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Das10 · 9 June 2018, 10:21 PM

Hello Everyone,

I am looking to see if anyone has experienced what I am seeing and if I should just consider this normal... I purchased a "new" Submariner 116610LN from a very reputable and trusted buyer that came with warranty card from an authorized AD, box, papers, tags and stickers. I noticed the last line "Officially Certified" just looks off, the font type is consistent but take a look at the unevenness and how some letters look higher and lower.. Again, this could be totally fine given there are different types of dials out there, but want to see if anyone can comment.

Please take a look at the images i uploaded.

Thank you!

zuluwarrior1 · 9 June 2018, 10:34 PM

Hmmmm, it does look a little uneven. I have a sub c no date bought from an AD and the letters don't look quite the same as your pics. I'll try and take some pics as a comparison.

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Jayhawk1 · 9 June 2018, 10:41 PM

Superlative Chronometer is also a little off. It seems that letters with straight lines have those "sticks" chopped off at the bottom...

Sandpit · 9 June 2018, 10:44 PM

I’d say it’s consistent with the lettering in “Superlative Chronometer” also. Look at the O in Chronometer. They both finish below bottom of the other letters. Could well be new Rolex fonts and match what others have.

zuluwarrior1 · 9 June 2018, 10:47 PM

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zuluwarrior1 · 9 June 2018, 10:50 PM

Maybe not comparing apples with apples as mine is no date but there appears to be some significant differences. Hopefully someone will come on with the same model for comparison.

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Das10 · 9 June 2018, 10:52 PM

Yes, I agree. Significant differences with font, thank you sharing this. I am curious to see if others have font similar to what I have.

Melvin_arnold · 9 June 2018, 10:54 PM

That’s doesn’t look right to me

Runnin' Rebel · 9 June 2018, 10:56 PM

Wow, that looks way off

Bigblu10 · 9 June 2018, 11:02 PM

Very unusual for the lettering to no be perfectly aligned, regardless of font.
Did the watch come from a seller here on the forum?

MJZRolex · 9 June 2018, 11:07 PM

I'd be concerned as well. You need to take the Rolex in for authentication.

LazySumday · 9 June 2018, 11:07 PM

How long ago did you purchase the watch? I would see if it could be returned. It would nag at me personally and if you ever sold it, you would have the same reservations from your buyer. Does the laser etched crown appear at the 6pm mark on the crystal?

This is my GMT II as reference.

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2001jesper · 9 June 2018, 11:09 PM

Looks off.. Also the crown guards are “almost” missing

Eric-London · 9 June 2018, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2001jesper

Looks off.. Also the crown guards are “almost” missing

Agree. Something isn't right :(

zuluwarrior1 · 9 June 2018, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BLNR Nairobi

Not only have you shown the proper writing (at least for the particular reference) to someone you don’t know (and is very new), but you also managed to reveal your serial number.

Removed, would be grateful if you could do the same!

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brandrea · 9 June 2018, 11:16 PM

I’ve never seen that before

Das10 · 9 June 2018, 11:17 PM

I am very concerned now :(

GreatScott · 9 June 2018, 11:21 PM

is your crown out or can you get a better angle of the crown and guards

LazySumday · 9 June 2018, 11:21 PM

Out of curiosity, what is the big deal within Zuluwarrior1’s photo? Not like someone can claim that is his or her watch if the papers are with the photo taker.

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Al1969 · 9 June 2018, 11:21 PM

Who did you source the watch from OP?

jburson250 · 9 June 2018, 11:21 PM

My Sub - a 114060 - looks exactly like the photo in post #5.

On your dial, in "chronometer" - specifically "METER" - the two E's look taller than M, T and R.

I need to stop looking, before I have a Shroud of Turin experience.

THC · 9 June 2018, 11:30 PM

Agree it looks off, but I would ask what you mean by reputable seller?
Was it a TRF seller?
If so, I would advise not disclosing his name until he is aware of your dial issue and give him a chance to make it right.

I have seen some threads where panicked buyers, did not let the seller know and roasted them here without cause

Das10 · 9 June 2018, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatScott

is your crown out or can you get a better angle of the crown and guards

More pictures

kauffee · 9 June 2018, 11:41 PM

I think this is a new variant. The font is bolder and it seems the letter height is a bit more uneven. I wouldn’t worry about it. I follow a guy on Instagram who just got a new Sub and his dial is exactly the same as yours.

Das10 · 9 June 2018, 11:41 PM

Yes agree, I will not be posting that information.. I think this can be resolved.

Das10 · 9 June 2018, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kauffee

I think this is a new variant. The font is bolder and it seems the letter height is a bit more uneven. I wouldn’t worry about it. I follow a guy on Instagram who just got a new Sub and his dial is exactly the same as yours.

Any chance you can get a pic to share?

kauffee · 9 June 2018, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Das10

Any chance you can get a pic to share?

Here you go:
https://instagram.com/p/BjvbR28Fu9c/

G'ed · 9 June 2018, 11:47 PM

Seem like the stamping machine is not properly inked

Das10 · 9 June 2018, 11:50 PM

Pic of crown and guards

Hodog16 · 9 June 2018, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LazySumday

Out of curiosity, what is the big deal within Zuluwarrior1’s photo? Not like someone can claim that is his or her watch if the papers are with the photo taker.

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People who make replicas can know a specific SN is tied to that model and can create one which they can try to pass off as real.

No problem pointing out but then quoting the photo and not editing perpetuates the issue.

9 June 2018, 10:50 PM	#6
zuluwarrior1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: UK Posts: 21	New Advice On My New Sub Maybe not comparing apples with apples as mine is no date but there appears to be some significant differences. Hopefully someone will come on with the same model for comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 June 2018, 10:56 PM	#9
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Wow, that looks way off __________________ ♛

9 June 2018, 11:07 PM	#12
LazySumday "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 285	New Advice On My New Sub How long ago did you purchase the watch? I would see if it could be returned. It would nag at me personally and if you ever sold it, you would have the same reservations from your buyer. Does the laser etched crown appear at the 6pm mark on the crystal? This is my GMT II as reference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 June 2018, 11:21 PM	#19
LazySumday "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 285	New Advice On My New Sub Out of curiosity, what is the big deal within Zuluwarrior1’s photo? Not like someone can claim that is his or her watch if the papers are with the photo taker. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 June 2018, 11:21 PM	#20
Al1969 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: New Jersey Posts: 6,601	Who did you source the watch from OP? __________________ WG SUB-116719 GMT MASTER II 126719

9 June 2018, 10:34 PM	#2
zuluwarrior1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: UK Posts: 21	Hmmmm, it does look a little uneven. I have a sub c no date bought from an AD and the letters don't look quite the same as your pics. I'll try and take some pics as a comparison. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 June 2018, 10:41 PM	#3
Jayhawk1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Al Location: SE MI Watch: SubC Posts: 41	Superlative Chronometer is also a little off. It seems that letters with straight lines have those "sticks" chopped off at the bottom...

9 June 2018, 10:44 PM	#4
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,809	I’d say it’s consistent with the lettering in “Superlative Chronometer” also. Look at the O in Chronometer. They both finish below bottom of the other letters. Could well be new Rolex fonts and match what others have.

9 June 2018, 10:47 PM	#5
zuluwarrior1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: UK Posts: 21	New Advice On My New Sub Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

9 June 2018, 10:52 PM	#7
Das10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NH Posts: 46	Yes, I agree. Significant differences with font, thank you sharing this. I am curious to see if others have font similar to what I have.

9 June 2018, 10:54 PM	#8
Melvin_arnold "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Real Name: Melvin Location: Sydney Watch: TV Posts: 392	That’s doesn’t look right to me

9 June 2018, 11:02 PM	#10
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	Very unusual for the lettering to no be perfectly aligned, regardless of font. Did the watch come from a seller here on the forum?

9 June 2018, 11:07 PM	#11
MJZRolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Ohio Watch: Submariner 14060M Posts: 679	I'd be concerned as well. You need to take the Rolex in for authentication.

9 June 2018, 11:09 PM	#13
2001jesper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Jesper Location: Earth Watch: 116234 Posts: 1,644	Looks off.. Also the crown guards are “almost” missing

9 June 2018, 11:16 PM	#16
brandrea 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 73,582	I’ve never seen that before

9 June 2018, 11:17 PM	#17
Das10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NH Posts: 46	I am very concerned now :(

9 June 2018, 11:21 PM	#18
GreatScott "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: In a house Posts: 835	is your crown out or can you get a better angle of the crown and guards

9 June 2018, 11:21 PM	#21
jburson250 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Real Name: Jim Location: SE NH Watch: DSSD Posts: 388	My Sub - a 114060 - looks exactly like the photo in post #5. On your dial, in "chronometer" - specifically "METER" - the two E's look taller than M, T and R. I need to stop looking, before I have a Shroud of Turin experience. __________________ Jim Explorer 214270. Sea-Dweller 126600. Sea-Dweller Deepsea 126660 Black. Submariner 5512. PAM 514 Radiomir 1940. Railmaster XXL 2806.52.37. Speedmaster Moonphase 304.33.44.52.01.001. RIP JJ

9 June 2018, 11:30 PM	#22
THC 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Tom Location: Mandeville La Watch: 16610M Posts: 10,479	Agree it looks off, but I would ask what you mean by reputable seller? Was it a TRF seller? If so, I would advise not disclosing his name until he is aware of your dial issue and give him a chance to make it right. I have seen some threads where panicked buyers, did not let the seller know and roasted them here without cause

9 June 2018, 11:41 PM	#24
kauffee 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,379	I think this is a new variant. The font is bolder and it seems the letter height is a bit more uneven. I wouldn’t worry about it. I follow a guy on Instagram who just got a new Sub and his dial is exactly the same as yours.

9 June 2018, 11:47 PM	#28
G'ed "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: RolexHQ boardroom Posts: 1,232	Seem like the stamping machine is not properly inked

9 June 2018, 11:50 PM	#29
Das10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: NH Posts: 46	Pic of crown and guards

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