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ionanator · 9 August 2016, 02:58 AM

This guy is selling this Oyster Perpetual for a reasonable price. By the looks of the watch and other information he gave me I believe it is a 1977. Just looking at these pictures though the watch doesn't look right it is like no Rolex I have ever seen do you guys think it is a redial? Thank you.

Urosfan · 9 August 2016, 08:50 AM

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Hairdude1 · 9 August 2016, 01:45 PM

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MonBK · 9 August 2016, 09:32 PM

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idle spectre · 9 August 2016, 09:50 PM

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joe100 · 10 August 2016, 01:46 AM

Instead of just saying "welcome", which is useless, I'll give you real information. While that picture is terrible, I've seen that dial before, I don't like them perticularly, but they did come from the factory.

I'd be very surprised if that is a redial but without much more clear shots, I can't say for certain. You're probably okay.

Btw, what is this "reasonable" price?

bricksinthewall · 10 August 2016, 02:52 AM

It looks to be a 1501, and I don't know much about that dial. I wear one a couple of times a week and love it. It's really light weight and just a great watch to casually wear with just about anything. I paid $1600 for mine with an original riveted bracelet. Just so you know it's a 34mm head and is 19mm between the lugs.

offrdmania · 10 August 2016, 03:05 AM

If its 1977 it should have a 7835 folded link bracelet and not a riveted bracelet. What are the first 3 digits of the serial between the lug? It may be earlier than you think.

Richard Carver · 10 August 2016, 03:27 AM

It's a Date with the engine turned bezel. Very popular because it wears as wide as a DJ. Nice dial!

77T · 10 August 2016, 05:56 AM

IIRC C&I rivet bracelets were made at least until 1976. Have seen clasp codes up to that period. Possibly was a 1976 serial number but only sold in 1977?

77T · 10 August 2016, 05:57 AM

Oh, and "welcome"

lee fowler · 10 August 2016, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

If its 1977 it should have a 7835 folded link bracelet and not a riveted bracelet. What are the first 3 digits of the serial between the lug? It may be earlier than you think.

That will depend on Country of origin and welcome to the madhouse that is TRF.

offrdmania · 10 August 2016, 06:50 AM

European, I wasnt talking C&I USA. My bad for not being specific

ionanator · 10 August 2016, 07:38 AM

Thank you for all of the info guys. I agree the pics he provided are terrible. The price is $1,500 with box and papers. This will be my first Rolex purchase so I was a bit hesitant since I have never seen this type of dial. Before purchasing I was planning on meeting the guy at an AD or perhaps a local jeweler, I'm not looking to get a full inspection as those can take a few days I've heard but I would definitely feel more comfortable with an expert at least opening it up to check the movement.

Richard Carver · 10 August 2016, 08:35 AM

Yes, check for corrosion and have the back gasket replaced while he's in there, they'll usually just throw one on there for you or just a few bucks.

Old Expat Beast · 10 August 2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by joe100

Instead of just saying "welcome", which is useless, I'll give you real information. While that picture is terrible, I've seen that dial before, I don't like them perticularly, but they did come from the factory.

I'd be very surprised if that is a redial but without much more clear shots, I can't say for certain. You're probably okay.

Btw, what is this "reasonable" price?

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Oh, and "welcome"

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77T · 10 August 2016, 09:00 AM

Thanks Adam - I figured as much - and had to have just a little fun!

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rollyp · 10 August 2016, 04:49 PM

Here's basically the same watch but with a domed bezel, which is odd for a 1501 since most that you see have the engine turned bezel as shown in the first post.

https://www.wannabuyawatch.com/produ...el-circa-1971/

Compared to the price this dealer is asking, $1500 is a steal with box and papers. Almost too good of a deal, actually...

crowncollection · 10 August 2016, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rollyp

Here's basically the same watch but with a domed bezel, which is odd for a 1501 since most that you see have the engine turned bezel as shown in the first post.

https://www.wannabuyawatch.com/produ...el-circa-1971/

Compared to the price this dealer is asking, $1500 is a steal with box and papers. Almost too good of a deal, actually...

The watch you show is a 1500 or should be if that's it's original bezel.

To the op. The dial is a known variant, the price is ok. Check the midcase if you can for corrosion and to check the movement.

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offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,849	If its 1977 it should have a 7835 folded link bracelet and not a riveted bracelet. What are the first 3 digits of the serial between the lug? It may be earlier than you think. __________________ TRF Member 11738

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77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,736	IIRC C&I rivet bracelets were made at least until 1976. Have seen clasp codes up to that period. Possibly was a 1976 serial number but only sold in 1977? __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

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bricksinthewall "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Dallas Watch: 16600 Posts: 95	It looks to be a 1501, and I don't know much about that dial. I wear one a couple of times a week and love it. It's really light weight and just a great watch to casually wear with just about anything. I paid $1600 for mine with an original riveted bracelet. Just so you know it's a 34mm head and is 19mm between the lugs.

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Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	It's a Date with the engine turned bezel. Very popular because it wears as wide as a DJ. Nice dial!

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offrdmania 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 X2 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,849	European, I wasnt talking C&I USA. My bad for not being specific __________________ TRF Member 11738

10 August 2016, 07:38 AM	#14
ionanator "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Chicago Posts: 37	Thank you for all of the info guys. I agree the pics he provided are terrible. The price is $1,500 with box and papers. This will be my first Rolex purchase so I was a bit hesitant since I have never seen this type of dial. Before purchasing I was planning on meeting the guy at an AD or perhaps a local jeweler, I'm not looking to get a full inspection as those can take a few days I've heard but I would definitely feel more comfortable with an expert at least opening it up to check the movement.

10 August 2016, 08:35 AM	#15
Richard Carver "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: US Posts: 2,237	Yes, check for corrosion and have the back gasket replaced while he's in there, they'll usually just throw one on there for you or just a few bucks.

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77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,736	Thanks Adam - I figured as much - and had to have just a little fun! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

10 August 2016, 04:49 PM	#18
rollyp "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Wherever I am Watch: where your hand is Posts: 236	Here's basically the same watch but with a domed bezel, which is odd for a 1501 since most that you see have the engine turned bezel as shown in the first post. https://www.wannabuyawatch.com/produ...el-circa-1971/ Compared to the price this dealer is asking, $1500 is a steal with box and papers. Almost too good of a deal, actually...

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