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hpowders · 11 April 2013, 03:05 AM

Wow! The photos don't do this watch justice! Went to Mayor's, a Rolex AD in Florida this morning. They had quite a Sub assortment. Tried on the 14060M dateless. My wrist never looked better! That is one stunning piece. Problem is they wouldn't budge off $7500. But they will double the Rolex warranty to 4 years, which is very nice.

Should I take a pass and look for a 5 year old mint, pre-owned example with recent service for at least $2000 less or is the $7500 "new" a decent price, given the 4 year warranty from the AD?

Thank you!

kultschar · 11 April 2013, 03:11 AM

They still sell it???? Surprised still in stock

111forza · 11 April 2013, 03:18 AM

Get on the phone now and reserve it they're nice very very nice

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 03:22 AM

Whoa! So you guys are telling me this watch is about to become obsolete?

datejust24 · 11 April 2013, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by hpowders

Whoa! So you guys are telling me this watch is about to become obsolete?

discontinued...replaced by the 114060...I personally like the classic 14060M better..

CDNWatchNut · 11 April 2013, 03:57 AM

Discontinued, but in no way obsolete.
At $7500 I would be looking for lightly pre-owned for under $5K, but if you prefer new and it's worth it to you , then it is.

tommyz24 · 11 April 2013, 04:00 AM

u can buy one here for about 5300$.....even if in a few years something breaks no way its going to cost 2grand

Tools · 11 April 2013, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by hpowders

Whoa! So you guys are telling me this watch is about to become obsolete?

The Sub will never be obsolete.. However, I thought that $7,500 was the price for the new ceramic bezel 114060 and so there is no reason for anybody to be selling the discontinued 14060M for that price.. especially not a Dealer...

For the money, I would go with the new ceramic 114060.. If you really, really want a 14060M, get one in the used market, mint, for 5 to 6K..

cop414 · 11 April 2013, 04:20 AM

Yes, discontinued last year. I put mine on lay away last summer for 6500.00 and picked it up for my retirement gift to myself this February. Is it worth it to you to pay the premium to get NIB still stickered, only you can say I guess. I like the fact that I can say that I purchased my first Rolex NIB from an AD.
Are you sure though that you're not talking about the newer 114060 and not the 14060? $7500.00 seems like it would be retail for the newer but who knows with AD's, a no date Sub no matter which variant might command the same price on the shelf?
In any event either is a great watch, here's a couple pics to make you drool.

BOA · 11 April 2013, 04:22 AM

I had always thought that an AD could only sell a discontinued model at the last list price before discontinuation. That's how I got my Sea Dweller. Rare as it was to find at the time, the AD sold it for the last listed retail, and I was glad to get it.

When the SS Daytonas were extremely hard to get some years ago, a dealer told me that used prices were higher than retail, and so he would sell them as used even though they were new. That way, he could get the higher amount.

I'm just going by some of what I've lived and seen. I don't know the rules, but the price they're asking for the 14060M seems high.

LA_LEC · 11 April 2013, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kultschar

They still sell it???? Surprised still in stock

That was my first thought. They are charging a premium since NIB are difficult to find. I think that's too high myself. As has been suggested, I would find a slightly used one in mint condition and save $1500. The extra years of warranty are not worth it since you are not likely to use that.

ecsub44 · 11 April 2013, 04:56 AM

I will recommend buying used. I like saving money.

aprasert · 11 April 2013, 04:56 AM

I would go preowned.

Passionata · 11 April 2013, 05:18 AM

For 6 k u still can get bnib here on trf

Best
George

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hpowders · 11 April 2013, 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Yes, discontinued last year. I put mine on lay away last summer for 6500.00 and picked it up for my retirement gift to myself this February. Is it worth it to you to pay the premium to get NIB still stickered, only you can say I guess. I like the fact that I can say that I purchased my first Rolex NIB from an AD.
Are you sure though that you're not talking about the newer 114060 and not the 14060? $7500.00 seems like it would be retail for the newer but who knows with AD's, a no date Sub no matter which variant might command the same price on the shelf?
In any event either is a great watch, here's a couple pics to make you drool.

Yes. That's the watch. The AD won't budge off $7500, but that's before I found out it's been discontinued. I wouldn't be surprised if the sales guy wasn't even aware of that fact. If he was, he should have dealt with me. How often does someone come in, seriously looking for a new Rolex?

yld2rob · 11 April 2013, 05:26 AM

Get the new one for that price

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 05:26 AM

Thanks for all the suggestions. I have a feeling the Mayors sales guy wasn't even aware it's been discontinued. He let me escape too easily when I asked him whether he could come down a bit on the price.

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tools

The Sub will never be obsolete.. However, I thought that $7,500 was the price for the new ceramic bezel 114060 and so there is no reason for anybody to be selling the discontinued 14060M for that price.. especially not a Dealer...

For the money, I would go with the new ceramic 114060.. If you really, really want a 14060M, get one in the used market, mint, for 5 to 6K..

You know, I have to ask the dealer. I just assumed it was the 14060M.

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hpowders

Wow! The photos don't do this watch justice! Went to Mayor's, a Rolex AD in Florida this morning. They had quite a Sub assortment. Tried on the 14060M dateless. My wrist never looked better! That is one stunning piece. Problem is they wouldn't budge off $7500. But they will double the Rolex warranty to 4 years, which is very nice.

Should I take a pass and look for a 5 year old mint, pre-owned example with recent service for at least $2000 less or is the $7500 "new" a decent price, given the 4 year warranty from the AD?

Thank you!

UPDATE: It's NOT the 14060M!!! It's the new 114060 dateless Sub. To my eyes, it looked spectacular! $7500. 4 years of warranty.

cop414 · 11 April 2013, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hpowders

UPDATE: It's NOT the 14060M!!! It's the new 114060 dateless Sub. To my eyes, it looked spectacular! $7500. 4 years of warranty.

Now that's a different story, I think that is the retail, someone here will correct me if I'm wrong. I feel that all the variants of the Sub are great watches. You might be able to get it cheaper though if you shop around. No need to jump on the first one that you see since the model that you're looking at is a current one.

TSW · 11 April 2013, 05:53 AM

Modern classic!

submariner66 · 11 April 2013, 06:00 AM

I bought a 14060M from an AD last October for list $6,300. I thought too that they could only sell up to list price?

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Now that's a different story, I think that is the retail, someone here will correct me if I'm wrong. I feel that all the variants of the Sub are great watches. You might be able to get it cheaper though if you shop around. No need to jump on the first one that you see since the model that you're looking at is a current one.

Yes. $7500 is list price and they refuse to come down. The AD is close to my house, with a 4 year warranty. Is that worth $400 in haggling?

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cop414

Now that's a different story, I think that is the retail, someone here will correct me if I'm wrong. I feel that all the variants of the Sub are great watches. You might be able to get it cheaper though if you shop around. No need to jump on the first one that you see since the model that you're looking at is a current one.

The watch was stunning. The most beautiful black I have ever seen!

NYCrussino · 11 April 2013, 06:05 AM

$7,500 is way over priced. Would get the the Ceramic bezel if you were looking to spend that. Or save 2-3k and get a 14060M here

LA_LEC · 11 April 2013, 06:05 AM

This entire thread was based on the premise of the other watch.

So now there is a change in direction but still the same advice.

FORGET the AD and get it here on the forum for less either way!

NYCrussino · 11 April 2013, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hpowders

UPDATE: It's NOT the 14060M!!! It's the new 114060 dateless Sub. To my eyes, it looked spectacular! $7500. 4 years of warranty.

Whoops. Didn't catch the update before my last post. Thats about the suggested retail price. 4 Year warranty is definitely a plus.

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by LA_LEC

This entire thread was based on the premise of the other watch.

So now there is a change in direction but still the same advice.

FORGET the AD and get it here on the forum for less either way!

Sorry about that! My bad!

hpowders · 11 April 2013, 06:40 AM

Okay, folks. How much is an AD 4 year warranty worth vs the standard 2 year warranty? Is $7500, list price with 4 year AD warranty a better deal than $7100 with 2 year standard warranty?

mbkmbk · 11 April 2013, 06:59 AM

I would go with a new one from the FS section. Even if you have to service it in the next four years (which you probably won't), it won't cost anywhere close to the $2500 premium.

11 April 2013, 03:05 AM	#1
hpowders "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Tampa, Fl Watch: Rolex 114060 Posts: 313	Sub 14060M: First Time In Person! Wow! The photos don't do this watch justice! Went to Mayor's, a Rolex AD in Florida this morning. They had quite a Sub assortment. Tried on the 14060M dateless. My wrist never looked better! That is one stunning piece. Problem is they wouldn't budge off $7500. But they will double the Rolex warranty to 4 years, which is very nice. Should I take a pass and look for a 5 year old mint, pre-owned example with recent service for at least $2000 less or is the $7500 "new" a decent price, given the 4 year warranty from the AD? Thank you!

11 April 2013, 04:56 AM	#12
ecsub44 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: US Watch: Sub Posts: 3,175	I will recommend buying used. I like saving money. __________________ *侘寂 -- wabi-sabi --* acceptance of transience and imperfection by finding beauty in that which is imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete Commissioner of WEIRD POLICE , Badge # ecsub44

11 April 2013, 05:18 AM	#14
Passionata "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: N/A Watch: the girls Posts: 7,095	For 6 k u still can get bnib here on trf Best George Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD __________________ Best George "Also remember that feet don't get fat and a watch will always speak volumes." Robert Johnston --------------------- newhttps://youtu.be/EljAF-uddhE new http://youtu.be/ZmpLoO1Q8eQ IG @passionata1

11 April 2013, 05:26 AM	#16
yld2rob "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Rob Location: Penna Watch: Rolex Posts: 1,656	Get the new one for that price __________________ Rolex Sub-126610LV Rolex Sub- 126613LB Rolex GMT BLRO 126710 Rolex GMT BLNR Rolex Datejust 16220

11 April 2013, 05:53 AM	#21
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Modern classic! __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

11 April 2013, 03:11 AM	#2
kultschar "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: End of the World Watch: PP & Rolex Posts: 1,970	They still sell it???? Surprised still in stock

11 April 2013, 03:22 AM	#4
hpowders "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Tampa, Fl Watch: Rolex 114060 Posts: 313	Whoa! So you guys are telling me this watch is about to become obsolete?

11 April 2013, 03:57 AM	#6
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	Discontinued, but in no way obsolete. At $7500 I would be looking for lightly pre-owned for under $5K, but if you prefer new and it's worth it to you , then it is.

11 April 2013, 04:00 AM	#7
tommyz24 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 388	u can buy one here for about 5300$.....even if in a few years something breaks no way its going to cost 2grand

11 April 2013, 04:22 AM	#10
BOA "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Bruce Location: Chicago, IL Watch: Meteorite DD Posts: 2,151	I had always thought that an AD could only sell a discontinued model at the last list price before discontinuation. That's how I got my Sea Dweller. Rare as it was to find at the time, the AD sold it for the last listed retail, and I was glad to get it. When the SS Daytonas were extremely hard to get some years ago, a dealer told me that used prices were higher than retail, and so he would sell them as used even though they were new. That way, he could get the higher amount. I'm just going by some of what I've lived and seen. I don't know the rules, but the price they're asking for the 14060M seems high.

11 April 2013, 04:56 AM	#13
aprasert "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 182	I would go preowned.

11 April 2013, 06:00 AM	#22
submariner66 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: John Location: New York Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,138	I bought a 14060M from an AD last October for list $6,300. I thought too that they could only sell up to list price?

11 April 2013, 06:05 AM	#25
NYCrussino "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: NYC Watch: 16610 Posts: 214	$7,500 is way over priced. Would get the the Ceramic bezel if you were looking to spend that. Or save 2-3k and get a 14060M here

11 April 2013, 06:05 AM	#26
LA_LEC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Los Angeles Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,785	This entire thread was based on the premise of the other watch. So now there is a change in direction but still the same advice. FORGET the AD and get it here on the forum for less either way! __________________ 16610 ♛ 16610LV ♛ 214270 MK2 "Life is far too short not to wear a Rolex!"

11 April 2013, 06:40 AM	#29
hpowders "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Tampa, Fl Watch: Rolex 114060 Posts: 313	Okay, folks. How much is an AD 4 year warranty worth vs the standard 2 year warranty? Is $7500, list price with 4 year AD warranty a better deal than $7100 with 2 year standard warranty?

11 April 2013, 06:59 AM	#30
mbkmbk "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 196	I would go with a new one from the FS section. Even if you have to service it in the next four years (which you probably won't), it won't cost anywhere close to the $2500 premium.

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