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capital · 27 July 2019, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by martinr

I understand the question. Maybe find another AD if you don’t like the way that one operates. Or tell your AD when you order a watch you don’t want anyone else trying it on.

I have a watch incoming in the next few days, and I told the AD he could show it but not let anyone try it on

bonsai-man · 27 July 2019, 01:30 AM

In my my experience new Patek Philippe watches remain sealed until they are paid for. I suspect these were sold and probably in for a sonic clean or waiting to be sent to the service centre. Watches returning from service are also sealed and only opened on collection.

I know how hard it is see the waiting list models, so if mine are at the AD I always say they are free to show show other customers and let them try them on. I guess this guy did the same, or wait are those my watches.

kultschar · 27 July 2019, 01:41 AM

Is that a mark on the Aqua bezel?

martinr · 27 July 2019, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by capital

I have a watch incoming in the next few days, and I told the AD he could show it but not let anyone try it on

That’s what I do. Actually I tell my AD let’s cut the seal when I pick it up.

ts3 · 27 July 2019, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kultschar

Is that a mark on the Aqua bezel?

My first though as well when I saw the pic.

GB-man · 27 July 2019, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Jab

TBH with you, i would drop them both on purpose right on the floor, making sure it dents them, which would force me to buy them. Wouldn't keep both but it's always added value to have a Nautilus and an Aquanaut.

Same lol dropped that 5711 right on the floor hahaa

Those were not sold. Those are bait for a grand comp purchase.

Aquaman · 27 July 2019, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonsai-man

In my my experience new Patek Philippe watches remain sealed until they are paid for. I suspect these were sold and probably in for a sonic clean or waiting to be sent to the service centre. Watches returning from service are also sealed and only opened on collection.

I know how hard it is see the waiting list models, so if mine are at the AD I always say they are free to show show other customers and let them try them on. I guess this guy did the same, or wait are those my watches.

Yours are always of for a service

SL BRABUS · 27 July 2019, 02:53 AM

With respect to the new allocated customer, I would politely decline trying on.....

capital · 27 July 2019, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kultschar

Is that a mark on the Aqua bezel?

Where? Can't see it

bonsai-man · 27 July 2019, 02:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaman

Yours are always of for a service

You don’t know the half of it, let’s just say the broken incoming is now an outgoing, again.

capital · 27 July 2019, 03:00 AM

Oh my... you're right

strettyend · 27 July 2019, 03:13 AM

I know I have sat in GT Porsche's allocated to other people at dealers that are way more valuable and awesome than a steel Patek. I mean as long as you don't break it who cares? We aren't talking about moon rocks here.

tchaic · 27 July 2019, 03:26 AM

I harass strangers to try on their Patek’s so clearly I have no shame.

WatchLurv · 27 July 2019, 03:58 AM

Not sure who the AD is but their MO is all wrong.

A Patek AD will always open the box (cut the seal) in front of you. Then scissor the second seal in front of you. It's part of the experience to know you are the owner of this watch and you're the first to touch it since leaving Geneva.

If I try it on I'll just get too hungry. It's a no from me. I'll hold them, but that's about it.

GreenLantern · 27 July 2019, 05:30 AM

Yeah, I don't like how this feels to me at all.

If it's a customer allocated watch, no one should touch or try it on unless the customer has passed on it.

You did well to politely decline. But on the AD's part, they should've never offered. The last time an AD did that with one of my pieces (many, many years ago), and I found out about it, I moved onto a different AD.

GreenLantern · 27 July 2019, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by strettyend

I know I have sat in GT Porsche's allocated to other people at dealers that are way more valuable and awesome than a steel Patek. I mean as long as you don't break it who cares? We aren't talking about moon rocks here.

I don't want your skin flakes embedded in my bracelet links.

And if someone takes my GT2 RS for a test drive, other than the tech handling the PDI, and I find out about it, there'll be hell to pay (there was, once, and they also lost my business).

Some of us like to be the first to touch brand new things that we paid a lot of $$$ for. :)

To each their own, of course!

Aquaman · 27 July 2019, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I don't want your skin flakes embedded in my bracelet links.

And if someone takes my GT2 RS for a test drive, other than the tech handling the PDI, and I find out about it, there'll be hell to pay (there was, once, and they also lost my business).

Some of us like to be the first to touch brand new things that we paid a lot of $$$ for. :)

To each their own, of course!

what about sneakers or jeans ?

i agree with u about watches, all tho harsh to find a new AD,

cars mmmmm

ap1 · 27 July 2019, 05:51 AM

Ad should be closed

AK797 · 27 July 2019, 05:58 AM

Very reckless for an AD to do this with these bezel models, on a CE Rolex I can more understand it, but still no customers want their new watch to be tried on by others first, but seller's are so powerful now some just don't care.

bonsai-man · 27 July 2019, 06:03 AM

Skin flakes.

strettyend · 27 July 2019, 06:28 AM

The only solution to this problem is for manufactures to increase production so everyone can have a watch to try on and buy!

Fat_ninja · 27 July 2019, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bonsai-man

Skin flakes.

I thought I had issues...

GreenLantern · 27 July 2019, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaman

what about sneakers or jeans ?

i agree with u about watches, all tho harsh to find a new AD,

cars mmmmm

I only buy shoes direct. I've long stopped buying stuff off the shelf.

Same with jeans. I like ripping open the plastic bag that they come in.

GreenLantern · 27 July 2019, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bonsai-man

Skin flakes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

I thought I had issues...

I'm spending $100k on a watch that's labeled "new" (and not vintage). I don't want your skin flakes.

You can keep 'em!

GreenLantern · 27 July 2019, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strettyend

The only solution to this problem is for manufactures to increase production so everyone can have a watch to try on and buy!

This is why some (I think FP Journe used to do this, not sure if they still do) have dummy models for you to try and explore the fit.

Fat_ninja · 27 July 2019, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I'm spending $100k on a watch that's labeled "new" (and not vintage). I don't want your skin flakes.

You can keep 'em!

Think about it...someone’s DNA.

WatchLurv · 27 July 2019, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

This is why some (I think FP Journe used to do this, not sure if they still do) have dummy models for you to try and explore the fit.

Rolex has dummy models too. Just difference is the weight as no movement in it. Just the "shell". They use these models on exhibitions.

Not much for an exhibition now since all the watches they show off are unobtainable. They're however loving that people can't get them.

d11n · 27 July 2019, 08:33 AM

When I got my Calatrava, I didn't want the display case/floor model and waited an extra two weeks for them to get me a sealed version as I wanted the strap in pristine condition, I didn't like the "kink" the strap had from how it was displayed. It sort of makes me laugh when I look at the strap today and its wear from being my daily.

But, I think as long as our watches will be from super limited allocations and long waitlists and curated AD relationships then we should be able to expect to be the first to handle our long awaited orders.

...but I'd trade away the waitlists, sealed, double sealed, outer box, uncut hang tag string, ... re-sell oriented craziness for good old retail stores we could browse inventory, try things on and maybe even buy on impulse.

strettyend · 27 July 2019, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

This is why some (I think FP Journe used to do this, not sure if they still do) have dummy models for you to try and explore the fit.

Prefer that. Also please share your 2RS :)

vtsyrlin · 30 July 2019, 06:01 PM

Gents. You've all missed the point with 5167r.
The strap is still uncut and clasp isnt connected.
You cant properly try it on!

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27 July 2019, 06:28 AM	#51
strettyend "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Miami Posts: 1,654	The only solution to this problem is for manufactures to increase production so everyone can have a watch to try on and buy! __________________ AP ROC 26315or; AP RO 15450st; Vacheron Fiftysix; Day Date RG 228235 Olive; Daytona YG 116528; Daytona YG Oysterflex 116518; Cartier Santos de Cartier Rose Gold; Panerai PAM 0048; IWC Portofino Chrono; Girard-Perregaux Richeville

27 July 2019, 01:30 AM	#32
bonsai-man "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 727	In my my experience new Patek Philippe watches remain sealed until they are paid for. I suspect these were sold and probably in for a sonic clean or waiting to be sent to the service centre. Watches returning from service are also sealed and only opened on collection. I know how hard it is see the waiting list models, so if mine are at the AD I always say they are free to show show other customers and let them try them on. I guess this guy did the same, or wait are those my watches.

27 July 2019, 01:41 AM	#33
kultschar "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: End of the World Watch: PP & Rolex Posts: 1,970	Is that a mark on the Aqua bezel?

27 July 2019, 03:00 AM	#41
capital "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Europe Posts: 276	Oh my... you're right

27 July 2019, 03:26 AM	#43
tchaic "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: Tag Heuer 2000 Posts: 490	I harass strangers to try on their Patek’s so clearly I have no shame.

27 July 2019, 03:58 AM	#44
WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	Not sure who the AD is but their MO is all wrong. A Patek AD will always open the box (cut the seal) in front of you. Then scissor the second seal in front of you. It's part of the experience to know you are the owner of this watch and you're the first to touch it since leaving Geneva. If I try it on I'll just get too hungry. It's a no from me. I'll hold them, but that's about it.

27 July 2019, 05:30 AM	#45
GreenLantern "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Montana Posts: 3,223	Yeah, I don't like how this feels to me at all. If it's a customer allocated watch, no one should touch or try it on unless the customer has passed on it. You did well to politely decline. But on the AD's part, they should've never offered. The last time an AD did that with one of my pieces (many, many years ago), and I found out about it, I moved onto a different AD.

27 July 2019, 05:51 AM	#48
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,077	Ad should be closed

27 July 2019, 05:58 AM	#49
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,270	Very reckless for an AD to do this with these bezel models, on a CE Rolex I can more understand it, but still no customers want their new watch to be tried on by others first, but seller's are so powerful now some just don't care.

27 July 2019, 06:03 AM	#50
bonsai-man "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: UK Posts: 727	Skin flakes.

27 July 2019, 08:33 AM	#58
d11n "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: UTC/GMT -8 hours Watch: yes Posts: 415	When I got my Calatrava, I didn't want the display case/floor model and waited an extra two weeks for them to get me a sealed version as I wanted the strap in pristine condition, I didn't like the "kink" the strap had from how it was displayed. It sort of makes me laugh when I look at the strap today and its wear from being my daily. But, I think as long as our watches will be from super limited allocations and long waitlists and curated AD relationships then we should be able to expect to be the first to handle our long awaited orders. ...but I'd trade away the waitlists, sealed, double sealed, outer box, uncut hang tag string, ... re-sell oriented craziness for good old retail stores we could browse inventory, try things on and maybe even buy on impulse.

30 July 2019, 06:01 PM	#60
vtsyrlin "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Melbourne, Aus Posts: 141	Gents. You've all missed the point with 5167r. The strap is still uncut and clasp isnt connected. You cant properly try it on!

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