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Old 9 September 2018, 08:53 PM   #1
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3135 running fast

Hi, i have a 16613 circa 1996 and i noticed it is running fast. i have a timegrapher i bought when i was in china . i tried to see what is wrong with the watch.
watch on top, +974s/d rate, 340 amplitude 1.6ms beat error
side crown up +3s/d rate 339 amplitude 0.4ms beat error
crystal down +3s/d rate 327 amplitude 0.4ms beat error
sidecrown down +1 s/d rate 321 amplitude 0.1ms beat error?

what is wrong with the movement? it is only during watch lying with crystal up taht has +974 s/d! how can i go rectifying/ correcting this? thanks to all who can help.!
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Old 9 September 2018, 09:32 PM   #2
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might be dirt in the insetting on one of the pivots. Could be a worn pivot or adjusted with old crusty oil on the jewels

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Old 9 September 2018, 09:38 PM   #3
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I'm thinking dry pallets which results in an extremely high amplitude. I fixed an Oyster Perpetual under warranty just last week with pretty much the exact same problem.

I cleaned the pallet fork and gave it some good lubrication and swapped the mainspring + barrel.
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I'm thinking dry pallets which results in an extremely high amplitude. I fixed an Oyster Perpetual under warranty just last week with pretty much the exact same problem.

I cleaned the pallet fork and gave it some good lubrication and swapped the mainspring + barrel.
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Old 9 September 2018, 10:22 PM   #5
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Thanks for the inputs. swapping mainspring and barrel, meaning cleaning it or putting new ones?
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Old 9 September 2018, 10:27 PM   #6
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Thanks for the inputs. swapping mainspring and barrel, meaning cleaning it or putting new ones?
I always take a new one, I'm lazy.
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Thanks for the inputs. swapping mainspring and barrel, meaning cleaning it or putting new ones?
Pita winding a new spring in. Buy complete.

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Old 9 September 2018, 10:38 PM   #8
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I always take a new one, I'm lazy.

Always best to have new mainspring anyway :)

Also could be lack of breaking grease inside barrel. Check the numbers half wound and see how it’s running.


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Old 9 September 2018, 10:44 PM   #9
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thanks to all, will buy first a new mainspring.
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Old 9 September 2018, 10:46 PM   #10
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thanks to all, will buy first a new mainspring.
And buy some Rl2 pallet grease, I'm quite certain that a dry escapement is the biggest problem here.
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Old 9 September 2018, 11:35 PM   #11
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I always find these threads informative. Thanks guys
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And buy some Rl2 pallet grease, I'm quite certain that a dry escapement is the biggest problem here.


If you can’t get rl2, moebius 9415 will work perfectly as well.


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Old 10 September 2018, 09:19 PM   #13
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