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View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?
5712A 29 32.58%
5167A + Rolex SS Daytona + $20,000 60 67.42%
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:08 PM   #1
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Would you trade a 5712A for a 5167A, SS Daytona and $20,000 USD?

Which would you rather have?

Patek 5712A

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Patek 5167
Rolex SS DaytonaC (White Dial)
$20,000 USD
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:15 PM   #2
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Probably not. But I think the cash is right both ways in your favor slightly.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:17 PM   #3
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5167 and DaytonaC is a much more versatile duo than the 5712 alone.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:25 PM   #4
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That’s a silly question of course 5712
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:44 PM   #5
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5712, because itís very cool.


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Old 21 July 2019, 12:48 PM   #6
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Depends what other watches you have. If you literally will just have the 5712 I would go with the 2 watches and cash.
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Old 21 July 2019, 12:55 PM   #7
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Old 21 July 2019, 01:15 PM   #8
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Depends what other watches you have. If you literally will just have the 5712 I would go with the 2 watches and cash.
I get it and use the cash to buy a third watch ;)
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Old 21 July 2019, 01:36 PM   #9
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I didn't know a 5712 can be had for a 5167, daytonaC and 20k.

I still prefer the 5712 although I really like the daytonaC. It's such a special watch.
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Old 21 July 2019, 02:56 PM   #10
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depends what other watches you have. If you literally will just have the 5712 i would go with the 2 watches and cash.
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Old 21 July 2019, 02:58 PM   #11
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Old 21 July 2019, 03:39 PM   #12
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Iíd go for the 5167a, Whitona, and $20,000. And then Iíd add $21,050 and buy the 5712/1a.
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Old 21 July 2019, 03:49 PM   #13
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I would.

I love the Nautilus, but that combo plus a 5196r would be a killer threesome.
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Old 21 July 2019, 03:49 PM   #14
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I’d prefer the 5167 and 45k.
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Old 21 July 2019, 04:10 PM   #15
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Iíd prefer the 5167 and 45k.
It had to be said, lol.

The only watch I can see replacing my 5712 with is a 5711r, or maybe a 5990.

Something very special about the 5712 though. It just magically looks right with any outfit, in any setting; better than any other watch ever made.
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Old 21 July 2019, 04:41 PM   #16
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Old 21 July 2019, 06:28 PM   #17
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I have / had all 3 and I vote 5712
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Old 21 July 2019, 07:17 PM   #18
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Iíd prefer the 5167 and 45k.
This, most likely, but it would be a very tough call for me to make.
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Old 21 July 2019, 08:41 PM   #19
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Obviously and as everyone agrees, do the trade.
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Old 21 July 2019, 09:03 PM   #20
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I’d make the trade
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Old 21 July 2019, 09:06 PM   #21
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Which would you rather have?

Patek 5712A

Or

Patek 5167
Rolex SS DaytonaC (White Dial)
$20,000 USD
I assume by trade you are talking used 5167/DaytonaC? If so then it just depends on what you prefer and if you have a need for the cash. You are swopping 1 hot piece for 2 and and therefore buying and selling at the current high point.
What I don't quite understand is you decided on the 5712 ahead of the 5167 + DaytonaC when you purchased the piece so why are you now looking to change that decision?
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Old 21 July 2019, 09:40 PM   #22
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I want the 5712 most of those watches so I'd take that.

Now if a 5164 plus D500 or 5712 that would be very close, even if I didn't have a Nautilus already, I'm really not sure which way I'd go...
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Old 21 July 2019, 11:11 PM   #23
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Thatís a tempting offer for sure!!

That would be a tough decision for sure. Iíll offer this - If you have ANY hesitation whatsoever keep what you have.


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Old 21 July 2019, 11:27 PM   #24
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i have a 5712 and a ceramic Daytona and that’s a tough choice. If I know I would never have access to buying another 5712 at retail I think I would not make the trade. The 5712 is just a great watch and the 5167 doesn’t fill that gap. I have never been a huge aquanaut fan. I turned them down when they were 15k in the pre owners market why would I be happy with it now?
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Old 21 July 2019, 11:28 PM   #25
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Heck yeah, the 5712 has that dog of a dial layout. If into wearing the watches nice trade. Money-wise as things are currently it's fair.

If into 'investing' I can't say, besides 'Boooooo' and LOL at that whole practice. 😀
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Old 22 July 2019, 03:28 AM   #26
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That's about a wash at gray prices. Nobody really benefits here, i wouldn't.


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Old 22 July 2019, 03:43 AM   #27
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Patek 5167
Rolex SS DaytonaC (White Dial)
$20,000 USD

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Old 22 July 2019, 04:43 AM   #28
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This isnít really meant to be a question purely about money, itís meant to be a question as to which watch(es) you would rather have?

I like the 5712 the best among the three watches, but itís one watch. I also love the 5167 and DaytonaC, and they are two watches.

I have a small collection (only other watches are a SubC Date and a Jarger Master Moon dress watch).

Love the 5712, but like rotating watches, so tough call...
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Old 22 July 2019, 04:54 AM   #29
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This isnít really meant to be a question purely about money, itís meant to be a question as to which watch(es) you would rather have?

I like the 5712 the best among the three watches, but itís one watch. I also love the 5167 and DaytonaC, and they are two watches.

I have a small collection (only other watches are a SubC Date and a Jarger Master Moon dress watch).

Love the 5712, but like rotating watches, so tough call...
Given your personal situation, I would not do that trade. a 5712 plus a Sub and a JLC Master Moon (assume in steel) is a really great trio. I suspect that you're like me and prefer sport/steel watches to dress watches, so the JLC s a great choice for a dress watch. Save your money for the kinds of watches you really do like! In that latter category, you've got two of the very best: a sub and a steel Nautilus with a blue dial! Man!

If you went for the trade, you'd be missing the gem in your collection for two lesser watches that overlap with ones you already have. And if it's not about money, as you say, then the 20g is irrelevant. If you're smart, you're only spending play money on watches anyway.

No way I'd make that trade (given the other watches that you already have).
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Old 22 July 2019, 05:01 AM   #30
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Given your personal situation, I would not do that trade. a 5712 plus a Sub and a JLC Master Moon (assume in steel) is a really great trio. I suspect that you're like me and prefer sport/steel watches to dress watches, so the JLC s a great choice for a dress watch. Save your money for the kinds of watches you really do like! In that latter category, you've got two of the very best: a sub and a steel Nautilus with a blue dial! Man!

If you went for the trade, you'd be missing the gem in your collection for two lesser watches that overlap with ones you already have. And if it's not about money, as you say, then the 20g is irrelevant. If you're smart, you're only spending play money on watches anyway.

No way I'd make that trade (given the other watches that you already have).

Another issue for me, is as strange as it sounds, the more the 5712 goes up in re-sale value, the less comfortable I am wearing it. Wearing a $40,000 watch is one thing, but $80,000+ makes me more concerned about everything from how often I wear it to whether I scratch it to where I wear it. Maybe not a huge difference for many, but for me it is a factor.

Plus, at retail, both the 5167 and Daytona’s are under $20,000, which also makes me more comfortable wearing them.

And just to be clear, when I say it isn’t entirely about the money, I mean on a going-forward bases. The $20,000 gained in the trade is a big deal.
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