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Old 16 June 2019, 08:06 AM   #1
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Big Brother is tracking you

In Stores, Secret Surveillance Tracks Your Every Move

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...&region=Footer

I don’t have a smart phone, but keep my flip phone in a faraday pouch.
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Old 16 June 2019, 08:35 AM   #2
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I want them to track me. After all I am the real Neo.
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Old 16 June 2019, 08:57 AM   #3
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That's insane and makes you wonder how far they'll be willing to take this. So much undisclosed but at least this part was a bit helpful:

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To protect yourself from beacons in the short term, you can delete any apps that may be spying on you — including apps from retailers — and shut off location services and Bluetooth where they are not needed. You can also follow The Times’s guide on how to stop apps from tracking your location. For Android users, the F-Droid app store hosts free and open- source apps that do not spy on users with hidden trackers.
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Old 16 June 2019, 09:11 AM   #4
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Never have BT/location services running when not absolutely needed. Apps get only permission to use those functions they absolutely need to work the way I need them to work.

What I consider the real "problem", and I'm not really wearing a tin foil hat, is that I find that I'm not trusting any of these settings anymore at all. And reports of how some companies try to sneak past those settings/ take the if it's not prohibited, it's ok approach - as long as we burry it somewhere deep down in our TOS doesn't help either.


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Old 16 June 2019, 09:21 AM   #5
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I don’t have a smart phone, but keep my flip phone in a faraday pouch.
Then you’ve bugger all to be concerned about!
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Old 16 June 2019, 09:23 AM   #6
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It’s how the Rolex ADs know you left the house so they can stash all the S/S models in the back room


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Old 16 June 2019, 09:26 AM   #7
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It’s how the Rolex ADs know you left the house so they can stash all the S/S models in the back room


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Old 16 June 2019, 09:26 AM   #8
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I want them to track me. After all I am the real Neo.


. Are you sure?? I’m the real Neo...


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Old 16 June 2019, 10:17 AM   #9
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Old 16 June 2019, 10:56 AM   #10
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Old 16 June 2019, 01:49 PM   #11
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Imagine how much you’d be tracked wearing an Apple Watch.


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Old 16 June 2019, 02:00 PM   #12
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They already have a profile on you and there is no way to stop the Data Collection. Every digital move you make is part of who you are now... But who is to say you can't change. Just start developing a alter Data Ego buy searching and shopping for dumb stuff you don't give a crap about and maybe we can confuse the data collectors? Not likely but might be a fun exercise.
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Old 16 June 2019, 02:25 PM   #13
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When I had an internship at Daytona speedway I learned about this. They were installing them. If you downloaded daytona's app they would send you notifications. Lets say stand a had a long line and you were by stand b had no wait. If you were by stand a they would send you a notification to go to stand b since there was no wait. Also if you bought lots of hot dogs at the track they have a record. So the next time you visit the speedway they could send you a coupon for 20% off if you bought a hot dog and drink. A lot of sports stadiums are adding this.
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Old 16 June 2019, 03:02 PM   #14
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Hah, I have built and installed all kinds of systems like this. TBH, bt is old school, its way worse now. AMA!
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Old 16 June 2019, 03:04 PM   #15
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The NSA can track your car with your EZ-Pass, even when you're not going through a toll plaza. Nothing surprises me with surveillance. We're living in a Minority Report world.
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Old 16 June 2019, 03:04 PM   #16
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I switch off location services unless using the maps. You also have to watch out for ‘significant locations ‘ within the system services menu of the iPhone. There are so many tricks for tracking ! I also use a VPN.
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Old 16 June 2019, 06:58 PM   #17
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is it true that a satellite can zoom in close up on any one of us if needed, but its not allowed to be used?

I thought i noticed that after talking on the phone, things that were related to my conversation were cropping up on my viewing suggestions.......or did i imagine it?

i also heard that new cars will have a tracking device wired into the loom,again i dont know if this is true.
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Old 16 June 2019, 07:44 PM   #18
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I switch off location services unless using the maps. You also have to watch out for ‘significant locations ‘ within the system services menu of the iPhone. There are so many tricks for tracking ! I also use a VPN.
Does use of a VPN cause any problems with TRF?
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Old 16 June 2019, 08:04 PM   #19
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Does use of a VPN cause any problems with TRF?
No problems whatsoever. I originally set up the VPN for security while using public WiFi. Public WiFi too risky otherwise.
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Old 16 June 2019, 09:14 PM   #20
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is it true that a satellite can zoom in close up on any one of us if needed, but its not allowed to be used?

I thought i noticed that after talking on the phone, things that were related to my conversation were cropping up on my viewing suggestions.......or did i imagine it?

i also heard that new cars will have a tracking device wired into the loom,again i dont know if this is true.
Satellites have awesome imaging power. They can read the name on a golf ball. But there aren't that many of them, and nobody is going to pull a huge national security asset off of important missions to spy on an average guy. If the satellite is watching you, the SAS is right around the corner ready to pounce on you.

Surveillance is everywhere now though. Cameras and facial recognition equipment saturate large cities. You are constantly watched, whether by government or commercial entities.

And don't discount your phone and in home IOT devices (e.g. Amazon's Alexa). Terms of service allow apps and devices to spy on you. Phone apps like Tapatalk spy on you constantly and report back to advertisers. When you click accept on their TOS you sign yourself up to be spied on.
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Satellites have awesome imaging power. They can read the name on a golf ball. But there aren't that many of them, and nobody is going to pull a huge national security asset off of important missions to spy on an average guy. If the satellite is watching you, the SAS is right around the corner ready to pounce on you.

Surveillance is everywhere now though. Cameras and facial recognition equipment saturate large cities. You are constantly watched, whether by government or commercial entities.

And don't discount your phone and in home IOT devices (e.g. Amazon's Alexa). Terms of service allow apps and devices to spy on you. Phone apps like Tapatalk spy on you constantly and report back to advertisers. When you click accept on their TOS you sign yourself up to be spied on.


i wonder when enough is enough, i wonder if people will look back and say that it was all worth it.

i really like being able to do innocent things privately, maybe others dont share this same normality.
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Old 16 June 2019, 10:22 PM   #22
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“They” have to be plenty bored if they are tracking me
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Old 16 June 2019, 10:28 PM   #23
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...but it's allright....everything is allright....I love Big Brother.
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Old 16 June 2019, 10:45 PM   #24
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Location is always off unless I'm driving using maps. BT is always on because I'm usually on the phone driving to and from work. I went to BJ's last night and bought baby wipes. When I came home and was scrolling on my phone, an ad for the same brand of diapers popped up.
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Old 16 June 2019, 10:51 PM   #25
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LOL! My sentiments exactly!
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Old 16 June 2019, 11:56 PM   #26
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Exactly, I am boring as shite, maybe they can send me notifications of things that could make me less boring?!


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Old 17 June 2019, 12:07 AM   #27
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Old 17 June 2019, 02:11 AM   #28
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I can understand that some people want to live in complete privacy or even as a recluse and in that case don’t use a smart phone (or at least don't allow certain apps) and go out in a disguise.

I don’t do anything I’m ashamed of or intentionally dishonestly (apart from perhaps speeding on the motorway.)

If these ‘spying’ apps can make my queuing shorter or guide me to a product I may want or could be cheaper – I’m up for it.
If the apps become more sinister, I will reappraise my view
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Old 17 June 2019, 03:17 AM   #29
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What you don't know can't hurt you.

Or can it.

It's funny/ironic that Apple had the famous anti 1984 commercial and they turn out to be the Big Brother enabler.
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Old 17 June 2019, 03:43 AM   #30
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