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Pocosso · 28 September 2018, 09:45 PM

I understand that it is a difficult decision. I personally like more the 5990.
The 5712, if the rumor that they will discontinue it soon is true, may be a good investment...

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uniqueMR · 29 September 2018, 01:21 AM

Congrats, nice watch..

Double Barrel · 29 September 2018, 02:34 PM

5990

Passionata · 29 September 2018, 06:37 PM

12 or 90

Sonzy · 30 September 2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SW1

5712...5990 too chunky...who needs a chrono anyway

I totally agree.

jcoltrane · 30 September 2018, 02:04 PM

If you don’t have a nautilus the 5990 is a fine watch. If you realize how thin the 5711/5712 is, I agree the 5990 looks and feels very chunky. Same issue with aquanauts and the new 5968.

JorgeCCW · 30 September 2018, 02:41 PM

5990 can be bought from AD , and 5712 can’t or it’s incredible hard. 5990 retail price with the AD is 53k ; 5712 grey price is 50k . In that scenario makes more sense to get 5990

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SECRET M · 30 September 2018, 04:59 PM

5712 -- mine just came in!

Pimpsy · 30 September 2018, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SECRET M

5712 -- mine just came in!

Grats!! You are going to love it, it's really a special piece. I'm still frequently amazed at how well it goes with just about any outfit or occasion.

Plastique999 · 1 October 2018, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jcoltrane

If you don’t have a nautilus the 5990 is a fine watch. If you realize how thin the 5711/5712 is, I agree the 5990 looks and feels very chunky. Same issue with aquanauts and the new 5968.

Funny, exactly why I didn’t buy the 5712...felt too light and too thin, like a toy to me.
A little chunk and heft may be a good thing

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pam66 · 1 October 2018, 01:13 AM

compared to the 5712A the 5990A feels almost like a design plunder. too thick, the gap between the pushers on the left side is really ugly and the dial is boring. but that is just me:::::))))
the 5712A is just perfect. i understand that some people prefer a heavier watch, but then i'd recommend to go look for a 5980A on the second hand market.

RussW · 1 October 2018, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pam66

compared to the 5712A the 5990A feels almost like a design plunder. too thick, the gap between the pushers on the left side is really ugly and the dial is boring. but that is just me:::::))))
the 5712A is just perfect. i understand that some people prefer a heavier watch, but then i'd recommend to go look for a 5980A on the second hand market.

Not sure how you can say the 5990 is too thick, but the 5980 isn’t?

Also apart from the 5980 and 5990 being the same thickness, for all intents and purposes, I found the 5980 sits a bit high on the wrist due to the caseback size, whereas the 5990 sits flatter.

pam66 · 1 October 2018, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RussW

Not sure how you can say the 5990 is too thick, but the 5980 isn’t?

Also apart from the 5980 and 5990 being the same thickness, for all intents and purposes, I found the 5980 sits a bit high on the wrist due to the caseback size, whereas the 5990 sits flatter.

according to the patek webpage there is a difference in thickness albeit little. but somehow the 5990 feels more chunky, at least to me.

tom2517 · 1 October 2018, 01:54 AM

5990

Mmehdija · 2 October 2019, 04:24 AM

As an update, 55k was a lot but boy was that a good investment. Selling for 90+ now, which I find astonishing.

V25V · 2 October 2019, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mmehdija

As an update, 55k was a lot but boy was that a good investment. Selling for 90+ now, which I find astonishing.

Im not so sure they are selling for that.....

If someone offered me 90K for mine right now, I may have to let it go.

Fat_ninja · 2 October 2019, 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mmehdija

As an update, 55k was a lot but boy was that a good investment. Selling for 90+ now, which I find astonishing.

Probably 70-75k. But still u are up... better than being down

We are talking about the 5990?

If it’s the 12 you are probably in the 60 range

V25V · 2 October 2019, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Probably 70-75k. But still u are up... better than being down

We are talking about the 5990?

If it’s the 12 you are probably in the 60 range

Xamy · 2 October 2019, 06:01 AM

5712 for me, but quite pricey I must say

Nayazec · 2 October 2019, 06:57 PM

5990 at $65K? i would buy it immediately. there is nothing below $100K new at Chrono.

Fat_ninja · 2 October 2019, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nayazec

5990 at $65K? i would buy it immediately. there is nothing below $100K new at Chrono.

These are asks price... the dealers are buying watches at about 20% discount to the lowest price u see on chrono. Or 15-20k above msrp....So u can negotiate.

Nayazec · 3 October 2019, 03:42 AM

i tried before negotiating on 5990 and 5711... honestly have not seen so much flexibility at all... even now, i have not seen any grey dealer, including on chrono willing to go below $100K by much.

Tay821 · 3 October 2019, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nayazec

i tried before negotiating on 5990 and 5711... honestly have not seen so much flexibility at all... even now, i have not seen any grey dealer, including on chrono willing to go below $100K by much.

They probably dont want to take a loss bc they bought too high

Fat_ninja · 3 October 2019, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nayazec

i tried before negotiating on 5990 and 5711... honestly have not seen so much flexibility at all... even now, i have not seen any grey dealer, including on chrono willing to go below $100K by much.

I bet if you show up on days when the market is down. It will help

chmhill · 3 October 2019, 07:33 AM

5712 for me. I like thin watch.

GB-man · 3 October 2019, 07:45 AM

I think dealers are offering around 70-75 on the 5990.

GreenLantern · 3 October 2019, 08:16 AM

Sounds about right.

Softened a little bit, just like the rest.

Mmehdija · 4 October 2019, 12:18 AM

I agree with Nayazec. It has softened a bit but 5712 (new) is still going for about 85 and 5999 for about 95.

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29 September 2018, 02:34 PM	#33
Double Barrel Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Paris Posts: 118	5990

30 September 2018, 02:04 PM	#36
jcoltrane "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Space Posts: 212	If you don’t have a nautilus the 5990 is a fine watch. If you realize how thin the 5711/5712 is, I agree the 5990 looks and feels very chunky. Same issue with aquanauts and the new 5968.

30 September 2018, 04:59 PM	#38
SECRET M "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: United States Watch: ♕ BLNR Posts: 33	5712 -- mine just came in!

1 October 2018, 01:13 AM	#41
pam66 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: cambridge Posts: 2,256	compared to the 5712A the 5990A feels almost like a design plunder. too thick, the gap between the pushers on the left side is really ugly and the dial is boring. but that is just me:::::)))) the 5712A is just perfect. i understand that some people prefer a heavier watch, but then i'd recommend to go look for a 5980A on the second hand market.

1 October 2018, 01:54 AM	#44
tom2517 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Asia & US Posts: 1,550	5990

2 October 2019, 04:24 AM	#45
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	As an update, 55k was a lot but boy was that a good investment. Selling for 90+ now, which I find astonishing.

2 October 2019, 06:01 AM	#49
Xamy Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: United States Posts: 106	5712 for me, but quite pricey I must say

2 October 2019, 06:57 PM	#50
Nayazec "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London Posts: 17	5990 at $65K? i would buy it immediately. there is nothing below $100K new at Chrono.

3 October 2019, 03:42 AM	#52
Nayazec "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: London Posts: 17	i tried before negotiating on 5990 and 5711... honestly have not seen so much flexibility at all... even now, i have not seen any grey dealer, including on chrono willing to go below $100K by much.

3 October 2019, 07:33 AM	#55
chmhill "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Watch: PP Posts: 239	5712 for me. I like thin watch.

3 October 2019, 08:16 AM	#57
GreenLantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Montana Posts: 3,223	Sounds about right. Softened a little bit, just like the rest.

4 October 2019, 12:18 AM	#58
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	I agree with Nayazec. It has softened a bit but 5712 (new) is still going for about 85 and 5999 for about 95.

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