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22 November 2018, 03:59 PM | #31 |
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Mike Wood has already postd here, imo you should get in touch with Haywood Milton
https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=14127 To discuss the next steps Don‘t let Rolex do anything on the watch |
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There were a few 5513 HEV prototype with comex number on the back although nothing like OP’s. 5514 should have comex on the dial. To OP, the comex experts on these forum r jedly n Haywood Milton. Use the search function n send them both private messages to see if they respond. Hopefully both would comment on the forum so we can learn a thing or two. Unfortunately there was Another really awesome n very helpful expert in comex, Marcelo Pisani, but he passed away years ago. Presumably he has the list of all comex watches that was circulated. I blame it on autoconnect. |
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Now that I see the paper n serial number, I agree with mike wood that the dial hands n insert was replaced during service. It’s a pity, otherwise it’s really a nice piece of Rolex history. The value will likely take a hit because of this. I blame it on autoconnect. |
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I would leave it alone , Mike Wood has kindly commented it would be in the OPs interest to ask Both MW and Haywood Milton for valuations and how to proceed if its actually for sale
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22 November 2018, 08:28 PM | #37 | |
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I'm not convinced by this watch. The dial has no "Comex" value (though there are some original non-logo ones which might, for me), the case-back is unlike anything I've seen and the HEV doesn't look consistent with what I'd expect. Further images and detail required before excitement is justified. Haywood IG : haywood_milton_rolex
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22 November 2018, 09:57 PM | #38 | |
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If it's a genuine 5513 (and I'm not saying it is or isn't) then its value would be as that. Without provenance and the correct dial, this is just a Sub with sentimental value. |
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22 November 2018, 11:07 PM | #39 |
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Could we see the serial number and ref no on the Case this may help clarify some areas ?
Just remove the bracelet ? |
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_______________________________ Hi guys, Thank you all for your input, this is very helpful. I'm still unsure of how to proceed next, but I hope that will come with some more research. I did not had access to the watch for more than a week but I finally manage to get some pictures of under the bracelet (5514) and of some diving documentation (see attached). The document that was found is his diver log book. it records all the dives he made professionally. The dives he made for COMEX in their R&D division are sadly not logged in this as they were not paid by a client (that's the reason my mom remembers). In this was a certificate of competence from the AODC (Association of Diving Contractors). If you guys have more input on this, I would gladly appreciate it. If not, I'm glad I can share this story and I will keep this thread updated. Regards |
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Hopefully Haywood can help you out. You're sitting on something special. |
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4 December 2018, 11:35 AM | #42 | |
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So it's considered a 5514 Comex? pre-Comex? Considering it's pretty unique compared to what I can find on the market (Comex is either on the dial or stamped in the back), I have a hard time finding points of comparaison. And when you say "assuming everything checks out", what could pose problem? Thanks in advance. |
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I'm also by no means a Comex or 5514 expert to say what's what on your watch. The lack of a Comex dial and traditional Comex caseback engraving puts you in a unique category. You're likely north of a 5513 in value but south of a proper Comex 5514, but that's just a WAG on my part. |
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4 December 2018, 07:01 PM | #44 | |
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If you are able to remove the bracelet from the head of the watch, it will be possible to read the reference number and serial number from between the lugs (reference no. at 12 o'clock, serial number at 6 o'clock). I want the reference to be 5514...if it is not, I would have concerns. MW **And now confirmed** |
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I did remove the bracelet, and the numbers are as expected: 12 o'clock, same as the one on the Rolex "invoice" : 523XXXX (I can pm you the full number if you need). 6 o'clock, 5514 (see pic above, not super clear but it's 5514). What does that tell me regarding the watch? If I understand this correctly from your post and the ones before, it use to have a Comex dial, but was replaced with the non-comex dial that we have today? Or did it never had a comex dial? Thank you both for the input. Also, something I forgot to mention is that we're getting in contact with the divers that knew my uncle to see if we can have more info on the history of this watch. Some of them that have already sold their comex watch so it should be interesting. As I said, I will keep this post updated. |
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great thread......
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12 March 2019, 01:23 AM | #48 |
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Hi everybody,
Quick update on this thread since it's been a while. We're having a pretty hard time getting in contact with old pals of my uncle, that could possibly get us more info and possibly some documentation on this. A few of them are at sea for most of the year so pretty much impossible to contact, and others are living in very remote parts of France and Europe in general. I will keep this thread updated when I have more info. |
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Cool. Good Luck. Excited for the ending.
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