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15 November 2012, 02:50 PM | #31 |
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This guy must be a crook. I cannot pull up any of his IDs...if he is legit, why have multiple eBay IDs....what a joke. He needs a punch in the face with his attitude....
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15 November 2012, 02:51 PM | #32 | |
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The guys post really annoyed me as well. Jumping on here like he did and trying to be some pompous Internet tough guy. I don't think he knew the extent of the knowledge of most of the people on this forum. You guys amaze me every day on the amount y'all know about these watches. |
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15 November 2012, 05:35 PM | #34 |
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real good close ups of older president hallmarks
not my photo, but correct older hallmarks,nice and clear stampings and note the G, i saved these for a rainy day and it looks like it's raining
You also have a few other things to look at as I stated in my earlier post, screw both ends, screw hole and the welds.
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15 November 2012, 05:51 PM | #35 |
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I can't help but wonder that maybe the buyer has a valid point as I see signs on the bracelet being not right?
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15 November 2012, 05:58 PM | #36 |
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Here's one:
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15 November 2012, 06:41 PM | #38 |
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May I suggest you go back and read the thread again and find this!!
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I can clearly see the 'G' under the lady (with my loupe) so I post this picture as an example. As for the buyer Kiyomikanai. Given his attitude and his insulting post there is little chance that he will be allowed to continue on this Forum once this matter is resolved. I suggest a refund and the watch returned to the seller. Why would a buyer want to keep a 'fake' bracelet? Unless he wants to onsell the watch as genuine?
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Hi mate I am not going to flame you. My pictures are perfect, the seller took them through some kind of loupe they are all distorted anywhere but in the dead centre of the photo, that has stuffed up the symmetry of the scrolling, the photo looks stretched in places imho. The scrolling has changed over the years slightly also. Neither the seller or buyer has ever provided the extra photos or info I asked for, the screw, screw hole and welds. I have asked all along via pm and on the open forum. I am still undecided on the band. You have to agree the guy had some attitude, I had to let him know we are not all fools here regards.
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However people keep the clasp and replace the band section with a new aftermarket bracelet, so you need to check the screws and screw holes and welds for key characteristics. .
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15 November 2012, 07:14 PM | #42 |
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Easily resolved.
Buyer returns bracelet, seller returns payment. Both parties would then be happy, wouldnt they???
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They are crisp and clear and shows the details. The 2 pictures I posted are yours on top and the bracelet in question on the bottom. The scroll work on the lower pic makes me wonder if it's legit and wonder if the buyer has a valid point. |
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#3: "it looks ok to me" #5: "seems OK for me" #8: "Looks good to me" #12: "I am no expert but I would say it is not fake." #20: "All the marking and patterns is real genuine Rolex" Of course, it depends of what you understand for "categorical", but none of the #2, 3, 5, 8 or 12 sound like a "categorical affirmation" to me. "looks" and "seems" do not fit that category, always in my humble opinion. Only post #20 could be construed in that way, although even in that case the talk is about the markings and not the bracelet itself. THE END from my side. |
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[QUOTE=joseluu;3719720]#2: "Looks like a Ladies President to me.. "
#3: "it looks ok to me" #5: "seems OK for me" #8: "Looks good to me" #12: "I am no expert but I would say it is not fake." #20: "All the marking and patterns is real genuine Rolex" Of course, it depends of what you understand for "categorical", but none of the #2, 3, 5, 8 or 12 sound like a "categorical affirmation" to me. "looks" and "seems" do not fit that category, always in my humble opinion. Only post #20 could be construed in that way, although even in that case the talk is about the markings and not the bracelet itself. THE END from my side.[/QUOTE] I certainly hope so. |
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I doubt that I'd ever do business with anyone with the user name RearLunge.
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You just asked me for the link pictures and up close lady head late last night. I have a sick daughter and a 4 month old boy. I'm not ignoring your request so please be patient. Here's the PM I sent you last night. Quote:
I've even said in my thread here AND in the PM to you that I don't see a G so it's quite possible it could be "fake". If I was trying to pull something I would've never made this thread and I would've just kept my mouth shut. I'm trying to find out the truth about my bracelet and if that means in the end it's "fake" then so be it. I've said ill accept a return. Paypal is holding the funds so he'll get his money back. Most everyone here has said it looks real and I believe it to be real. I've taken it to my AD once to get polished and once many years ago to get it serviced and nobody ever doubted the bracelet so why should I....until now when it's being questioned by the buyer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk EDIT: The lady head is really no better than the other 2. If I would have known I was looking for a tiny G I wouldve put better light on it and tried to capture it but I didnt know there was a G. I still dont see a G? I know Chad got banned but maybe he can take a macro shot with the right light and right loupe (I only have a 5X and 10X) and give it to one of the 2 guys that called him yesterday and they can post the picture up for him. Anyway here it is for what its worth: And here are the link / screw pictures: |
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Bump for pictures.....
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I cant stand Ebay. I sold a watch about 51 days ago to be exact and the buyer wouldnt even leave me a feedback and I had to call PayPal and have them look at history so they would release money because he wouldnt mark it received. He also contacted me for the first time since he bought it which was on the 48th day complaining the watch was running fast and I lied about service history. Well I contacted the people who serviced it and realized watch was under a one year warranty and I emailed him that info and he has yet to reply to that good news or leave me a feedback. My asumption was he was going to try to dispute the sale but still havent heard from him. Even though he called me a liar and I still went to work for him when I didnt even sale watch with a warranty. Turns out I am not a liar. Which I already knew that. LOL.
A couple of points to remember that I was told on Monday from Ebay and PayPal when it comes to dispute time lines. #1. PayPal gives the buyer 45 days from purchase date with a 5 day grace period to dispuute sale. So basically 50 days. Can you believe that?? #2. Ebay has 50 days period. #3. And most importantly I WILL NEVER SALE OR BUY A WATCH FROM EBAY FOR AS LONG AS I WALK GODS GREEN EARTH! Sorry to get off subject I was just reading this thread and got extremely frustrated especially since I had problems with a sale on Ebay this week also. Good luck to you my friend. I wish you the best.
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WOW! I agree, 50 days is RIDICULOUS! I think buyers should have 48hrs to inspect the goods. The buyer, a "used watch dealer for 20yrs." had my DJ a whole week before he filed the Paypal claim. Who knows what was done within that week!! I will never sell anything of value on eBay or Paypal ever again. Ive learned my lesson. |
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Ok, back to the subject at hand.
With all the pictures presented, what say you all? |
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