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criggs19 · 25 January 2009, 12:13 AM

What do you guys think of this one? Got to be fake right?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

TimeToGo · 25 January 2009, 12:29 AM

This seller is actually a member of TRF and has a couple of items for sale here as well.

criggs19 · 25 January 2009, 12:41 AM

Really? So is this auction going to end up going much, much higher? Don't these typically go for 10 of thousands of dollars?

CR

eshoper · 25 January 2009, 12:58 AM

about there considering the shape.

Orchi · 25 January 2009, 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeToGo

This seller is actually a member of TRF and has a couple of items for sale here as well.

Err buddy TTG...who is the TRF member...?

criggs19 · 25 January 2009, 01:32 AM

I found him, he goes by the same name here, yiannis. I have actually looked at his posts before. All, or most at least, of his watches that he sells have NATO type bands, not the originals.

Orchi · 25 January 2009, 01:55 AM

Err buddies...regardless of whether or not...he is one of the TRF members...
Orchi doesn't know him...

Lets get back to this DRSD...being listed in eBay n highlighted in here...
for scrutiny...

Dial: Said to be of 1665 DRSD Dial...Mk. IV...by RSC...

On Jan-22-09 at 16:09:49 PST, seller added the following information:

The watch inspected today from RSC: they said that the dial is the version IV and all watch looks pretty fine. Thnx.

In Orchi's own opinion...that may NOT be true...!

Although the case serial # of the watch being listed is said to be 2,xxx,xxx...
which would seem to fit in to the range of DRSD with Mk. IV Dial...ONE can
see clearly that...there are discrepancies on the Dial being listed...vs...
the REAL Deal...DRSD Mk. IV Dial...which is quite commonly found...

Picture courtesy of www.doubleredseadweller.com

1. The positions of markers are by comparison...WRONG.
2. The Coronet is by comparison...WRONG.
3. The 6 n 9 o'clock rectangular markers are by comparison...WRONG.

criggs19 · 25 January 2009, 04:15 AM

"The watch inspected today from RSC: they said that the dial is the version IV and all watch looks pretty fine. Thnx."

This is the statement that bothered be the most. Is it that easy just to pop in to a RSC and have them look at a watch?

CR

Terry Newton · 25 January 2009, 04:25 AM

Orchi:

Can you take a picture of both and post them side by side for comparison purposes?

Terry Newton

Orchi · 25 January 2009, 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orchi

Err buddies...regardless of whether or not...he is one of the TRF members...
Orchi doesn't know him...

Lets get back to this DRSD...being listed in eBay n highlighted in here...
for scrutiny...

Dial: Said to be of 1665 DRSD Dial...Mk. IV...by RSC...

On Jan-22-09 at 16:09:49 PST, seller added the following information:

The watch inspected today from RSC: they said that the dial is the version IV and all watch looks pretty fine. Thnx.

In Orchi's own opinion...that may NOT be true...!

Although the case serial # of the watch being listed is said to be 2,xxx,xxx...
which would seem to fit in to the range of DRSD with Mk. IV Dial...ONE can
see clearly that...there are discrepancies on the Dial being listed...vs...
the REAL Deal...DRSD Mk. IV Dial...which is quite commonly found...

Picture courtesy of www.doubleredseadweller.com

1. The positions of markers are by comparison...WRONG.
2. The Coronet is by comparison...WRONG.
3. The 6 n 9 o'clock rectangular markers are by comparison...WRONG.

Err buddies...if the picture from DRSD.com doesn't upload well...
here it is once again...

eBay "DRSD"...

DRSD Mk. IV...by www.doubleredseadweller.com

Terry Newton · 25 January 2009, 04:38 AM

Could it be a re-dial?

Terry Newton

Orchi · 25 January 2009, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

Could it be a re-dial?

Terry Newton

Err buddy Terry...you are quite SPOT ON...!

BUT Orchi believes that...it is a FAKEEEEEE DRSD Dial...!

Orchi · 27 January 2009, 12:34 AM

Err buddies...hopes Lady Casper didn't miss this one...

AIKO · 27 January 2009, 12:16 PM

I am by no means an expert. However, Yiannis has a very solid reputation selling I thought?

cmr · 27 January 2009, 01:19 PM

this should be good.

onkyo · 27 January 2009, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AIKO

I am by no means an expert. However, Yiannis has a very solid reputation selling I thought?

I guess he is not a regular in the 'Watchout' section.

As buddy Orchi said, the crown does not look right and hour markers are off. This appears to be a fakerroooo. There are A LOT of them floating around.

Orchi · 4 February 2009, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orchi

Err buddies...if the picture from DRSD.com doesn't upload well...
here it is once again...

eBay "DRSD"...REDONE wannabe...to look like Mk. IV DRSD.

The REAL DEAL of Mk. IV DRSD...look like these pictures below.

DRSD Mk. IV...by www.doubleredseadweller.com

Err buddies...the relevant eBay Seller(also a TRF's forum member) has NOT
responded to this thread...where his eBay listing of the DRSD watch...
has been terminated...by eBay.

Orchi would like to invite the Seller for further discussion...since he is still
insisting that the Dial on his DRSD is genuine DRSD Dial...verified by RSC....in another
thread.

So buddy Yiannis...please come in...

Orchi · 4 February 2009, 01:33 PM

Err buddies...this is by no means...an attempt to personalized the issues...
regarding the relevant eBay Seller...

Orchi has since done just a little homeworks...from
eBay's materials found on eBay Seller - YiannisZ (199 FB) - No Longer a
Registered User...

IF one were to look closely at the eBay Seller - YiannisZ 's FeedBack History...as a Buyer...
The Seller has been very actively buying specifically parts of Rolex watches...
perhaps for his own projects...

The parts maybe genuine...or the parts may be NOT genuine Rolex.

However...these particular ones caught a keen attention...

The relevant parts are ALL stated by the respective eBay Sellers as...
AFTERMAKET stuffs...REFINISHED...or REDONE...REDIALED(in Orchi's book)!

In Orchi's little "555" book...these are...
Wannabes...FAKEEEE...!!!

yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-27-08 02:54
-- (#140281212540) -- View Item

yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-27-08 02:53
-- (#140281516291) -- View Item

yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-27-08 02:52
-- (#140281516291) -- View Item

wholesaleoutlet990 ( 11665 [Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,499] )
Nov-21-08 10:25
-- -- Private

jm3262 ( 484 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
No longer a registered user Nov-21-08 08:59
-- -- Private

yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-21-08 06:36
-- (#140279398231) -- View Item

hitecpro ( 2173 [Feedback score is 1,000 to 4,999] )
Nov-16-08 19:02
-- (#200262365756) -- View Item

ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-12-08 07:40
-- (#150242815228) -- View Item

ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-12-08 07:11
-- (#170213045770) -- View Item

ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Nov-12-08 07:08
-- (#150239690344) -- View Item

http://ndtradingcorp.com/zen/index.p...products_id=20

Especially the above AFTERMARKET Refinished...REDONE ones...
which resembles the Mk. IV DRSD Dial...!!!

onkyo · 4 February 2009, 01:55 PM

OMG..... a scammer amongst us.

Excellent work Orchi....

Truly, an admirable job.

The mods should look at this asap.

25 January 2009, 04:25 AM	#9
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Orchi: Can you take a picture of both and post them side by side for comparison purposes? Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

25 January 2009, 04:38 AM	#11
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Could it be a re-dial? Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

25 January 2009, 12:13 AM	#1
criggs19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Pensacola,Florida Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 286	DRSD on Ebay What do you guys think of this one? Got to be fake right? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...E:B:SS:US:1123

25 January 2009, 12:29 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,632	This seller is actually a member of TRF and has a couple of items for sale here as well.

25 January 2009, 12:41 AM	#3
criggs19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Pensacola,Florida Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 286	Really? So is this auction going to end up going much, much higher? Don't these typically go for 10 of thousands of dollars? CR

25 January 2009, 12:58 AM	#4
eshoper "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ptown Posts: 8	about there considering the shape.

25 January 2009, 01:32 AM	#6
criggs19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Pensacola,Florida Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 286	I found him, he goes by the same name here, yiannis. I have actually looked at his posts before. All, or most at least, of his watches that he sells have NATO type bands, not the originals.

25 January 2009, 01:55 AM	#7
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...regardless of whether or not...he is one of the TRF members... Orchi doesn't know him... Lets get back to this DRSD...being listed in eBay n highlighted in here... for scrutiny... Dial: Said to be of 1665 DRSD Dial...Mk. IV...by RSC... On Jan-22-09 at 16:09:49 PST, seller added the following information: The watch inspected today from RSC: they said that the dial is the version IV and all watch looks pretty fine. Thnx. In Orchi's own opinion...that may NOT be true...! Although the case serial # of the watch being listed is said to be 2,xxx,xxx... which would seem to fit in to the range of DRSD with Mk. IV Dial...ONE can see clearly that...there are discrepancies on the Dial being listed...vs... the REAL Deal...DRSD Mk. IV Dial...which is quite commonly found... Picture courtesy of www.doubleredseadweller.com 1. The positions of markers are by comparison...WRONG. 2. The Coronet is by comparison...WRONG. 3. The 6 n 9 o'clock rectangular markers are by comparison...WRONG.

25 January 2009, 04:15 AM	#8
criggs19 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Pensacola,Florida Watch: Rolex Explorer II Posts: 286	"The watch inspected today from RSC: they said that the dial is the version IV and all watch looks pretty fine. Thnx." This is the statement that bothered be the most. Is it that easy just to pop in to a RSC and have them look at a watch? CR

27 January 2009, 12:34 AM	#13
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...hopes Lady Casper didn't miss this one...

27 January 2009, 12:16 PM	#14
AIKO "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,937	I am by no means an expert. However, Yiannis has a very solid reputation selling I thought?

27 January 2009, 01:19 PM	#15
cmr "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: marcus Location: us, oklahoma Posts: 1,646	this should be good. __________________ cmr OA-Black dial SS Daytona, V-White dial SS Daytona, Z-GMT2C Wife, Z-Platinum Yacht Master, Black ceramic White dial SS Daytona,

4 February 2009, 01:33 PM	#18
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddies...this is by no means...an attempt to personalized the issues... regarding the relevant eBay Seller... Orchi has since done just a little homeworks...from eBay's materials found on eBay Seller - YiannisZ (199 FB) - No Longer a Registered User... IF one were to look closely at the eBay Seller - YiannisZ 's FeedBack History...as a Buyer... The Seller has been very actively buying specifically parts of Rolex watches... perhaps for his own projects... The parts maybe genuine...or the parts may be NOT genuine Rolex. However...these particular ones caught a keen attention... The relevant parts are ALL stated by the respective eBay Sellers as... AFTERMAKET stuffs...REFINISHED...or REDONE...REDIALED(in Orchi's book)! In Orchi's little "555" book...these are... Wannabes...FAKEEEE...!!! yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-27-08 02:54 -- (#140281212540) -- View Item yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-27-08 02:53 -- (#140281516291) -- View Item yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-27-08 02:52 -- (#140281516291) -- View Item wholesaleoutlet990 ( 11665 [Feedback score is 10,000 to 24,499] ) Nov-21-08 10:25 -- -- Private jm3262 ( 484 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) No longer a registered user Nov-21-08 08:59 -- -- Private yukiwatch ( 256 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-21-08 06:36 -- (#140279398231) -- View Item hitecpro ( 2173 [Feedback score is 1,000 to 4,999] ) Nov-16-08 19:02 -- (#200262365756) -- View Item ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-12-08 07:40 -- (#150242815228) -- View Item ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-12-08 07:11 -- (#170213045770) -- View Item ndtrading5562 ( 205 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] ) Nov-12-08 07:08 -- (#150239690344) -- View Item http://ndtradingcorp.com/zen/index.p...products_id=20 Especially the above AFTERMARKET Refinished...REDONE ones... which resembles the Mk. IV DRSD Dial...!!!

4 February 2009, 01:55 PM	#19
onkyo Banned Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Pav Location: Manhattan Posts: 11,495	OMG..... a scammer amongst us. Excellent work Orchi.... Truly, an admirable job. The mods should look at this asap.

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