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Mmehdija · 22 September 2018, 02:03 AM

I am deciding between a Patek 5712-1A (steel band, blue dial) (for around 55,000) v. 5990 (still band, gray dial) (for around 65,000). I can afford both but am having a really hard deciding which. Any advice?

JorgeCCW · 22 September 2018, 02:06 AM

On that scenario 5712, but I will hunt for better prices
Good luck

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Bearxj86 · 22 September 2018, 02:13 AM

Whoever is quoting you $55k is ripping you off. They go for $44-$46 pre-owned and around $48-$49k BNIB

Sam Philip · 22 September 2018, 02:29 AM

I would get the 5990 at retail. It is still available with a few month wait

SW1 · 22 September 2018, 02:30 AM

5712...5990 too chunky...who needs a chrono anyway

Mmehdija · 22 September 2018, 02:43 AM

Thank you all. I think I can get these prices 2000 down.

Where can I can 5990 with a few month wait? The two authorized distributors in NY told me today that it would be 2-4 years +, and the Patek store in paris doesn’t even take names for waitlist anymore.

SL BRABUS · 22 September 2018, 03:18 AM

5712 my choice....

But whoever sold the 5712 for over $50K is a lucky man....

Hramez · 22 September 2018, 04:42 AM

5712a is my choice , but will never pay 55000 , go on the list , u will get it in 2 to 3 years time , in the meantime enjoy what u have , but at the end of the day it is your money , do what will make u happy

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V25V · 22 September 2018, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hramez

5712a is my choice , but will never pay 55000 , go on the list , u will get it in 2 to 3 years time , in the meantime enjoy what u have , but at the end of the day it is your money , do what will make u happy

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In 2-3 years, MSRP may very well be approaching 50K.....

AK797 · 22 September 2018, 05:53 AM

5712.

Suttree · 22 September 2018, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Where can I can 5990 with a few month wait? The two authorized distributors in NY told me today that it would be 2-4 years +, and the Patek store in paris doesn’t even take names for waitlist anymore.

I’m wondering the same thing...if anyone has a line on where it might be possible to get one from an AD with a sub 2yr wait time I’d certainly appreciate the heads up.

R!$ · 22 September 2018, 07:15 AM

I prefer the 5990

ap1 · 22 September 2018, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

5712.

Obviously, me 2

incontrol · 23 September 2018, 04:21 AM

5712 on the bracelet is an awesome watch.

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Mmehdija · 23 September 2018, 09:20 AM

Thank you, ALL! Much appreciate all the input. Am leaving toward 5712.

RXAPPP · 23 September 2018, 10:27 AM

5990 every day of the week! The offset text on the 5712 looks silly IMHO but regardless a Patek complication should win hands down...

watchucallit · 23 September 2018, 12:36 PM

I own both and have a slight favoritism for the 5990. The 5712 has the PR-- which I like. Moon phase is a pain to set if not a daily wearer and not useful. I do use the chrono once in a while.. GMT is great for traveling across the various ponds.. I admit that when i travel i generally go with the 5164. Just so comfortable and flies under the radar

Daytonaman799 · 23 September 2018, 12:52 PM

5712....but thats too much. would work really hard to get better prices

Plastique999 · 23 September 2018, 02:40 PM

Sent from my Zeitwerk

soundserious · 23 September 2018, 02:49 PM

Battle of the pointer dates. Umm...the 12.

JJ WA · 24 September 2018, 06:48 AM

It doesn’t get much better than the 5712. Power reserve, moon phase, thin case, the stunning 240 movement and one of the most interesting dials ever made (which looks totally balanced despite its asymmetric layout).

tchaic · 24 September 2018, 08:05 AM

5712 is 10x the 5990 is to me.

MCMartiny · 24 September 2018, 05:33 PM

5712 - Gorgeous blue dial, original slim Nautilus profile and more interesting 240 micro rotor movement.

Busyboy · 24 September 2018, 05:57 PM

5712 for beauty and looks
5990 for water proof and functionality

Mmehdija · 28 September 2018, 12:59 PM

Thanks all. After much deliberation, I ended up purchasing the 5712. Brand new unworn, 2018, papers, box: $53,000, which was the best price I could find in NYC after talking to at least 15 resellers and researching everywhere, including on Chrono24.

The prices have certainly blown up in the last 6 months.

GB-man · 28 September 2018, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mmehdija

Thanks all. After much deliberation, I ended up purchasing the 5712. Brand new unworn, 2018, papers, box: $53,000, which was the best price I could find in NYC after talking to at least 15 resellers and researching everywhere, including on Chrono24.

The prices have certainly blown up in the last 6 months.

Enjoy it in good health. Price is water under the bridge.

Ichiran · 28 September 2018, 03:18 PM

Congrats! That's a brilliant watch!

tyler1980 · 28 September 2018, 06:22 PM

i prefer the 5990, but a 5990 at retail vs a 5712 at secondary is it really a choice?

Codik · 28 September 2018, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

i prefer the 5990, but a 5990 at retail vs a 5712 at secondary is it really a choice?

Yep. As someone who is a fan of the 5990 and finds the 5712 one of their least favourite, it’s hard to comprehend.

Fat_ninja · 28 September 2018, 08:04 PM

55k wow

22 September 2018, 02:03 AM	#1
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	Help!! Deciding between Patek 5712 v. 5990 I am deciding between a Patek 5712-1A (steel band, blue dial) (for around 55,000) v. 5990 (still band, gray dial) (for around 65,000). I can afford both but am having a really hard deciding which. Any advice?

22 September 2018, 02:06 AM	#2
JorgeCCW "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Jorge Location: Ohio, USA Watch: Rolex,Patek and AP Posts: 4,675	On that scenario 5712, but I will hunt for better prices Good luck Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nothing happens until something moves " Albert Einstein

22 September 2018, 03:18 AM	#7
SL BRABUS "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: U.S.A Watch: Only Rolex & Patek Posts: 3,343	5712 my choice.... But whoever sold the 5712 for over $50K is a lucky man.... __________________ Rolex Forum: Mainly Rolex & Benz pictures...!!! Click the above link to join the club...^^^... "SL BRABUS" aka BenzWorld Undercover Moderator

23 September 2018, 04:21 AM	#14
incontrol "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Kevin Location: Somewhere in PA Watch: All of them... Posts: 10,355	5712 on the bracelet is an awesome watch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Patek Philippe Rolex

23 September 2018, 02:49 PM	#20
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Battle of the pointer dates. Umm...the 12. __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

22 September 2018, 02:13 AM	#3
Bearxj86 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Los Angeles Watch: 3970 Posts: 3,800	Whoever is quoting you $55k is ripping you off. They go for $44-$46 pre-owned and around $48-$49k BNIB

22 September 2018, 02:29 AM	#4
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	I would get the 5990 at retail. It is still available with a few month wait

22 September 2018, 02:30 AM	#5
SW1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: GB Posts: 296	5712...5990 too chunky...who needs a chrono anyway

22 September 2018, 02:43 AM	#6
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	Thank you all. I think I can get these prices 2000 down. Where can I can 5990 with a few month wait? The two authorized distributors in NY told me today that it would be 2-4 years +, and the Patek store in paris doesn’t even take names for waitlist anymore.

22 September 2018, 04:42 AM	#8
Hramez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: planet earth Watch: Patek Philippe Posts: 210	5712a is my choice , but will never pay 55000 , go on the list , u will get it in 2 to 3 years time , in the meantime enjoy what u have , but at the end of the day it is your money , do what will make u happy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 September 2018, 05:53 AM	#10
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,220	5712.

22 September 2018, 07:15 AM	#12
R!$ Banned Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,405	I prefer the 5990

23 September 2018, 09:20 AM	#15
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	Thank you, ALL! Much appreciate all the input. Am leaving toward 5712.

23 September 2018, 10:27 AM	#16
RXAPPP "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Blue Planet Watch: 5 Posts: 1,201	5990 every day of the week! The offset text on the 5712 looks silly IMHO but regardless a Patek complication should win hands down...

23 September 2018, 12:36 PM	#17
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,212	I own both and have a slight favoritism for the 5990. The 5712 has the PR-- which I like. Moon phase is a pain to set if not a daily wearer and not useful. I do use the chrono once in a while.. GMT is great for traveling across the various ponds.. I admit that when i travel i generally go with the 5164. Just so comfortable and flies under the radar

23 September 2018, 12:52 PM	#18
Daytonaman799 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NYC/South Fl Watch: Rolex, Patek Posts: 3,499	5712....but thats too much. would work really hard to get better prices

23 September 2018, 02:40 PM	#19
Plastique999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: CA Watch: VC Toledo 1952 Posts: 1,063	Sent from my Zeitwerk

24 September 2018, 06:48 AM	#21
JJ WA "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Seattle Posts: 787	It doesn’t get much better than the 5712. Power reserve, moon phase, thin case, the stunning 240 movement and one of the most interesting dials ever made (which looks totally balanced despite its asymmetric layout).

24 September 2018, 08:05 AM	#22
tchaic "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: Tag Heuer 2000 Posts: 490	5712 is 10x the 5990 is to me.

24 September 2018, 05:33 PM	#23
MCMartiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Somewhere in time Watch: Lange & Patek Posts: 612	5712 - Gorgeous blue dial, original slim Nautilus profile and more interesting 240 micro rotor movement.

24 September 2018, 05:57 PM	#24
Busyboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Uk Posts: 1,069	5712 for beauty and looks 5990 for water proof and functionality

28 September 2018, 12:59 PM	#25
Mmehdija "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: New York Posts: 7	Thanks all. After much deliberation, I ended up purchasing the 5712. Brand new unworn, 2018, papers, box: $53,000, which was the best price I could find in NYC after talking to at least 15 resellers and researching everywhere, including on Chrono24. The prices have certainly blown up in the last 6 months.

28 September 2018, 03:18 PM	#27
Ichiran 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Michael Location: Dotonbori Watch: Mostly blue dials Posts: 7,598	Congrats! That's a brilliant watch!

28 September 2018, 06:22 PM	#28
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	i prefer the 5990, but a 5990 at retail vs a 5712 at secondary is it really a choice? __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

28 September 2018, 08:04 PM	#30
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	55k wow

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