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GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 03:52 AM

I sold my beloved white gold daytona in July as I got the call
For the SS Pepsi from my AD at Goldsmiths.

I decided I had to buy the Pepsi so I sold the WG Daytona.

I wore the GMT Pepsi everyday and loved it, then mid September I got the opportunity to buy a 2014 SS Daytona 116520, so I had to buy it.

I found I was only wearing my SS daytona and never the GMT.

I realised I needed to buy another White Gold Daytona as it is definitely the watch for me.....and always has been.

In the meantime I bought my wife a 31mm DateJust from the same AD.

I listed my GMT Pepsi on a Facebook group ‘Real Rolex Owners’ and someone has informed Goldsmiths so they banned me from the entire Aurum group for SS Sports models.

Anyway, I sold the Pepsi sold the SS Daytona and I’ve orderex a blue dial white gold Daytona, and with the profit on the GMT, it covers my wife’s 31mm Datejust.

The ban IMO is grossly unfair as if I was going to flip it, I’d have done it in July 2018, plus the same AD offered me a BLNR 6 weeks ago and I turned it down despite a £3000 instant profit to be made, hardly the work of a flipper??

Anyway, next week I’ll have a new white gold daytona and my wife will effectively have had a ‘free’ 31mm Datejust.

I’m over the moon with the end result aside from the Aurum ban!!

Sarosh · 14 November 2018, 03:54 AM

Main thing is you got the watch you really wanted Gary. Balls to all these AD games. When, not IF, the tables change, they will be singing a different tune. Then they will be the ones at our mercy. Lol.

Enjoy the new Daytona!

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarosh

Main thing is you got the watch you really wanted Gary. Balls to all these AD games. When, not IF, the tables change, they will be singing a different tune. Then they will be the ones at our mercy. Lol.

Enjoy the new Daytona!

Thanks mate

WatchGuy1966 · 14 November 2018, 04:06 AM

Send a letter to management explaining your side of it. They might reverse the ban. Or convert it to a suspension.

kauffee · 14 November 2018, 04:09 AM

How did they inform you that you were banned?

Strummer25 · 14 November 2018, 04:10 AM

Heavy handed Stalinist approach. Totally unnecessary. Glad you ended up with what you want

Sarosh · 14 November 2018, 04:20 AM

Gary, are there any other AD’s near you other than Aurum group ones???

Kyle3130 · 14 November 2018, 04:36 AM

Glad you got what you really wanted cheaper than you thought!

Their loss for cutting off an existing customer.

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kauffee

How did they inform you that you were banned?

By email

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarosh

Gary, are there any other AD’s near you other than Aurum group ones???

Yes, Fraser Hart In York...about an hour away but I have no relationship with them at all.

Rolex Essex · 14 November 2018, 05:03 AM

I’m sure you can still buy a watch from them but just can’t get on the waiting list.

droptopman · 14 November 2018, 05:09 AM

Glad you are getting the watch you really want. What is the world coming to, when a store bans people from making 10K+ purchases. Strange times indeed.

breitlings · 14 November 2018, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Glad you are getting the watch you really want. What is the world coming to, when a store bans people from making 10K+ purchases. Strange times indeed.

Land Rover Houston had really interesting language they wanted me to sign regarding promise to not export the vehicles and an ability to demand full payment of the car with 24 hours notice (over-riding financial clauses). I told them there was no way I could sign that and they would not budge.

droptopman · 14 November 2018, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by breitlings

Land Rover Houston had really interesting language they wanted me to sign regarding promise to not export the vehicles and an ability to demand full payment of the car with 24 hours notice (over-riding financial clauses). I told them there was no way I could sign that and they would not budge.

Crazy. I guess the Luxury product retailers are in the driver's seat until the economy tanks again. Talk about abuse of power/position....makes me want to get off the grid quicker than I had planned.

kauffee · 14 November 2018, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by GolfPunk

By email

Crazy. (I'd love to see the text of the email.)

Curious how many watches you've purchased from this AD?

Personally, I'd be pretty irate and discuss it with them. You've probably spent a lot of money there. I'd say something along the lines of, "I'm a watch collector. I buy watches, wear them for a while, and sell them. I'm never satisfied. I didn't buy this or any watch with the intention of flipping it for profit. I plan to continue buying watches in the future and if you no longer want my business then I will take it elsewhere."

They may not care now, in the current market. But a good manager should know this will not last forever.

Rolex addict · 14 November 2018, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by droptopman

Crazy. I guess the Luxury product retailers are in the driver's seat until the economy tanks again. Talk about abuse of power/position....makes me want to get off the grid quicker than I had planned.

Oh, I believe things will get very interesting when the economy cools and customers are in the driver's seat again.

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kauffee

Crazy. (I'd love to see the text of the email.)

Curious how many watches you've purchased from this AD?

Personally, I'd be pretty irate and discuss it with them. You've probably spent a lot of money there. I'd say something along the lines of, "I'm a watch collector. I buy watches, wear them for a while, and sell them. I'm never satisfied. I didn't buy this or any watch with the intention of flipping it for profit. I plan to continue buying watches in the future and if you no longer want my business then I will take it elsewhere."

They may not care now, in the current market. But a good manager should know this will not last forever.

I have purchased 5 Rolex from them in 3 years.

Sarosh · 14 November 2018, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GolfPunk

Yes, Fraser Hart In York...about an hour away but I have no relationship with them at all.

Are Fraser Hart also part of the Aurum group? Not even sure what that damn group owns anymore. lol.

GB-man · 14 November 2018, 05:44 AM

Oh well haha I bet they forget all about it in a few years or whenever the market turns.

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarosh

Are Fraser Hart also part of the Aurum group? Not even sure what that damn group owns anymore. lol.

No. The Aurum group
Is Goldsmiths, Watches of Switzerland & Mappin & Webb.

sco · 14 November 2018, 05:48 AM

While I don't agree with the banning, you did sell a hot watch you got from them at a profit. Which is exactly what they don't want to happen...

Sarosh · 14 November 2018, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

No. The Aurum group
Is Goldsmiths, Watches of Switzerland & Mappin & Webb.

Ahhh okay. My bad.

Hopefully as you stated the Daytona is the one you want and you’ve come back to it again, so hopefully you won’t need to make that hour trip!

jay_kay · 14 November 2018, 05:52 AM

Poor show on their part Gary. I just missed out on a WG Daytona on Sunday, under 2 years old and £17500! Lovely watch, wish it had the Arabic numerals on though!

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sco

While I don't agree with the banning, you did sell a hot watch you got from them at a profit. Which is exactly what they don't want to happen...

It not when I got the watch in July, I wore it daily for 4 months then sold it below the market value as I lost interest in it and simply wanted a white gold daytona again.

arcadelt · 14 November 2018, 05:55 AM

Is this kind of behaviour even legal under consumer law?

sco · 14 November 2018, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GolfPunk

It not when I got the watch in July, I wore it daily for 4 months then sold it below the market value as I lost interest in it and simply wanted a white gold daytona again.

Obviously it doesn't matter to them that you kept the watch for 4 months, or why you sold it. Like I said, you sold a very popular hard to get watch at a profit, and that is what they are trying to avoid.

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sco

Obviously it doesn't matter to them that you kept the watch for 4 months, or why you sold it. Like I said, you sold a very popular hard to get watch at a profit, and that is what they are trying to avoid.

They’re hypocrites .... going after Genuine individuals like me. They will NOT rock the boat with the Grey Dealers or they wouldn’t off their unpopular stock or get their brown envelopes of cash.. in reality, the grey dealers dictate the premium on the sought after SS models, not individuals like me.

arcadelt · 14 November 2018, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sco

Obviously it doesn't matter to them that you kept the watch for 4 months, or why you sold it. Like I said, you sold a very popular hard to get watch at a profit, and that is what they are trying to avoid.

It was his watch, duly exchanged and paid for. Under what circumstance does a vendor legally have control over the goods they transferred ownership of. Imagine if the person you bought a house from had some say in how you could resell it to the next home buyer. This is ridiculous.

GolfPunk · 14 November 2018, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by arcadelt

It was his watch, duly exchanged and paid for. Under what circumstance does a vendor legally have control over the goods they transferred ownership of. Imagine if the person you bought a house from had some say in how you could resell it to the next home buyer. This is ridiculous.

Exactly my friend

daveathall · 14 November 2018, 06:10 AM

I would say eff em.

You did the right thing in my opinion. I had good service from Fattorini (AD) in Harrogate as an independent to try.

14 November 2018, 03:52 AM	#1
GolfPunk "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Gary Location: UK Watch: WG Daytona Posts: 4,395	So....I’m banned from the Aurum Group! I sold my beloved white gold daytona in July as I got the call For the SS Pepsi from my AD at Goldsmiths. I decided I had to buy the Pepsi so I sold the WG Daytona. I wore the GMT Pepsi everyday and loved it, then mid September I got the opportunity to buy a 2014 SS Daytona 116520, so I had to buy it. I found I was only wearing my SS daytona and never the GMT. I realised I needed to buy another White Gold Daytona as it is definitely the watch for me.....and always has been. In the meantime I bought my wife a 31mm DateJust from the same AD. I listed my GMT Pepsi on a Facebook group ‘Real Rolex Owners’ and someone has informed Goldsmiths so they banned me from the entire Aurum group for SS Sports models. Anyway, I sold the Pepsi sold the SS Daytona and I’ve orderex a blue dial white gold Daytona, and with the profit on the GMT, it covers my wife’s 31mm Datejust. The ban IMO is grossly unfair as if I was going to flip it, I’d have done it in July 2018, plus the same AD offered me a BLNR 6 weeks ago and I turned it down despite a £3000 instant profit to be made, hardly the work of a flipper?? Anyway, next week I’ll have a new white gold daytona and my wife will effectively have had a ‘free’ 31mm Datejust. I’m over the moon with the end result aside from the Aurum ban!! __________________ ♕ Rolex DateJust 1601 Buckley Birth Year 1972 ♕ Breitling Chronomat 47 mm GMT Limited

14 November 2018, 03:54 AM	#2
Sarosh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: London Watch: BLNR Posts: 2,218	Main thing is you got the watch you really wanted Gary. Balls to all these AD games. When, not IF, the tables change, they will be singing a different tune. Then they will be the ones at our mercy. Lol. Enjoy the new Daytona! __________________ ----- “It’s a watch, it tells time. Not much else”

14 November 2018, 04:20 AM	#7
Sarosh "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: London Watch: BLNR Posts: 2,218	Gary, are there any other AD’s near you other than Aurum group ones??? __________________ ----- “It’s a watch, it tells time. Not much else”

14 November 2018, 04:36 AM	#8
Kyle3130 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kyle Location: Oklahoma Watch: FXD Posts: 1,943	Glad you got what you really wanted cheaper than you thought! Their loss for cutting off an existing customer. __________________

14 November 2018, 05:09 AM	#12
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Glad you are getting the watch you really want. What is the world coming to, when a store bans people from making 10K+ purchases. Strange times indeed. __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

14 November 2018, 04:06 AM	#4
WatchGuy1966 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Location Location Posts: 1,750	Send a letter to management explaining your side of it. They might reverse the ban. Or convert it to a suspension.

14 November 2018, 04:09 AM	#5
kauffee 2024 ROLEX DATE-JUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,379	How did they inform you that you were banned?

14 November 2018, 04:10 AM	#6
Strummer25 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Real Name: Paul Location: London Calling Watch: SD4K Dj41 SubC YM Posts: 791	Heavy handed Stalinist approach. Totally unnecessary. Glad you ended up with what you want

14 November 2018, 05:03 AM	#11
Rolex Essex "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Colchester, UK Watch: Daytona, DJ & Sub Posts: 1,612	I’m sure you can still buy a watch from them but just can’t get on the waiting list.

14 November 2018, 05:44 AM	#19
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,864	Oh well haha I bet they forget all about it in a few years or whenever the market turns. __________________

14 November 2018, 05:48 AM	#21
sco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Chicago Watch: Subc AT 8500 CSO Posts: 3,646	While I don't agree with the banning, you did sell a hot watch you got from them at a profit. Which is exactly what they don't want to happen...

14 November 2018, 05:52 AM	#23
jay_kay "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Barrowford Watch: Tudor Black Bay 54 Posts: 1,699	Poor show on their part Gary. I just missed out on a WG Daytona on Sunday, under 2 years old and £17500! Lovely watch, wish it had the Arabic numerals on though! __________________ Rolex Explorer 214270, Omega Speedmaster '1957 Relaunch' 3594.50.00, Panerai Luminor 1950 PAM00127-E, Panerai Radiomir 1936 PAM00249-I, Panerai Mare Nostrum PAM00716-T, Panerai PAM00785-Q Set, Panerai Luminor Black Seal PAM00594-Q, Panerai Luminor Daylight PAM00604-Q, Tudor Black Bay 54 79000N, Heuer Carrera Re-Edition CS3113, Hamilton Military W10 & TAG Heuer F1

14 November 2018, 05:55 AM	#25
arcadelt "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Monaro, NSW Posts: 846	Is this kind of behaviour even legal under consumer law?

14 November 2018, 06:10 AM	#30
daveathall "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Dave Location: England. Watch: Various Posts: 7,305	I would say eff em. You did the right thing in my opinion. I had good service from Fattorini (AD) in Harrogate as an independent to try. __________________ KINDEST REGARDS DAVE

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