AP 2021 Release Rumors

[edo]

And there is the new quick change... double push on the backside release the strap.. great great addition... the size is 42mm...

[dauster]

Originally Posted by edo

And there is the new quick change... double push on the backside release the strap.. great great addition... the size is 42mm...

that's right I heard that too, glad its confirmed. Green offshore diver looks like a clear winner for now!!!

Will the quick release strap system be available for all new offshores and not just the divers?

[edo]

Originally Posted by dauster

that's right I heard that too, glad its confirmed. Green offshore diver looks like a clear winner for now!!!

Will the quick release strap system be available for all new offshores and not just the divers?

Yes it will...

And there is live from monochrome of gold ceramic Code...

[Burlington]

Originally Posted by edo

And there is the new quick change... double push on the backside release the strap.. great great addition... the size is 42mm...

Looks awesome !

Ceramic crowns too ?

[edo]

Prefer blue over green on live pics... quick release strap is done right...

[dauster]

Originally Posted by edo

Yes it will...

And there is live from monochrome of gold ceramic Code...

thanks for sharing, so the article says it's 38.6k CHF that's $41k. Did they lower the price or are they just more expensive here in the US 47k or 6k difference is a lot.

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by dauster

thanks for sharing, so the article says it's 38.6k CHF that's $41k. Did they lower the price or are they just more expensive here in the US 47k or 6k difference is a lot.

It’s about 45k us. I just talked with my sales. I’m getting a white gold one.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

It’s about 45k us. I just talked with my sales. I’m getting a white gold one.

got it nice and congrats. really liking the ceramic sides but not enough to pay 50k :) do post pics when you get it.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by dauster

got it nice and congrats. really liking the ceramic sides but not enough to pay 50k :) do post pics when you get it.

Indeed. While it's not possible due to the case design (from what I'm told), I would like it more if it was full ceramic.

[kimwizzzuuu]

Originally Posted by dauster

got it nice and congrats. really liking the ceramic sides but not enough to pay 50k :) do post pics when you get it.

haha for sure I’ll post some pics when I have it. It’s not cheap but I feel like fuck it. Buy it while it’s still attainable, this might hype up the code line. Get ready in line for next year anniversary.

[NYG1121]

Wonder if the 38mm ROC are also getting the new movement? i would think it would be too thick

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by NYG1121

Wonder if the 38mm ROC are also getting the new movement? i would think it would be too thick

Maybe some day. For now, it's just the 41's.

[ksw]

Heard from an SA that the 15202PT is going to be ~150k, no idea how legit that info is...

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by ksw

Heard from an SA that the 15202PT is going to be ~150k, no idea how legit that info is...

It's CHF 90,150.

So on that note, I think it should display the USD price when it finally shows up on the website (if they go by past precedent -- where only >=100k CHF watches don't show a USD-converted price).

[Soondooboo]

Are the divers still really thick?

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by Soondooboo

Are the divers still really thick?

I don't think they changed the thickness on the divers.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by kimwizzzuuu

haha for sure I’ll post some pics when I have it. It’s not cheap but I feel like fuck it. Buy it while it’s still attainable, this might hype up the code line. Get ready in line for next year anniversary.

you might be right but who knows how long this crazy watch world will last... does anybody know if the boutiques have watches again or is it still empty?

[dauster]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

It's CHF 90,150.

So on that note, I think it should display the USD price when it finally shows up on the website (if they go by past precedent -- where only >=100k CHF watches don't show a USD-converted price).

might as well be $2 or $2m, I still would not get one allocated but one can drool over it... such a cool piece.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by dauster

you might be right but who knows how long this crazy watch world will last... does anybody know if the boutiques have watches again or is it still empty?

I think the hype machine pandora's box has been opened, and so the watch madness will remain for a long time (it just might change allegiances with respect to brands or models, but it's not going to "improve" in the sense that things will be less idiotic for us die hard collectors). :(

The only way I see it improving is for AP, Patek, Rolex, those folks, to adjust production to actually get closer to demand (i.e., where it might have been previously). Right now it's so heavily skewed away from where the demand is. I know the goal is to never *meet* the demand, but this is much further away from that metric than ever before.

Boutiques don't have stock, still, from what I've been told.

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by dauster

might as well be $2 or $2m, I still would not get one allocated but one can drool over it... such a cool piece.

A valid point.

That said, I think it's silly for it to be only drool-able despite being the same exact watch as the rest, just in a different metal (which, coincidentally is cheaper than gold) and a different color.

This isn't the same as the LaFerrari vs a 458 Italia discussion. This is a 458 in Green with some Carbon Fiber vs. a 458 in Red with no CF.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

A valid point.

That said, I think it's silly for it to be only drool-able despite being the same exact watch as the rest, just in a different metal (which, coincidentally is cheaper than gold) and a different color.

This isn't the same as the LaFerrari vs a 458 Italia discussion. This is a 458 in Green with some Carbon Fiber vs. a 458 in Red with no CF.

I am not a 100% certain but pretty sure that the LaFerrari doesn't come in a green that 458 Italia is not available in, right?

Kidding aside you have a point, but cost of raw material discussion is kind of pointless at this point. I thing somebody here wrote that its harder to make watches out of platinum than gold no?
where will this trade 200k out the gate or more ?

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by dauster

I am not a 100% certain but pretty sure that the LaFerrari doesn't come in a green that 458 Italia is not available in, right?

Kidding aside you have a point, but cost of raw material discussion is kind of pointless at this point. I thing somebody here wrote that its harder to make watches out of platinum than gold no?
where will this trade 200k out the gate or more ?

It's all pointless, indeed.

My point really is that it's barely a different watch, and the market goes berserk over it.

For this one, I'd wager the first grey to get their hands on one will list it at $300k, as yet another example of how watch collecting has become a lot less fun (to me) compared to barely 5 years ago.

It's "harder" to make anything out of Platinum vs. Gold, but the level of difficulty is negligible for a company like AP. If I was handmaking the case (like the Greubel Forsey Hand Made 1) then maybe I'd have a much harder time than if it was gold.

Level of difficulty doesn't mean much these days unless we're talking exotic materials like what RM does.

Plus, it's harder to polish a titanium case than it is to polish platinum.

But, my argument wasn't really about the cost of the metal, more than it's simply a slightly differently dressed up Ferrari 458, it's not an entirely different car.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

It's all pointless, indeed.

My point really is that it's barely a different watch, and the market goes berserk over it.

For this one, I'd wager the first grey to get their hands on one will list it at $300k, as yet another example of how watch collecting has become a lot less fun (to me) compared to barely 5 years ago.

It's "harder" to make anything out of Platinum vs. Gold, but the level of difficulty is negligible for a company like AP. If I was handmaking the case (like the Greubel Forsey Hand Made 1) then maybe I'd have a much harder time than if it was gold.

Level of difficulty doesn't mean much these days unless we're talking exotic materials like what RM does.

Plus, it's harder to polish a titanium case than it is to polish platinum.

But, my argument wasn't really about the cost of the metal, more than it's simply a slightly differently dressed up Ferrari 458, it's not an entirely different car.

100% agreed, but I guess most of APs line up is the same watch more or less in different dial/ metal variation. I truly like the watches a lot and I don't really mind the one trick pony concept because for me there is enough variety anyway but I am too frustrated over the lack of availability of anything really.

I have not really checked prices lately but I might be going grey for a really unique piece. But I would have to hit some kind of career milestone to "justify" spending 100k-150k on a watch. No amount of relationship/ schmoozing game I will ever qualify me for a tourbillion in titanium or some CE piece that I lust after.

[7sins]

LOVE the green tourbillion, looks great in both metals.

[GreenLantern]

I'm hoping everyone hates the Green, that way I can actually get some for a change.

Blue is so much nicer.

Blue is the way forward. Green is icky.

[dauster]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

I'm hoping everyone hates the Green, that way I can actually get some for a change.

Blue is so much nicer.

Blue is the way forward. Green is icky.

Green looks terrible indeed who would want that ????

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by dauster

Green looks terrible indeed who would want that ????

Green is often associated with sickly-ness.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.p...icklyGreenGlow

Why would any idiot want that on a watch dial?

[supersam80]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Maybe some day. For now, it's just the 41's.

Is this reported anywhere yet?

[GreenLantern]

Originally Posted by supersam80

Is this reported anywhere yet?

The 41's or the 38's?

[supersam80]

Sorry, the 41s