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violin321 · 10 August 2019, 11:34 AM

I'm selling a car, and a buyer offered a trade for a Rolex Submariner that was inherited from a grandfather. I've done my best homework via the forum to try and authenticate myself, but my results are inconclusive. Would appreciate the input from someone more experienced than I. What do you think? Real or fake?

Based on my forum research, there are a couple of red flags: 1) The hologram sticker has the Rolex logo on it--and I read that it didn't appear on the sticker until after 2002. 2) On the outside of the bracelet, just above the Rolex logo, the spot where you pull to unclasp the bracelet looks different (deep, square) compared to others I've seen.

I'm aware that one of the links on the bracelet is broken.

Thanks for the help.

Lol-x · 10 August 2019, 03:34 PM

Fake..

Old Expat Beast · 10 August 2019, 05:04 PM

Total junk.

Andad · 10 August 2019, 05:08 PM

There you have the answer.

rolex_DateJust · 10 August 2019, 05:46 PM

The black nail polish is probably worth more than that.

crazymcmichael · 10 August 2019, 06:24 PM

Blegh

interestedwatcher · 10 August 2019, 06:35 PM

Nice date window.

lyktestolpe · 10 August 2019, 07:44 PM

Bull cr@p

N5XTC · 10 August 2019, 07:48 PM

font is all wrong. "swiss made" indicates that it would have been a relatively modern sub, not something you'd inherit from a "grandfather" (making it sound vintage).

Jamie1111 · 10 August 2019, 08:27 PM

Fake for sure

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Subterranean · 10 August 2019, 08:39 PM

12 ' o'clock marker looks wrong

watchnut100 · 10 August 2019, 08:42 PM

Chinese junk

Zakalwe · 10 August 2019, 09:20 PM

The epidemic of grandfathers fencing counterfeit goods continues apace.

I really hope in future to read more original and entertaining made-up stories on this sub-forum.

beshannon · 10 August 2019, 10:32 PM

If your car is fake I say go for it!

edweather · 10 August 2019, 10:51 PM

GRANDFATHER?............Slowly I turn.......

Masteryacht · 10 August 2019, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beshannon

If your car is fake I say go for it!

Now that made me laugh out loud.

Buzzlite · 11 August 2019, 01:52 AM

1000% fake......

lx384 · 11 August 2019, 01:58 AM

Keep the car.

CorradoBrit · 11 August 2019, 02:25 AM

Only do the deal if you're selling one of these

Tools · 11 August 2019, 03:50 AM

Good Lord, what research could you possibly do that would make anybody think that this could be authentic?

Some fakes may be difficult to determine without close inspection..... this is not one of those.

214270Explorer · 11 August 2019, 04:21 AM

Yet ANOTHER in the seemingly endless line of "Grandpa's watch" stories.

Must be a Constitutional requirement for posting here.

I am far from an expert but this is one of the easiest-to-spot fakes I have yet seen here.

vintagetudor · 11 August 2019, 04:27 AM

yawn

twitch54 · 11 August 2019, 04:43 AM

very handsome piece ..........

Burlington · 11 August 2019, 04:44 AM

Definitely not - it’s missing the bezel pip :)

2th_doc · 11 August 2019, 04:48 AM

Im sensing OP is actually the owner of that watch. And is gonna try to sell it. But wanted to use TRF to determine how good, but in this case how bad of a fake it is.

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thesharkfactor · 11 August 2019, 07:35 AM

Did anyone actually ever inherit a genuine Submariner from a grandfather?

locutus49 · 11 August 2019, 08:02 AM

Inherited watches are almost always suspect if being offered for sale. A conspiracy of grandfathers.

Onikage · 11 August 2019, 08:06 AM

Fit and finish generally isn't disgusting on a real one. Perhaps the top right lug is just underpolished?

crowncollection · 11 August 2019, 09:33 AM

Ouch

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77T · 11 August 2019, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2th_doc

Im sensing OP is actually the owner of that watch. And is gonna try to sell it. But wanted to use TRF to determine how good, but in this case how bad of a fake it is.

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Good spidey sense.
More of this than ever before.

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10 August 2019, 03:34 PM	#2
Lol-x Facilitator Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Steve Location: Omnipresent Posts: 33,241	Fake.. __________________ *Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.* ~Abraham Lincoln Nothing compares to the simple pleasure of a bike ride. ~John F. Kennedy ROLEXploitation - yeah I'm a victim

10 August 2019, 05:04 PM	#3
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,362	Total junk. __________________ _______________________

10 August 2019, 05:08 PM	#4
Andad 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 36,798	There you have the answer. __________________ E

10 August 2019, 05:46 PM	#5
rolex_DateJust 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Sergio Location: Miami, FL Watch: Yes please! Posts: 1,695	The black nail polish is probably worth more than that. __________________ ♛ 126610LV ♛ 16220 Salmon ♛ 16713 Rootbeer Ω Speedmaster Moonwatch The choice that will last a lifetime

10 August 2019, 07:48 PM	#9
N5XTC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Real Name: Scott Location: Hampton, Virginia Watch: 2008 Submariner Posts: 224	font is all wrong. "swiss made" indicates that it would have been a relatively modern sub, not something you'd inherit from a "grandfather" (making it sound vintage). __________________ 2008 Submariner, Explorer MK2, Omega Seamaster 300m, 1958 Omega Seamaster, 1963 Le Coultre Mystery Dial, 1950 Bulova Ashford, 1973 Bulova Accutron "A man with one watch knows what time it is while a man with two is never sure."

10 August 2019, 06:24 PM	#6
crazymcmichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Here Watch: Sub 114060, 216570 Posts: 2,157	Blegh

10 August 2019, 06:35 PM	#7
interestedwatcher 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Perth Posts: 974	Nice date window.

10 August 2019, 07:44 PM	#8
lyktestolpe "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Norway Watch: 116610 LN Posts: 200	Bull cr@p

10 August 2019, 08:27 PM	#10
Jamie1111 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 809	Fake for sure Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10 August 2019, 08:39 PM	#11
Subterranean "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Australia Watch: 1989 16610 Sub Posts: 242	12 ' o'clock marker looks wrong

10 August 2019, 08:42 PM	#12
watchnut100 SCUMBAG Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: uk Posts: 341	Chinese junk

10 August 2019, 09:20 PM	#13
Zakalwe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Real Name: Sal Location: London Posts: 2,496	The epidemic of grandfathers fencing counterfeit goods continues apace. I really hope in future to read more original and entertaining made-up stories on this sub-forum. __________________ “Never argue with idiots. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Mark Twain

10 August 2019, 10:32 PM	#14
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,895	If your car is fake I say go for it! __________________ Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Glashutte Senator Exellence, Rolex 116710 GMT Master II BLNR, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent

10 August 2019, 10:51 PM	#15
edweather "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Ed Location: Georgia, USA Watch: Casio Illuminator Posts: 650	GRANDFATHER?............Slowly I turn....... __________________ An expert under pressure is a drip.

11 August 2019, 01:52 AM	#17
Buzzlite "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Ireland Posts: 322	1000% fake......

11 August 2019, 01:58 AM	#18
lx384 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Real Name: Lemuel Location: Asia Posts: 254	Keep the car.

11 August 2019, 03:50 AM	#20
Tools TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: May 2007 Real Name: Larry Location: Mojave Desert Watch: GMT's Posts: 43,049	Good Lord, what research could you possibly do that would make anybody think that this could be authentic? Some fakes may be difficult to determine without close inspection..... this is not one of those. __________________ (Chill ... It's just a watch Forum.....) NAWCC Member

11 August 2019, 04:21 AM	#21
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	Yet ANOTHER in the seemingly endless line of "Grandpa's watch" stories. Must be a Constitutional requirement for posting here. I am far from an expert but this is one of the easiest-to-spot fakes I have yet seen here. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

11 August 2019, 04:27 AM	#22
vintagetudor "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: united kingdom Posts: 123	yawn

11 August 2019, 04:43 AM	#23
twitch54 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: 'Bobby' Location: SE Pa Watch: 1888 Appleton Trac Posts: 982	very handsome piece ..........

11 August 2019, 04:44 AM	#24
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,635	Definitely not - it’s missing the bezel pip :) __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

11 August 2019, 04:48 AM	#25
2th_doc "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Atl Posts: 920	Im sensing OP is actually the owner of that watch. And is gonna try to sell it. But wanted to use TRF to determine how good, but in this case how bad of a fake it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11 August 2019, 07:35 AM	#26
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,488	Did anyone actually ever inherit a genuine Submariner from a grandfather?

11 August 2019, 08:02 AM	#27
locutus49 Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: John Location: La Jolla, CA Watch: Platona Posts: 12,194	Inherited watches are almost always suspect if being offered for sale. A conspiracy of grandfathers.

11 August 2019, 08:06 AM	#28
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Fit and finish generally isn't disgusting on a real one. Perhaps the top right lug is just underpolished? __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

11 August 2019, 09:33 AM	#29
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,157	Ouch Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ watches many

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