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15 November 2018, 06:28 AM | #31 | |
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The twin lock crown screwed in can also surely support 300 meters...so again, the biggest factor is the case back and crystal. The crystal is also the same. I fail to understand why you would think the water resistance would go up just because... If Rolex wanted a 300 m GMT 2 all they need to do is slap on the Subs case back, and then what.... It would serve no purpose. Sounds like we want Rolex to pull an Omega, just cross contaminate the models with features. Rolex makes a specific watch for a specific purpose. I like the product placement. Why hasn't waterproofing improved...because Rolex perfected it way back in the 60s, everything after has been generally speaking better materials(ceramics, white gold markers and hands), design(bracelet/clasp) and aesthetics (super case/maxi dials). |
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15 November 2018, 07:08 AM | #32 |
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Yup confusing, go to the timber merchants and lots of people will ask for 3 metres of 2 x 4!
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So maybe altitude is more important than diving ? You might Think ? |
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15 November 2018, 07:44 AM | #34 |
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Doesn't the Tudor GMT go to 200m?
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16 November 2018, 12:39 AM | #35 |
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You are one of very few people in Britain who exclusively use metric, especially considering speed limits are imperial here.
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16 November 2018, 12:47 AM | #36 |
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My explorer II only has a TwinLok crown and is rated to 100m/330ft. I am not afraid to go swimming with it. Maybe that watch was only designed to go up, not down. LOL
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16 November 2018, 02:35 AM | #37 |
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16 November 2018, 02:37 AM | #38 |
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16 November 2018, 02:44 AM | #40 |
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As a recreational diver none of us should be below any of the ratings for any Rolex oyster case. If you are below any of the ratings I would rely on my dive computer and the backup on my console, not my watch. I only wear my dive watches on dives because I am a watch enthusiast. I do not rely on them for the dive although I often play with them at my safety stop.
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16 November 2018, 03:15 AM | #43 | |
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But, too many folks decided that they liked the bulky look of the Trip-loc, and so one was stuck on the anemically, water-nervous, pretty-boy models. They didn't look at the unintended consequences. They did learn a lesson though, and so the newest Explorer II has a large crown to please those who only care about the aesthetics, but it still has the Twin-loc markings. This way we don't get everybody trying to turn their Exp II's into dive watches.
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16 November 2018, 04:29 AM | #45 |
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16 November 2018, 04:36 AM | #46 |
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The official brochures for each both talk about the same triplock winding crown system, oyster monoblock middle case and screw-down caseback. The submariner brochure specifically touts the oyster case whereas the GMT glosses over it and essentially leaves it to the spec sheet.
The obvious assumption that Rolex leaves you with is that it's a marketing decision and not a particular physical difference between the two watches. Otherwise the Sub is simply a GMT/insert-model-here less the GMT function and a different bezel. They want each model to be special and an easy way to do that is give the dive watch a deeper dive rating. That's not to say there isn't an unspoken difference, but based upon the Rolex marketing material (which is all I really have to go on), I would not be surprised if both the GMT and sub could withstand similar pressures. |
16 November 2018, 04:37 AM | #47 |
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I never understood why the crown on GMT's were traditionally smaller?
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Though I will admit it was a personal turn off for me on older pre-ceramic GMT’s... Whether or not it’s intended for diving or not I like the larger crown period ... |
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17 November 2018, 03:01 AM | #49 |
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17 November 2018, 03:23 AM | #51 |
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Truth be told more men have gone to the moon that descend to 300m on scuba gear the ratings on some dive watches will never be used by man or even superman in water. Bought today by some IMHO mainly for the brag factor mine is bigger than yours.
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