Would you do it...??

[SearChart]

I thought the Rainbow was the ultimate Daytona?
No, I wouldn't do that trade.

[Alex6340]

Originally Posted by Richris1

I did post on vintage forum. That vote is Waaaaay different
I actually can do a 6263 for the 3 PM pieces I mentioned..OR...a 6265 for 2 PM pieces. Either deal can be made
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL WATCHES



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Oh boy. So glad I don’t have to take the decision


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[doramas]

Noooooooo...!

[RMC12]

I don't think I could do it either. I would have to vote no. I would love to add another vintage piece to go with my 1680 but don't think I could do it at the expense of 3 PM's - unless it was the absolute 100% watch you are wanting and not "almost" the one you want.

Good luck!!!

[Langnam]

Originally Posted by Shamorai

I think that after the thrill of the purchase passes, you will come to see it as just an old watch, and nowhere near as nice as the ones you traded for it. Although, you know your likes and dislikes better than anyone.

This. Sorry guys. Vintage watches are just beat up old watches.

Stick to modern.


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[jaySL350]

No way
A price correction in the near future could be a problem but even so
Keep what you have


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[1William]

I think that you are giving up too much to get what I know to be a very collectable piece. How much would you wear it? You have an amazing collection, I would just sit tight and wear what you have.

[Rolexavidfan]

I would get the WG Daytona Oysterflex which resembles like a Big Red. Not a big fan of vintage which price has gone insane!


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[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by Langnam

NFW! More Rolex = mo betta.


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Originally Posted by J_1964

Nope, Not Me Either....

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

I know nothing about the vintage market. I'm glad.

Originally Posted by MinMay

As any collector, I would do it. I rather have 1 ultimate grail

Originally Posted by watchwatcher

My initial thought was no when I read your post. After seeing some of the responses here, especially from those that know what they're talking about, I'm doubly sure....no way, my friend.

Originally Posted by 05carbondrz

No,The Vintage Daytona Market is at a all Time crazy level...There has to be a price correction soon.

Originally Posted by hai.tranhr

No for sure!

Originally Posted by faz

+1



Same here. No knowledge of vintage market, so if you are buying it to show off to me, don't!



(just kidding about the show off part of course.)

Originally Posted by envuks

Personally, I think you’re absolutely insane to even consider this. However, I’ll preface that I also think the vintage Rolex market is also absolutely insane and I personally do not get the appeal.

Originally Posted by SG56

Another, nope!

Originally Posted by nick c

Another vote for big Noooooooo

Originally Posted by bruinmd

What he said

Originally Posted by Jason71

Yea......I love vintage Rolex, but that price is insane. I would never do that trade. Vintage Rolex of that caliber is for the ultra wealthy IMHO.

Originally Posted by Finslayer83

No. Insane.



Move the WG pieces and get a Daytona C white face. Go modern and refreshing for a new take on retirement.

Originally Posted by Al1969

Hi Rich,

I’m going with “NO” as well. However, out of curiosity.
Any chance you have pics of what you’re trading and trading for?

Originally Posted by superstarmar

Another BIG NO Rich ...

Originally Posted by Carry The Interest

"Ignorance is bliss" applies here with my lack of expert knowledge on vintage pieces.

Best of luck with your decision, OP. You must really want this one because you are giving up some serious pieces to make this deal work.

Originally Posted by Jace

I have done some crazy watch deals on some pricey watches. I agree. NFW. The Rolex preowned market is currently crazy. Look what you are giving up.


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Originally Posted by nyc2la

No. Way.

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Hi Richard another NO!!!!!!!! here . Perhaps you can pursue a different vintage Daytona that does not require you to put so much $$ into it ? As many say, the grass of your neighbor many times seems to be greener than yours...... enjoy the awesome pieces you own and pass on this one

Originally Posted by Tebow15

I vote no


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Originally Posted by jvd99

I voted no, but there's a small part hoping you pull the trigger just to see if you regret it later

Originally Posted by brandrea

I wonder what your poll would say if you posted on the vintage forum

Originally Posted by subtona

Not for me.

Originally Posted by ROLEXster

No No No No No No No No No No No No No No No

Just No ......

Originally Posted by air_king

I have to agree, a little steep.

Originally Posted by kauebm

This is my sentiment as well.

Would also like to see pics of said big read.

Originally Posted by superdog

Please. No.

Originally Posted by teabags001

Seems to me if all 100 percent original and no replacement parts the deal definitely favors you making the trade. The prices on that Daytona are well above what you could ask for for the 3 pieces imo (110k and up) and the condition seems to be near perfect. Maybe a red flag? Comes with box and papers I assume? If yes then I would do that trade tomorrow.


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Originally Posted by Phrank

Do it - once in a lifetime, Daytona 6263 Big Red, put it on, never take it off....others always available....just my opinion - YMMV.

Originally Posted by Etschell

eh id rather have a richard mille for that kind of scratch.

Originally Posted by playmore009

I get it. You want something you don’t have right now. It may be the ultimate Daytona but I would never go that trade. Never!!!


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Originally Posted by 101031-28

No Sir, not even for a minute would I entertain letting go of the ones you have for the 6263 Daytona. Yes, it is a nice watch (way too hyped IMO) but not worth parting from those you have.

Originally Posted by matthundreds

It is not a trade I would make. That said, if that is your absolute grail watch and your grail watch hasn’t changed with all the other watches you’ve acquired over the years - go for it. It’s so hard to not chase a moving target! Great collection btw.

Originally Posted by ap1

agree, no way

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

That's sounds like your giving up too much to me.

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Originally Posted by sco

No way. I'd keep the three you have and enjoy them forever.

Would you wear the 6263 like you would the PM's you currently own?

Originally Posted by BNA/LION

I'm conflicted because on the one hand the watch is Fantastic and it would be great to have but if you are not going to wear it as much as you would rotate the others then why get it. Being retired I tend to rotate my watches less than I used to. If I got my "Grail" I would wear it all the time and It wouldn't matter if the others were gone. IMHO


Good Luck with your decision...

Originally Posted by huncho

no way

Originally Posted by BrazenC5

You're getting about 80k trade value? If so, I would do it, you'd have built in equity as a cushion if you need to flip the Daytona in the future.



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Originally Posted by GB-man

I know both of those watches. I am no expert by a long shot but neither is a grade A example. For the scratch you’re sacrifcing I would wait for a grade A example. Be patient.



Also no I wouldn’t do it. Buy a 1675 or 5513 and see if you like wearing an old watch. It’s not for everyone.



I almost bought a mint 6263 off eBay about 3-4 years ago for 37k. Complete set and gorgeous. Many educated members argued it was priced looney tunes and others said hey it’s a really nice correct example lol



I can’t shake that memory when shopping them.

Originally Posted by CoveWatch

I can see the appeal in having the opportunity to have your grail watch... but as you mentioned, it’s “almost” the perfect Daytona so you’d probably still want that perfect one... so I’d wait for that

Originally Posted by AK797

I would pass, the only vintage Daytona I would buy is a PN, just like an early mk red sub would be the only vintage Sub I would buy. All or nothing for me with vintage.

Originally Posted by RHJ

The 6263 Big Red has now this high value because it's hyped, not for the horological value as watch! The three you have won't fall just for their own standing without being hyped... I would never do this!

Originally Posted by 1st amg

Hey Richard, that is a huge steep price to pay to move three incredible pieces to end up with one hell of a collector piece. Are you doing this for the love of this watch or as an investment that it could keep going up in value. Those are legitimate questions I think. AND, I think you retired recently and was looking for something new to do......better do it fast buddy.....an idle mind is a dangerous mind!


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Originally Posted by HL65

I would not do it Rich and think you should let the feeling pass. You are paying more than I paid for 6241 Paul Newman and 6239 Paul Newman and twice what I paid for my last 2 6263's and mine were complete sets as well. Mine weren't in excellent condition they were in stupid pristine condition as well. So if you go down that road and with your tendency to trade watches you will take a nice beating IMHO.

Originally Posted by 1William

I think that you are giving up too much to get what I know to be a very collectable piece. How much would you wear it? You have an amazing collection, I would just sit tight and wear what you have.

Originally Posted by droptopman

As much as I love vintage, some models have risen so much the last few years, I would almost be afraid to wear it. I love Rolex because I do not have to worry about wearing one. I moved my vintage pieces a couple years ago because of this. I know it sounds weird but they became too valuable to wear regularly. I am not a real collector so did not make sense to pay a huge insurance premium and not wear them much.

Originally Posted by Kostas

Yeah , nah, No deal :)

Originally Posted by Rolexavidfan

I would get the WG Daytona Oysterflex which resembles like a Big Red. Not a big fan of vintage which price has gone insane!


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Originally Posted by soundwave

No. Lets not add to the vintage Daytona hype.


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Originally Posted by SearChart

I thought the Rainbow was the ultimate Daytona?

No, I wouldn't do that trade.

What an awesome group of enthusiasts we have here! I’ll say it again....very glad to be part of this community!
Thank you all for the advice...As much as I love vintage, I’m not going to do this trade. I think I’d miss the variety too much, and as someone else pointed out ....the 116519LN pretty much nails it for scratching that itch :)
Thanks again ladies and gents!



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[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by Richris1

What an awesome group of enthusiasts we have here! I’ll say it again....very glad to be part of this community!
Thank you all for the advice...As much as I love vintage, I’m not going to do this trade. I think I’d miss the variety too much, and as someone else pointed out ....the 116519LN pretty much nails it for scratching that itch
Thanks again ladies and gents!



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Glad to hear that!


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[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Richris1

What an awesome group of enthusiasts we have here! I’ll say it again....very glad to be part of this community!
Thank you all for the advice...As much as I love vintage, I’m not going to do this trade. I think I’d miss the variety too much, and as someone else pointed out ....the 116519LN pretty much nails it for scratching that itch :)
Thanks again ladies and gents!



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for those like me who need a picture :-)

[Divingdeep87]

I’m gonna go against the others. You are retired right? A vintage daytona and a 40 gold dd. That is all you f**king need! End game watches. But I would sell the others private and buy the daytona cash and ask for a little discount! Maybe add the daytona WG on oyster later for the hot days.

[T01]

I’d pass personally.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Richris1

I know ultimately it’s a decision made by me, get what you’ll love etc....
BUT...since this would be a major trade, I’d just like to hear others thoughts. Always appreciate this forum for the wisdom

I am a huge Daytona fan and have what I consider to be “Almost” the ultimate Daytona...
I have an opportunity to do a 3/1 trade....3 PM Rolex for a SS Rolex...the Daytona, IMO that’s an ultimate Daytona...6263 Big Red, silver dial, excellent condition, all original, reputable seller, etc...
Rolex I’d be left with: YG DD40 and 16600.
Trading WG GMT, WG DD 40, and PT Daytona.

Thoughts appreciated as always

Richard,

Have you tried a 4 digit Daytona?

I'm asking because I wore one as a daily for 13 years. Its a very different proposition to a six digit one, let alone a platinum six digit one.

Smaller, lighter, much less robust, manual wind. All of those are obvious, of course, but you need to wear one to fully appreciate how different it is.

Value aside, I sold mine and bought a 16610 and found the Sub to be just a better watch. And if a NOS 6263 was trading at the same price as my old RG Daytona I'd pick the 6 digit all day long.

I'm saying this because the hype, mystique and adulation attracted by 4 digit Daytonas is way, way, way above the reality of the watch itself, in my opinion as a past long term owner.

So, if you are buying it because you want (or think you want) a 4 digit Daytona because its the ultimate Daytona, then my answer is no. Not in a million years. Not for half the price. Because its not. Its a lovely watch, but no 4 digit Daytona is the ultimate Daytona by any measure other than investment potential.

If you are looking at it purely from a financial perspective of potential investment returns then go for it.

But the two you've posted, whilst nice, have had work. Protruding spring bar ends on both (may be the wrong bars - may have over reworked cases) and you could do much better if that's the route you take

Edit: Just seen you've passed on the idea. I think that's 100% the right decision

[rmlovett1]

Originally Posted by VicLeChic

for those like me who need a picture :-)

That bracelet on the 116519 would be wish it would come from Rolex that way

Originally Posted by fskywalker

Glad to hear that!


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Originally Posted by Devildog

Richard,

Have you tried a 4 digit Daytona?

I'm asking because I wore one as a daily for 13 years. Its a very different proposition to a six digit one, let alone a platinum six digit one.

Smaller, lighter, much less robust, manual wind. All of those are obvious, of course, but you need to wear one to fully appreciate how different it is.

Value aside, I sold mine and bought a 16610 and found the Sub to be just a better watch. And if a NOS 6263 was trading at the same price as my old RG Daytona I'd pick the 6 digit all day long.

I'm saying this because the hype, mystique and adulation attracted by 4 digit Daytonas is way, way, way above the reality of the watch itself, in my opinion as a past long term owner.

So, if you are buying it because you want (or think you want) a 4 digit Daytona because its the ultimate Daytona, then my answer is no. Not in a million years. Not for half the price. Because its not. Its a lovely watch, but no 4 digit Daytona is the ultimate Daytona by any measure other than investment potential.

If you are looking at it purely from a financial perspective of potential investment returns then go for it.

But the two you've posted, whilst nice, have had work. Protruding spring bar ends on both (may be the wrong bars - may have over reworked cases) and you could do much better if that's the route you take

Edit: Just seen you've passed on the idea. I think that's 100% the right decision

Thank again for your perspective...very helpful!

[AK797]

I like the 6265 even less so no for me again. If you could sell 2 for the 63 I might give it some thought.

[Cru Jones]

No from me, too. But, truth be told, vintage at that price is lost on me.... I’d rather have and wear the three you propose to trade.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by Richris1

I did post on vintage forum. That vote is Waaaaay different
I actually can do a 6263 for the 3 PM pieces I mentioned..OR...a 6265 for 2 PM pieces. Either deal can be made
THESE ARE THE ACTUAL WATCHES



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They are not in excellent condition. If you want to see true mint 6263's or older Daytona's have a look at some of the pics of my watches in older posts. I wouldn't even consider either of those if the price was right which it isn't.

[lhanddds]

Good choice Richard


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[VicLeChic]

Originally Posted by Richris1

That bracelet on the 116519 would be wish it would come from Rolex that way

Thank again for your perspective...very helpful!

I would also prefer it to the Oysterflex.

[jdmi32]

I much prefer vintage to modern but even I would not do that trade.

[fskywalker]

[QUOTE=Richris1;8757320]That bracelet on the 116519 would be wish it would come from Rolex that way [QUOTE]

If you love that look why not just sourcing the black ceramic bezel and doing the swap on yours to be just like that? Not to long ago someone got a hold of the black bezel from a 116500; in any case way cheaper than pursuing the 4 digit Daytona

[rmlovett1]

[QUOTE=fskywalker;8757997][QUOTE=Richris1;8757320]That bracelet on the 116519 would be wish it would come from Rolex that way

If you love that look why not just sourcing the black ceramic bezel and doing the swap on yours to be just like that? Not to long ago someone got a hold of the black bezel from a 116500; in any case way cheaper than pursuing the 4 digit Daytona

I agree for now I’ll just stick to the 116519LN

[Bigblu10]

[QUOTE=Richris1;8758045][QUOTE=fskywalker;8757997]

Originally Posted by Richris1

That bracelet on the 116519 would be wish it would come from Rolex that way

I agree for now I’ll just stick to the 116519LN

You have done many thread polls lately for your watch portfolio. Are you currently bored with your pieces, or are the gears in your head spinning in overdrive now you have retired time on your hands?
Any pics of your current lineup?

[NLYogi]

Meh, makes no sense (to me). I mean if you would trade for some endboss Patek or something, I could understand. Just like Rambo said: “let it go”.

[richard371]

Sell one of the gold models and get a 116500ln white and then you will have 2 of the nicest Daytona’s. The 116500ln white is somewhat close to the big red but higher quality in just about every way. Also perfect size.

[horonet17]

No way. Have you tried on one of the vintage Daytonas in person? They don't feel like the 6 or even 7 figure watches they've become.

[HubbleNox]

I vote 'Trade',

unless you wear more than one watch at a time.

[DahMan]

Ok

[acfcheung]

That sounds quite insane. I wouldn't do it.

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