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13 November 2018, 09:52 AM | #511 |
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Congrats.
But fact UPS have not provided some explanation or basis for payout is concerning. Guess they don't adhere to the adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity. I still think the culprit was someone working at the UPS Store and their lack of explanation supports that conclusion. I will never use UPS for shipping valuable items. |
13 November 2018, 11:30 AM | #512 |
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...Satisfactory..to a point, that being you received your refund.. So I presume you're in the hunt for a replacement..!?
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13 November 2018, 11:39 AM | #513 |
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13 November 2018, 11:49 AM | #514 |
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..K.. So long as it worked out for the OP...-!
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14 November 2018, 04:30 PM | #516 |
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14 November 2018, 09:56 PM | #517 |
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I think you're making a scurrilous accusation here to cover up your fault in your extremely poor security practices at the shipper. UPS would not have paid out if they had any suspicion that the OP stole the watch. They paid because they found their process at fault.
I also don't think you would have budged off your stubborn finger pointing had the OP not taken you to court. You made up your mind it was his fault, or his crime, then you sat on your hands. I don't get the impression from your posts that you would have done the stand up thing if not forced to do so. |
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The UPS Store isn't UPS. It's a local franchise consignment outfit. When you ship through them, they are the shipper with UPS, not you, which complicates everything if something goes wrong. So the seller told the minimum wage crew kids there is something hugely valuable in this box and trusted them to be on their best behavior. Lessons learned. Ship directly with the courier service. Don't tell them there is a Rolex in the box. Call it precision instrumentation and insure for watch value. |
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14 November 2018, 11:35 PM | #519 | |
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...51#post8680551 To me this seems a little odd to say the least that the OP didnt wait at all for this scenario to develop a little bit before buying another identical watch. Maybe all legit but to me is suspicious. Then on June 15th he gives vinceb a good guy review in the who's who section which is 2 days after his initial post. I think a picture of a partial serial number would clear things up in my mind of his current watch. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...70#post8679270 Would be easy enough to contact vinceb to see if this did in fact happen. Again not accusing anyone of anything, just following the time line here since the OP is a newer member with limited posts and this empty Rolex box is a fairly well know scam thats been happening. |
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15 November 2018, 12:31 AM | #520 |
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this thread keeps giving haha what is next now ??
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15 November 2018, 01:29 AM | #521 |
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Wow major lessons learned. i suspect UPS saw something on the camera footage with the employees after checking. looks like OP has stopped responding despite the latest insinuation. Glad it worked out
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15 November 2018, 01:52 AM | #522 | |
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No one can speak to how other people choose to spend their money, or how impatient someone might be to own a watch, so I don't think it's fair to insinuate the OP is a criminal because he moved on quicker than you or I might have. OTOH, the seller hid out until he had both the OP's money and the insurance claim money in hand, then complained that he had to answer for the OP's loss to a judge. |
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15 November 2018, 03:27 AM | #523 | |
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Clearly the lesson learned is seller should NEVER bring a watch and let them package it. That was not smart at all. Seller is very fortunate to get his money back. At the end of they day seller is responsible to make sure the watch reaches to the buyer. If all fails then seller deal with insurance. |
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Shippers don’t need to know there is a Rolex in the box. Shipping a Rolex is almost as risky as mailing large sums of cash. The seller here was extremely careless announcing to the world what was in the package. |
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Why would anyone let a shipper package a Rolex is freaking beyond me!!! This is like kindergarten 101 of high end watches... Somethin your little pumpkin just won't and shouldn't do... |
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15 November 2018, 07:59 AM | #530 |
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We were in a business that utilized UPS for most shipments.
We always checked the weight of packages going in or out. Had several instances of a package arriving 'short weighted'. UPS security department ( mostly former Police Officers) was instrumental in finding the spot in their system where the package wasn't being observed. They caught the employees in a UPS facility who targeted packages to a certain group of consignees/consignors which we were a member of. |
15 November 2018, 08:18 AM | #531 |
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Wow sounds like a messed up situation!
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15 November 2018, 03:50 PM | #532 | |
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15 November 2018, 10:58 PM | #533 | |
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15 November 2018, 11:43 PM | #534 |
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This whole matter hinged on trust - I mean seller, buyer, and carrier.
I sure don’t think ill of the parties, but somewhere out there is a “stolen” Rolex. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
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16 November 2018, 01:41 AM | #535 |
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And what is the serial number of the watch? It should be known to public and Rolex as stolen.
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16 November 2018, 01:42 AM | #536 |
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16 November 2018, 02:03 AM | #537 |
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this would be possible if the watch was removed by a ups employee in prior to being put on the scales?
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16 November 2018, 02:48 AM | #538 |
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My thoughts exactly. I used to use UPS. They had a distribution center 10 minutes from where I lived. I sell alot of high end items that we cant talk about here. I take great pride in packaging my items where they cant get damaged unless the airplane ran the package over. EVERY time I went there to ship my items they had to know what was in the box and had me open it up to show them it was properly packaged. That got real old and I went with another carrier that didnt ask as many questions. Dont know if its a UPS policy or not but I dont use them if I can help it and thats 20+ years ago now. I also believe in not letting them know whats in the package to prevent the sticky finger scenario.
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16 November 2018, 03:14 AM | #539 |
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Sure, but certainly not anything the OP would have been part of, which seller still infers.
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Given his persistance promoting these accusations, I’m not convinced the seller would have refunded the buyer, even after getting the claim money, had the buyer not taken him to court. |
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