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Old 21 July 2019, 07:15 AM   #1
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116619lb vs 15202

Hey guys, wanted to get your thoughts. Iím looking to add a blue dial watch to the collection, and have narrowed it down to a blue Rolex sub and a steel 15202. Anyone else go through a similar process? I have a number of watches on both the sporty side and dressy side, so Iím not really leaning one way or another.

I know it always comes down to personal preference, so Iím just curious which way you guys would go
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Old 21 July 2019, 07:48 AM   #2
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As an owner of a 15202, PP5712, a Daytona and Rolex BLNR, I can categorically say that the 15202 is my favourite of all of them.

However, it really depends what you want it for. The 15202 is fairly delicate and I would say certainly not an every day watch.

The Rolexes on the other hand - I wear the BLNR daily to work, play football and swimming with the kids, I can bang it about and itís fine.

In summary- completely different watches and depends what you want it for, and what other watches you have in collection.
If you already have an every day sports watch - 15202 hands down. But be warned itís delicate.



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Old 21 July 2019, 08:28 AM   #3
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As an owner of a 15202, PP5712, a Daytona and Rolex BLNR, I can categorically say that the 15202 is my favourite of all of them.

However, it really depends what you want it for. The 15202 is fairly delicate and I would say certainly not an every day watch.

The Rolexes on the other hand - I wear the BLNR daily to work, play football and swimming with the kids, I can bang it about and itís fine.

In summary- completely different watches and depends what you want it for, and what other watches you have in collection.
If you already have an every day sports watch - 15202 hands down. But be warned itís delicate.



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Great pic! Neither would be my daily...Iím more of a rotation guy
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Old 21 July 2019, 08:31 AM   #4
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Great pic! Neither would be my daily...Iím more of a rotation guy


15202 then.
Alternatively my Daytona is this one- also an option?



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Old 21 July 2019, 09:27 AM   #5
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Iím leaning towards adding the 15202 40th anniversary edition. I had a white dial 15202 a couple of years ago and I regret selling it. I also had the WG Sub and it is a very nice and versatile piece. In the end, I got bored of the blue dial.

I find the Jumbo way more interesting. Gorgeous bracelet, petite tapisserie dial and a classic Genta designed watch.
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Old 21 July 2019, 09:34 AM   #6
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got mine last night...love it. (the plastic is now off)


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got mine last night...love it. (the plastic is now off)


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15202 then.
Alternatively my Daytona is this one- also an option?



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Old 21 July 2019, 11:51 AM   #9
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I’ve owned both and they are both great but are different watches.

15202 - a PITA to wind and set date. No second hand- fragile and easy to scratch bezel. I would wear with a cuff or in non rough activities. Haut horology and an iconic piece. Beautiful, thin and elegant.

Smurf- Beautiful , hefty. A tank but easily scratched PCLs.

The answer is both. I would say if you have other watches the 15202 is better but if you are only have 1-3 watches the smurf is more versatile
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Old 21 July 2019, 11:56 AM   #10
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Owned the 15202 in the last and many Rolexes (not the Smurf), hands down the AP.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:11 PM   #11
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15202 then.
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I love that Daytona but feels too similar to my ss 116500
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:12 PM   #12
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Iím leaning towards adding the 15202 40th anniversary edition. I had a white dial 15202 a couple of years ago and I regret selling it. I also had the WG Sub and it is a very nice and versatile piece. In the end, I got bored of the blue dial.

I find the Jumbo way more interesting. Gorgeous bracelet, petite tapisserie dial and a classic Genta designed watch.
Yeah, agree, itís beautiful (at least in pics). I also had a 15202 in white and foolishly let it go several years back
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:13 PM   #13
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Congrats! Looks great!
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:15 PM   #14
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Iíve owned both and they are both great but are different watches.

15202 - a PITA to wind and set date. No second hand- fragile and easy to scratch bezel. I would wear with a cuff or in non rough activities. Haut horology and an iconic piece. Beautiful, thin and elegant.

Smurf- Beautiful , hefty. A tank but easily scratched PCLs.

The answer is both. I would say if you have other watches the 15202 is better but if you are only have 1-3 watches the smurf is more versatile
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Owned the 15202 in the last and many Rolexes (not the Smurf), hands down the AP.

Interesting, thanks for the feedback guys. Did you find the 116619 uncomfortable?
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:21 PM   #15
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Prefer the sub.
15202 didn’t last for me.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:23 PM   #16
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Interesting, thanks for the feedback guys. Did you find the 116619 uncomfortable?
Takes a bit of getting used to be ergonomics are great. 15202 more comfortable but 116619 is pretty good.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:25 PM   #17
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Prefer the sub.
15202 didnít last for me.
Thanks Gus. I guess you preferred your 5711?


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Takes a bit of getting used to be ergonomics are great. 15202 more comfortable but 116619 is pretty good.
Interesting, thanks. Never had a precious metal bracelet
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If you want to do 5711 versus 116619, it's a no brainer on the 5711 :)
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Old 21 July 2019, 01:53 PM   #19
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Interesting, thanks for the feedback guys. Did you find the 116619 uncomfortable?
For a heavy watch, the Rolex was very comfortable. The full PM with glide lock makes the watch very well balanced.
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Old 21 July 2019, 02:43 PM   #20
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i have a 15400 and a 116619LB.

i have worn a 15202.

the 15202 feels very thin and slight. it is beautiful and fits my 6.5 or so inch wrist v well. the 116619lb has been my daily since january pretty much (i was going to rotate but that has not happened).

two totally different watches i guess. the 116619lb is very heavy (228 grams all links). the glidelock is essential and comfort is great.

two great watches. i don't see how you could go wrong. i would struggle as to which to choose. the thing about the 116619lb is:
- robust
- blue dial is utterly beguiling. it's liquid wet looking gloss. very beautiful.
- 116619lb is an unusually beautiful/practical pm watch imo
- 15202 2 hands is rough imo
- 15202 is far more elegant than 116619.
- some people would say 116619 is far more "modern"

the bezel on subC is very useful. as is the date.

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Old 21 July 2019, 03:41 PM   #21
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Jumbo is great but I too became tired of dealing with the crown and movement. If you’re a patient man then jumbo. If not then sub lol
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Old 21 July 2019, 05:07 PM   #22
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Between the two I would go for the Smurf but we all need an AP in our lives.
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Old 21 July 2019, 05:15 PM   #23
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15202 for size, proportions, history etc. really iconic piece and as said not for every day


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Depends on others in your collection, if you have other CE Rolexes then I'd favour the AP.
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Depends on others in your collection, if you have other CE Rolexes then I'd favour the AP.


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What are your other watches?
Do you have already a Sub or a RO?

RO is a higher end watch, better finished, would be a tiny bit more scratch resistant.

Sub is more robust, gold, nice dial, heavier on the wrist.

I would go for the 202.


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Old 21 July 2019, 11:54 PM   #26
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What are your other watches?
Do you have already a Sub or a RO?

RO is a higher end watch, better finished, would be a tiny bit more scratch resistant.

Sub is more robust, gold, nice dial, heavier on the wrist.

I would go for the 202.


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Royal Oak is a scratch magnet compared to the Rolex.


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Old 22 July 2019, 12:11 AM   #27
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It is, compared to the 904L steel.
but I am comparing to the Sub white gold as per OP subject. Gold is softer than stainless steel, it will scratch much easier.


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Thanks Gus. I guess you preferred your 5711?

Imho the 5711 would be my choice by far over the 15202.

*The lower WR of the AP (no screw down crown)
*bezel damage pain (not an issue if you are OK with rich patina after a short period of ownership),
*date setting function

are the top three things I would consider.

If you haven’t seen it, here is a comparison when I owned them, prior to the current market insanity


https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=643387

Ps for what it’s worth, I am at this moment strongly considering (very likely) a 116619 purchase at this moment.
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116619lb vs 15202

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Jumbo is great but I too became tired of dealing with the crown and movement. If youíre a patient man then jumbo. If not then sub lol
One compromise is just not worrying about setting the date on the Jumbo, lol. I think the Fratello Watches guy does that.

Me, I set it, and donít find it too much trouble, but itís close. :-/ The AP winding tool helps quite a bit.

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Iíve always loved the Smurf, except for the inelegant slab side of the maxi case (one of the reasons I let my BLNR go). Love the unique colorway and the stealth wealth, along with the weight and the subtle difference in appearance of WG vs SS.

Mr Gray, any chance you could post a shot of your Smurf on your 6.5Ē wrist?
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Old 22 July 2019, 04:02 AM   #30
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If you want to do 5711 versus 116619, it's a no brainer on the 5711 :)
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For a heavy watch, the Rolex was very comfortable. The full PM with glide lock makes the watch very well balanced.
Funny, I just tried on an aluminum centigraphe from FP Journe...I think itís like 50 grams including the bracelet. I guess the exact opposite of the 116619

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i have a 15400 and a 116619LB.

i have worn a 15202.

the 15202 feels very thin and slight. it is beautiful and fits my 6.5 or so inch wrist v well. the 116619lb has been my daily since january pretty much (i was going to rotate but that has not happened).

two totally different watches i guess. the 116619lb is very heavy (228 grams all links). the glidelock is essential and comfort is great.

two great watches. i don't see how you could go wrong. i would struggle as to which to choose. the thing about the 116619lb is:
- robust
- blue dial is utterly beguiling. it's liquid wet looking gloss. very beautiful.
- 116619lb is an unusually beautiful/practical pm watch imo
- 15202 2 hands is rough imo
- 15202 is far more elegant than 116619.
- some people would say 116619 is far more "modern"

the bezel on subC is very useful. as is the date.

Thanks, I appreciate the input
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