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Old 10 February 2015, 08:19 PM   #31
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Any news about UK prices please? Was going to put down a deposit on an Aquanaut today currently £13,710.
far too expensive even w the 7%increase on EU pricing
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Old 10 February 2015, 08:28 PM   #32
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George is right, that´s about 1500 quid too much.
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Old 10 February 2015, 08:32 PM   #33
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How can they reduce prices in US$ when the dollar took 15% on the CHF????? Prices increased in EUrope by 7%, good I bought mine before, even if not from Patek I would expect the grey dealers to follow the increase...
Because US already pays a 20% premium to Switzerland. So now it is 13% vs 20% that is how and also the dollar picked up roughly half of that decline already.
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:02 PM   #34
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Do you have a Singapore price list you could share?

Going there on business soon
Sorry no I have no price list, I just called about the 5726. I do have a limited list of prices for hongkong though.
Let me know if you want me to check if it has the models of your interest on it
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:04 PM   #35
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Because US already pays a 20% premium to Switzerland. So now it is 13% vs 20% that is how and also the dollar picked up roughly half of that decline already.
Similar for Asia and Australasia prices....
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:05 PM   #36
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far too expensive even w the 7%increase on EU pricing
imho
Remember UK has 20% VAT/slaes tax and everything is generally overpriced to shits
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:07 PM   #37
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Sorry no I have no price list, I just called about the 5726. I do have a limited list of prices for hongkong though.
Let me know if you want me to check if it has the models of your interest on it
No worries mate. I'll be in HK soon.
Can you check pls?
5164
5712
5167
5205g and r
Thanks!
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:10 PM   #38
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I think this will hurt owners with current references that they already have a tough time selling and don't think it will improve sales for them either. For those who buy right your discount just got bigger. For those who pay retail well you know. For those who own retired references with strong demand means nothing to you! For the very hard pieces to source that Patek doesn't discount much they will still remain very hard to source pieces. So now world will have more even playing field for prices. Again buy right and buy the right pieces and life goes on!
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:20 PM   #39
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Remember UK has 20% VAT/slaes tax and everything is generally overpriced to shits
same all over Europe pal , my reply based on German prices which incl. 19%VAT ,
it was €15330 before Iguess now around 16400 which is about £12160.
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:22 PM   #40
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I think this will hurt owners with current references that they already have a tough time selling and don't think it will improve sales for them either. For those who buy right your discount just got bigger. For those who pay retail well you know. For those who own retired references with strong demand means nothing to you! For the very hard pieces to source that Patek doesn't discount much they will still remain very hard to source pieces. So now world will have more even playing field for prices. Again buy right and buy the right pieces and life goes on!
Amen .
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:23 PM   #41
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@Puffy:
5164 236700HKD
5712 sorry dont have price for this one but 5990 is 370800HKD
5167-001 131800HKD, 5167/1A-001 152300HKD
5167R 247000HKD
5205G-001 and 5205G-010 both 333800HKD same price for R models

This is valid from 10th February 2015, hope it helps
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:28 PM   #42
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:31 PM   #43
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5164 236700HKD
5712 sorry dont have price for this one but 5990 is 370800HKD
5167-001 131800HKD, 5167/1A-001 152300HKD
5167R 247000HKD
5205g and r 5205G-001 and 5205G-010 both 333800HKD same for R models

This is valid from 10th February 2015, hope it helps
Thanks mate very much appreciated!
With a bit of discount the above pieces are very attractively priced
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:32 PM   #44
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@Puffy:
5164 236700HKD
5712 sorry dont have price for this one but 5990 is 370800HKD
5167-001 131800HKD, 5167/1A-001 152300HKD
5167R 247000HKD
5205g and r 5205G-001 and 5205G-010 both 333800HKD same for R models

This is valid from 10th February 2015, hope it helps

I had my eye on a 5167R. That new list price is amazing
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:32 PM   #45
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@Puffy:
5164 236700HKD
5712 sorry dont have price for this one but 5990 is 370800HKD
5167-001 131800HKD, 5167/1A-001 152300HKD
5167R 247000HKD
5205g and r 5205G-001 and 5205G-010 both 333800HKD same for R models

This is valid from 10th February 2015, hope it helps
5164 236700HKD

are you sure ?it was about HKD279000 before the increase here in EU
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:35 PM   #46
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I had my eye on a 5167R. That new list price is amazing
same here just there are two more contender -the 64 and the 67 A-
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Old 10 February 2015, 09:54 PM   #47
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20% price drop in HK. I just confirmed with an AD.
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Old 10 February 2015, 10:08 PM   #48
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Old 10 February 2015, 10:20 PM   #49
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I have not contacted any AD directly in Hong Kong to confirm the prices. This list was given to me today with only "Valid as of 10th February, 2015" written across it and I respect my sources/contacts. Thats all i have for now, sorry
In Switzerland the 2014 price was 30000CHF. I dare say that with the 5% price drop minus 8% VAT, Switzerland is still a contender for anybody able to purchase Taxfree. The slightly biassed statement from Beyer was that the intention was that it should always be slightly more attractive to purchase PP in Switzerland.
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with all these prices decrease, it will make the pricing matrix go south and not inline with others brands where there are increasing their price such as AP ? It just cannot understand.
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Old 10 February 2015, 10:50 PM   #51
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with all these prices decrease, it will make the pricing matrix go south and not inline with others brands where there are increasing their price such as AP ? It just cannot understand.
May AP took the wrong route
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with all these prices decrease, it will make the pricing matrix go south and not inline with others brands where there are increasing their price such as AP ? It just cannot understand.
Will certainly make it less attractive for grey dealers. No margin or parallel importing benefits.

See what happens with preloved goods. There should be a few bargains coming up
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5164 236700HKD
5712 sorry dont have price for this one but 5990 is 370800HKD
5167-001 131800HKD, 5167/1A-001 152300HKD
5167R 247000HKD
5205G-001 and 5205G-010 both 333800HKD same price for R models

This is valid from 10th February 2015, hope it helps
Got additional HKD prices for the following
5712/1A-001 231200
5712G-001 30300
5712GR-001 314000
5712R-001 30300

5711/1A-010/011 172800
5726/1A-001 274800
5726/1A-010/001 307700
5960/1A-001 355100


Still, taking the 5167 as an example:
131800HKD = 15698CHF at rate 0.1191
Swiss list price has dropped from 16700CHF by 5%, minus 8% VAT and Swiss prices are still lower than the lowered Hong Kong prices. Of course this is not factoring any discounts
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:06 PM   #54
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:18 PM   #55
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May AP took the wrong route
No. Since AP increase price while PP reduce, it means AP is now more prestigious than PP.
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:18 PM   #56
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:20 PM   #57
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I had to check the calendar when I first read this thread - I thought it was an April Fool's Day joke.

I'll be curious when someone can confirm what the actual drop is in the US.
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:21 PM   #58
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Any idea whether they adjusted wholesale pricing?
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Old 10 February 2015, 11:41 PM   #59
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For those wanting to get into Patek it's a great time.

I remember when AP did this several years ago and pissed off a bunch of RG buyers.

It's funny because if there is a price decrease people will complain, if there is a price increase people will complain. No win. My vote is price decrease.
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This has to be a joke. I have an incoming on the fed ex truck right now.
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