019, 08:50 PM   #5
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5296 Sector Dial for me :)
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Old 21 September 2019, 08:51 PM   #6
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I'm a big fan of the 5196 and 5227...

if choosing between 5296 vs 5227, I'd go 5227.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:02 AM   #7
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I have a 5296G and it’s just not possible to get anymore timeless than it. I would also love a 5227 as well, so there’s that.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:09 AM   #8
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5296 Sector Dial for me :)
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:12 AM   #9
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Neither... save 10k buy the 5196r

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Old 22 September 2019, 07:17 AM   #10
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5227 is the better one for me with the shape of the case and lugs.


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Old 22 September 2019, 07:17 AM   #11
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Neither... save 10k buy the 5196r

Love it. I was going to buy the 5196G but went with the 5296G because I wanted the open caseback.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:20 AM   #12
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It was tough for me to justify the price of a 5227 when you can basically get an Annual Calendar for the same cost
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:20 AM   #13
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Love it. I was going to buy the 5196G but went with the 5296G because I wanted the open caseback.
I know lots of people do that... but once you decide on a collection of watches... you realize you never look at the case back unless it was a manual chrono or a small rotor.

I like the 5196 because it’s thinner and wears comfortably.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:46 AM   #14
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I know lots of people do that... but once you decide on a collection of watches... you realize you never look at the case back unless it was a manual chrono or a small rotor.

I like the 5196 because it’s thinner and wears comfortably.
Yep.... and I’ve never looked at my 5296 case back haha.
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Old 22 September 2019, 07:47 AM   #15
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Love my sector 5296g, so versatile. Bit of a strap monster too!
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Old 22 September 2019, 08:46 AM   #16
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5196G and 5227R

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Old 22 September 2019, 08:57 AM   #17
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Lange Saxonia thin - half the price
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:03 AM   #18
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5196G and 5227R

That is an excellent pair, I'm also considering the 5196G next to go alongside my 5227R.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:01 AM   #19
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5227 all the way or the 5107 or 5127. The 5296 wears like a 40mm and is off balance with the long lugs. From the photos you can see the 5227 is far more elegant and much less the scratch magnet without the sharp angle edged bezel on the 5296.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:03 AM   #20
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I know lots of people do that... but once you decide on a collection of watches... you realize you never look at the case back unless it was a manual chrono or a small rotor.

I like the 5196 because it’s thinner and wears comfortably.
I do not even look at the manual chrono much. Someday I will have the solid back put on my 5270.
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Old 22 September 2019, 10:10 AM   #21
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Two very different watches. The 5227 is a minimalist, bauhaus-like design and beautiful in its own way. The 5296 sector dial was an instant classic and perhaps the most attractive sector dial ever made. Definitely the most attractive in the modern era, especially in white gold. Which one you like is up to your individual taste. One thing for sure - it’s good to have choices like this!
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Old 22 September 2019, 12:12 PM   #22
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I do not even look at the manual chrono much. Someday I will have the solid back put on my 5270.
Really? If you don't mind me asking, why would you prefer it that way?
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Old 22 September 2019, 04:04 PM   #23
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5196G and 5227R


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That is an excellent pair, I'm also considering the 5196G next to go alongside my 5227R.
Wow the "Patek Philippe" font is really thicker on the 5227 compare to the 5196G

I used to think they use the same-font on every Calatrava
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Old 22 September 2019, 09:52 PM   #24
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I do not even look at the manual chrono much. Someday I will have the solid back put on my 5270.
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Really? If you don't mind me asking, why would you prefer it that way?
It sort of like a fine sports car with a beautiful motor. As much as the motor is beautiful to look at, I prefer to ride with a solid hood. I know the hood can be opened and the solid case back cannot which is a negative but the added heft and balance offset that issue in my view. Bear in mind clear case backs are relatively new in the watch world which is what 300 years old. The manufacturers love them. They can charge the same or more but use less precious metal. 5227 is the best of both worlds.
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It sort of like a fine sports car with a beautiful motor. As much as the motor is beautiful to look at, I prefer to ride with a solid hood. I know the hood can be opened and the solid case back cannot which is a negative but the added heft and balance offset that issue in my view. Bear in mind clear case backs are relatively new in the watch world which is what 300 years old. The manufacturers love them. They can charge the same or more but use less precious metal. 5227 is the best of both worlds.
I see your point, especially if the watch feels more balanced on the wrist with the solid case back, which is something I had never considered.

I have also thought that the clear case back means less precious metal is used, and thus considered a nice touch from Patek to include the solid case back in the package. I guess it just feels like a "waste" not to be able to admire the beautiful caliber on a PCC.
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Old 23 September 2019, 12:16 AM   #27
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Dammit. Every post I read here makes me change my opinion.

I admit I don't really get the sector dial. To me it looks kinda sporty on a very traditional, classic watch.
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Old 23 September 2019, 02:41 AM   #28
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For me it is the 5227R.
Though I did fit mine to a deployant.
It fit fits my wrist perfectly.
Previously the 5127 was my favourite. I love the way that the shoulders swoop up and protect the crown.
But I do prefer the larger case of the 5227.
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Old 23 September 2019, 09:34 AM   #29
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The officer's caseback sets it apart from the 5296.
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Old 23 September 2019, 01:11 PM   #30
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Neither... save 10k buy the 5196r



My vote too. 5196r is simply the most beautiful three hander in the calatrava collection.
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