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15 September 2018, 04:55 AM | #1 |
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Your Thoughts: circa 1969 Tudor Day Date
I came across a Tudor Day Date, estimated original purchase date of 1969. First off, I didn't take pictures, so bad on me. I wasn't that interested but the more I think about it the more I might be interested. 1969 is my birth year and like the tudor day date a lot. Points of consideration:
1. shop is selling it for the original owner, asking $2750 2. Has a the rolex coronet on the crown 3. Case back is stamped with Rolex and some other words but can't remember, maybe oyster case. Something that seems legit. 4. Has original oyster bracelet, in usable but not great shape 5. Bezel is similar to a Sub, has numbers at 10, 20, 30, etc. This threw me, I've never seen this bezel on a Tudor Day Date but have found pictures of them so I don't think it's a franken watch. Bezel very faded. 6. Case and Crystal were in good shape given the age. 7. Wound very rough but the shop is going to look at it, shop owner agreed it's currently not winding like it should. But the second hand moved and it went around without any obvious problems. 8. Overall I'd give it a 6 out of 10 condition. This is based on my zero experience rating watch conditions. It's in good enough condition I'd wear it but not in a collectible condition, I wouldn't buy this thinking I'd sell it for a profit in the future so it needs to be babied or hidden in a safe. Edit: I think the movement number is 1806, not a Rolex movement. Those are the highlights. Asking price seems high, I said I'd be interested but price seemed high, no lack of willingness to negotiate was mentioned. Any thoughts on the piece overall and the price? I have almost no experience with vintage watches, even less with vintage Tudors. Thanks for your input. And if I can get back to take photos I'll upload them, but to see it you'd believe it's from 1969, cared for but certainly worn a lot. Thanks! |
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I think they call it a jumbo day date Turn-O-Graph.
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^^ Yep. Reference number 7020.
These are pretty thinly traded, so there's not a ton of price transparency like there would be for say, a contemporary submariner. But a quick look at watchrecon.com and ebay seems like the asking price is "in the ballpark". It sounds like the watch needs a service sooner than later and I would use that to your advantage to negotiate an as-is deal. I wouldn't rely on the selling party to do a thorough quality service on the piece anyway. Most shops will selectively oil the movement and send it out the door. Rather than them messing with, get a lower price and take or send it where you want for service. |
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It has a schild movement. Nice watch and very heavy. More than a sub in my experience w one. It's expensive if the dial is bad and rough. My watchmaker had trouble with repairing mine and prefers the ETA. The price is high if no band. Any bracelet ?
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Have you or your watchmaker tried crossing the movement with a date only or no date A. Schlid? They were absorbed and became what is now ETA but not really compatible... in your case, a donor movement/watch might be in order. Maybe one with a destroyed hair spring that doesn’t run- that’s where I’d look. PITA but worth it when you can wear it again... Finding the elusive stuff is half the fun of the hobby for me. |
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Last year, a friend was in watchmaking school and they received boxes of old broken watches from the estate of a deceased watchmaker. Each student got one box to keep and dissect. My buddy gets a tudor 7017 day date with a Rolex 7206 band. Apparently, the old guy tried to fix it but found it unrepairable. My buddy also couldn’t get the date wheels to click over. I had a 7020 and sold her on the bay with broken date wheels too.
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Yes it does.
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You know him. Tommy Taylor in Austin, he rescues ancient Rolex movements from the 20s-30s-40s, He's done some amazing builds.
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Bob Ridley had the watch multiple times, poor guy spent a small fortune with Fed Ex, and generously asked me to send it back again but after having it literally gone for a couple years I've given up. A real shame because I love(d) the watch and basically paid for it twice already. dP
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If mine craps out I'll get it to him. Whoever figures that one out will make a ton. :) Anyone know a parts manufacturer?
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Why not buy a movement for the thing? Swap the rotor. You can then enjoy it!
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What about the ETA 2834 that they use in the Tudor 76200, etc?
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I suppose over the years I have seen complete schilds on the bay. I would try my luck and replace the one you have. If I ever see one in decent shape around mtl, I will pm you
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I’ve had one of these on my radar. Thanks for all the great knowledge here.
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Yes, comes with the original oyster bracelet. It's wearable and seems to latch without problems. Not much stretch, probably in condition one would expect from a nearly 50 year old watch.
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That looks like the watch. But the bezel on the one I'm looking at is far more faded. And it also looks like the bezel on the watch I found is much thinner, but maybe not.
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I misread a comment earlier, it's a Schild movement... never heard of them. My vintage experience is shining through... |
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I love to get this classic back on my wrist. dP
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The nefarious A. Schild 1895
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My 7020 repair
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Took several minutes to set the Date/Day non quickset. Looks great. I'm guessing these can be repaired, but maybe each repair issue is unique? |
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I love my 7020; the rotating bezel really makes it.
Damn shame on yours Dan. |
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